Worst Drummers
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Topic: Worst Drummers
Posted By: geneyesontle
Subject: Worst Drummers
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 14:32
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I did not included Ringo and Nick Mason because I think they are good. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 14:39
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Ha, I was going to write in Meg White before I even saw that she was an option in the poll.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 14:43
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Moved to General Music Discussions as this poll is not specifically about drummers of Prog bands.
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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 14:45
Perfect. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Logan wrote:Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 14:58
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I would go for Jet Black as he came across as quite lazy at a time when there were some exciting punk drummers like Rat Scabies and the guy in the Buzzcocks.That said I do like the Stranglers thanks to Greenfield and Jean Jacques Burnel. |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 15:09
I lol'd so hard at the Shaggs, was that supposed to be serious! Worst drumming I've ever heard.
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 15:15
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Well after listening for 2 minutes (2 minutes I'll never get back) to My Pal Foot Foot by The Shaggs I had to vote for them. That would also go under Worst Guitarist and Worst Vocalist. ------------- Check out my FREE album: A one-man project The Distant Dynasty |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 15:15
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Lars is a great drummer. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 15:22
Love My Pal Foot Foot, Love The Shaggs. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 15:23
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All mentioned i agree. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:05
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Other.............Ringo Starr ------------- 
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:09
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:09
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:16
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Meg White. To be honest I was never sure what the point of the White Stripes was. I just didn't get it.
Simon King from Hawkwind should probably be on the list. He's pretty bad, certainly when compared to other prog drummers. Lars Ulrich? Really? I always thought he was pretty good. Not the best in his field, I guess, but certainly no light weight. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:18
Listen to this :There are a lot of better drummers of his genre. Like Him: ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:25
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^you are sad ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:27
Nevertheless best world's drummers are happy to serve up drumsticks for him.  Because he was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. And because he is Ringo.------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:31
He was very lucky. -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:32
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Ringo wasn't so bad. Pretty good actually. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:34
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When Ringo went solo, his SOLO stuff was pretty good! And, he's kinda just the typical drummer (especially for the 60's) but that doesn't make him bad! Definitely not the worst.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:47
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^"And you know, it don't come easy"-great song, actually I would nominate Other- Dave Holland in Judas Priest, very unimaginative (his playing in Trapeze was better, though) |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:48
Whaa??? Where is he horrendous? Nobody saying he's some technical phenom, but the guy had some cool fills and kept time. Plus, he wrote Octopus' Garden which is better than like 90% of songs written. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:48
I don't think he's bad either. He doesn't do anything fancy, but he's solid at what he does. His voice doesn't have much range, but is pleasant enough. How can you dislike his songwriting? Octopus' Garden? Awesome. -------------
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:53
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Of this list Lars. But as bad as he is I'm sure there are worse. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 16:56
No Simon King should not be on this list
 And neither should Ringo. Although Octopusies Garden isn't all that good he can drum pretty well ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 17:51
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Meg White isn't a bad drummer. Her style is works great with their type of music. And Ulrich isn't bad either. He's a cock, but he's not a bad drummer. I haven't listened to the others enough to say anything. I don't like Kiss though.
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 17:57
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Like all of the Beatles, Ringo has little technical skill. And like the rest of the Beatles, he made the most out of it. Every single performance of his is spot-on, and several of them are intriguing in their own right (Come Together comes to mind). Of course he shouldn't be considered among the best drummers in history - too little of his work is remarkable - but he certainly doesn't belong among the worst either. For what it's worth, I prefer him over Charlie Watts. I think a lot of the Ringo bashing comes from the fact that he played simple, generic rhythms in a lot of songs that didn't need anything more. Not every instrumentalist has to stand out in every song. Lars Ulrich is extremely limited and I don't like a lot of what he plays. His drumming is so stiff and heavy-handed that is sounds like a dead weight that pulls the music down. Thrash metal is fast by nature, and with speed always come some kind of lightness and agility. Lars Ulrich lacks that. Yet, I wouldn't call him one of the worst drummers either. Meg White is just a gimmick, really. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 18:06
Lars is not great, whatever. But the minute I see a youtube movie clip of a band practice with some poser youtuber packing it with idiotic notations like he/she/it has somehow done something more useful in their life, the argument and all credibility is lost. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 18:13
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I think Ringo was a great drummer. Lars too. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 18:21
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Fortunately, I don't know any of these. So, I'm going to give an, uh, sympathy vote for Criss as he's currently at zero. The poll reminded me of the joke - What do you call someone who likes to hang out with musicians?  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 18:50
The story of the Shaggs is actually kind of fascinating. Their dad was a bit of a wackjob, and he had a dream that his daughters were going to have a band and be the biggest band in the world, so he took them out of school and forced them to play instruments that they didn't have the first clue how to play. Then he hauled them into a studio to record their album. The guy who ran the studio said maybe they should learn how to play first, but dear ole dad was having none of it - wanted to capture them "while they're hot". Still, there's a certain primitivist charm there..... ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 19:22
| The Shaggs are unbelievable. Not because their music is any good, but because everything about them is literally hard to believe. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 21:33
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Alan White Ginger Baker
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 21:42
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Ringo's a great f**king drummer. I'm somewhat upset. I'll vote for whoever the drummer was on Agalloch's The Mantle. There either wasn't a click or the drummer just drags the beat and no one cared. It's atrocious. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 22:41
Octopus's Garden is the one moment of pseudo-brilliance in an otherwise weak songwriting career. Have you ever seen in tv ir live a performance of his own band? His music is rock that can't be any more generic and plain. His lyrics are poor too. Lars Ulrich is in pure technique quite atrocious but he has come up with some really good drumming for what the band needed from him. Obviously, if they try to make him play outside of his metal comfort sone he'll suffer. Mike Pointer should be on the list. Nowadays he finally learned how to make fills that don't sound cut in the middle. He's still mediocre at best though. Now of course worst drummer will always be one who can't even keep time properly. And few bands that record commercial albums will dare employ one of those. -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 22:42
I agree with Agalloch. I forgot to mention it. In the most recent albums he has improved but The Mantle is just quite atrocious in drumming. -------------
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 22:56
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I always thought Mick Fleetwood was a hack. Can he play in anything other than 4/4? Does he know what polyrhythms are? Has he even heard a jazz record in his life? That guy also plays with his mouth open. I'm surprised he hasn't choked on a fly yet. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 23:00
Whoa, whoa! I didn't realize people actually like that stuff... do they?
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 01:43
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Posted By: freudiana
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 02:09
| Mick Pointer |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 02:46
And nobody's mentioned Charlie Watts?
With regard to Mrs. Maureen Tucker from The Velvet Underground ... ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:00
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Don Henley, i saw live clip of him with a bit of exitment that he also was the drummer in Eagles, but he played stiff and forced, so i had a hard time to beleve it was the same guy who played some nice drumming in the 70s. he looked unconfortable behind the kit, and looked like a newbie though he have probably been playing since the 60s
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:20
John Haughm (the guitarist and vocalist) used to play the drums on the albums, but they got an actual drummer for the newest one.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:26
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I once heard a recording of Stevie Wonder playing drums with Lennon&McCartney... it wasn't good |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:42
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Stevie Wonder is one of Brann Dailors two most important influences as a drummer
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 03:47
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Nick Mason. No he is not good. ------------- 
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 04:04
That's kinda sad, but adds to their music in a way. Surprised I've never heard of the band. well, to an extent, they got their name out!! In any shape or form! Thanks for writing all that out! Definitely an interesting read! ------------- Check out my FREE album: A one-man project The Distant Dynasty |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 04:45
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I'd take a lot of the mentioned drummers over a guy like Cobham. A man that personifies the whole notion of feel over technique, albeit the wrong way around. There is no denying that he sports just about the biggest chops inside the world of drumming - let's face it, he probably has a brain for every finger. He can do the most out there impossible rhythms and whatnot, but he lacks one fundamental ingredient imho and that is laying back and supporting the music around him. He always has to complicate things unnecessary throwing fills into the music like a never-ending machine. I much prefer the guy that stepped in for him in Mahavishnu, that Walden dude. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 05:20
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Peter Criss on the list is baffling,he's a pretty good drummer. Lars Ulrich without a seconds thought.Not onl;y can he not play worth a sh*t,but his drum sound horrible(Saint Anger anyone?) -------------  |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 06:37
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What are we talking here? Technical ability? Skill? Time-keeping? Most of the drummers mentioned are right for the bands they are in - I don't like Ulrich's drumming, but it's right for Metallica (not saying that someone like Slayer's Lombardo wouldn't have been better, but Hetfield and Hammett aren't Hanneman and King either) - Mason's drumming is right for Floyd and Starr was right for the Beatles (can you imagine The Beatles with Keef Moon on drums?) - White Stripes lo-fi approach prolly couldn't handle a better drummer (I'm guessing - I dislike White Stripes with a passion, but I can't imagine Portnoy bring much to the mix if he joined the White Stripes). Tommy Lee - he's not that good. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 07:27
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^Do we ever know what we're talking about Dean? ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 07:45
Hey, what did you think of his first solo album? He's a little more laid back there ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 07:51
I don't own Spectrum actually, but I'd like to hear it. That post of mine was really just about highlighting the same thing as Dean did, even if he did so more elegantly and without the confusing bits. Because what constitutes a bad drummer or a good one for that matter? He does have his moments on the debut, and I acknowledge that in full, after all I am a drummer myself, - but generally I think he does too much in too little time most of the time, if that makes any sort of sense  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 07:55
What do you think of Furio Chirico? ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 08:01
Yeah, makes total sense, absolutely 'Good' and 'bad' are troublesome terms sometimes.Definitely check it out if you come across it, he relaxes a lot in terms of the fills, and lets more funk in on Spectrum. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 08:01
Heheh I know where you're going with this, but I do find his style of playing much more in tune with what is happening around him. -Even if he probably takes the cake as the most busy drummer of the lot ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 08:03
Will do - thanks for the heads up I've actually thought about getting the album numerous of times, but somehow always found another album instead. Now he's on the 'genuine' list ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 11:21
| Dave Holland. He's not suitable for JP either, let alone pure skills. Les Binks and Scott Travis did a much better job than him. Holland was bad enough to make drum machines sound warm and human. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 13:57
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Mick Pointer is the reason why I don't like Jester as much as much as I like the other Fish albums. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 16:40
Everything that you mentioned here Dean. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 16:54
And what about Doktor Avalanche? ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 17:01
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The Drummers from Guns and Roses and The Doors
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 17:07
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^ What? Jon Densmore is just about the greatest 60s drummer ever. Up there with Bonham and Moon imo. While his kit was sparse, he utilised it to the fullest. Fantastic percussionist as well.
Oh well tastes differ eh? ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: mongofa
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 17:54
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 18:01
I guess not. I just couldn't hear whatever it was that won them such critical acclaim. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 18:07
He's not that bad on this song : ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 18:08
Besides bringing garage rock/blues back into the limelight with great songs and a great guitarist? Jack White also has a very distinct tone. Very raw and energetic. Like he is torturing his guitar, and I really like. ------------- 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 18:13
Agreed. Touch Me is up there with Mitch Mitchell's Fire for my favorite 60's drum performances. Simply grand. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 18:19
This will make you change your mind : He was also with Tori Amos in her band Y Kant Tori Read, nothing spectacular but he shared drums with...Vinnie Colaiuta ! ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 18:27
that may be, but try to imagine the sound of a blind man playing drums with sighted players-- it sounds just like a blind man playing drums with sighted players. |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 18:37
I would disagree with you that he isn't a good drummer. -------------
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 19:10
| That girl in The Fresh Beat Band on Nick Jr. Easy on the eyes but can't play a thing. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 20:27
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Another vote foe Mick Pointer. His drumming hasn't changed or evolved since the first Marillion album. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 20:37
I will! Cannot stand the stoned , oops Stones, sorry.... Charlie Watts is a lazy drummer, at best a time keeper but there is no zeal in his machine-like attitude. Some fans think he is great ? = Good for you!  Simon King , on the other hand , has a simple driving style that suits Hawkwind to a T. Seen him live with Alan Powell, and the 2 drummers drumming was hypnotic. I remember not being able to get it out of my mind and my body for a week, at least! ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 20:49
Yeah, yeah, say that again: Blind man playing drums with sighted players, indeed. Playing better than some of them like aforementioned Holland at that. As they say, never BLINDLY judge a book by its cover.  |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 20:59
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^ but that's a drum solo-- anyway, I love Stevie but I know what I heard and it was funny, so don't get your panties in a bunch |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 21:00
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Lol Tolhurst almost single-handedly ruined Seventeen Seconds.
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 22:35
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Highly tempted to go with Maureen Tucker from the Velvet Underground. Not necessarily for her drumming itself, but the reason behind it. I might be misinterpreting this, but there was an interview she did that was printed in The Velvet Underground Companion where she stated to the effect that drummers should stay in the background. I can understand if the music was arranged for such a style or if she was referring to guys doing 10+ minute drum solos, however I can't see the works of groups like, say, King Crimson circa 1972-1974 benefiting from a restrained manner of drumming. Not helped that the one instance in the Velvet's catalog that could have benefited for a bit of drumming excess ("European Son") is rendered a low point in my book thanks to the drumming. In a sense, I see Maureen Tucker as the polar opposite of Led Zeppelin's John Bonham in terms of drumming extremes. If Bonham was responsible for "destroying any sense of dynamics in three generations worth of drummers" - to quote Tarkus1980's brother - then Tucker was just as responsible for unnecessarily straitjacketing the craft, at least when it comes to what critics consider to be good drumming. But that's just me. Once again, I might be misinterpreting that interview. ------------- He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball! |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 22:50
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As much as I love the Velvet Underground, I have to agree that Mo Tucker is not a very good drummer.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 22:53
Let's see...Gavin Harrison, Neil Peart, Phil Collins, Alan White, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer...oh wait...wrong poll! Oops....
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 23:21
Not bad- I guess I'm referring to their studio recordings- always felt like he played SUCH weak breaks- and never had ANY variety- Stuido recordings that is... ------------- |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: August 16 2012 at 23:33
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Pete wasn't best, and I think Ringo was a damn solid drummer. It is not all about fills and poly-rhythms. A drummer drives the band; Pete Best just could not provide the drive the Beatles needed to excell. A bad drummer, or even a mediocre one, can impede a band's success as a band (I am not talking about commercialism here), but a good drummer provides propulsion. Ringo did that. Lars does that, and so did Peter Kriss when he was a member of Kiss. As Dean said, they all fit their bands. I have mixed views about Charlie Watts - he keeps the Stones going during a song, which is a good thing, but I do agree that he is rather mechanistic and severely limited. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 01:54
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 01:56
| Ringo Starr was quite obviously a proficient drummer. You couldn't be playing that music and not be. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 02:21
| I don't know if this has been mentioned but I always thought Ray Phillips's druming on Budgie's Never Turn Your Back...is just awful. Breadfan is a classic song from that album and it could be so much more with the right drummer, instead of leading the song the drums are dragging behind, I hate when that happens. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 04:04
Apparently Robert Smith taught Lol to play, and by his own admission Smith can't play the drums. The songs were good back then though. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 04:06
Sorry, they just didn't do it for me. I preferred the Dead Weather. I agree Jack is a good guitarist. I'm just not much of a blues fan. It's not a crime. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 04:15
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 06:48
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 07:41
Excuse me, but you made a highly objectionable generalized statement about the capabilities of blind musicians and I called you on it, so there's no need to make such insinuations. That you did suggests perhaps that my comment hit home and hit a raw nerve while it did.
At least as a longtime member of this forum, you should be more graceful in accepting your mistake. How on earth can you be sure that a blind drummer would sound out of place playing with sighted drummers? There must be something terribly wrong if you cannot see how closed minded and prejudiced your statement is.
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Posted By: Johnnytuba
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 08:38
Agreed! He shouldn't even be on this list. ------------- "The things that we're concealing, will never let us grow. Time will do its healing, you've got to let it go. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 09:41
That's a great album in my opinion. But indeed drums are not the highllight here, you could obtain the same effect with a drum machine. But the music aimed to be "cold" from this album on, so maybe that was the effect sought after. Lol's drumming improved a lot on 'faith' and 'pornography'. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 12:43
Who would be the best instrumentalist there? Harrison? -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 12:55
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what is peoples opinions about Phil Rudds drumming?? is it good or bad
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 12:59
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 13:17
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A lot of the drummers on this list shouldn't be here, in my opinion. Lars? Really? I mean, I'm not big on Metallica at all, I used to be, but Lars is actually a pretty decent drummer and he perfectly suits Metallica (as stated before). As I remembered though, he created some pretty powerhouse thrash beats and he was surely promoted the now famous double bass foot technique to legions of young drummers. I can understand not liking his style, but he's actually quite technically proficient and an important drummer in the history of rock. One of drummer that comes to mind as being a bit stale and dull, is Mick Pointer. I've only heard a couple of Arena songs, so I can't really fully judge for his work in that band, but I don't like him on the first Marillion album at all - No substance to his playing. All subjective of course.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 13:19
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From the list though, The Shaggs. Oh god.
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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 13:24
Mick Pointer is the Nick Mason of Neo-prog. -------------
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 14:00
So basically if you're not a Jazz or prog drummer your not very good? -------------
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 14:03
Well I think he used to be pretty good, but he isn't too great now methinks. He is the Ringo Starr or thrash. Many hate him and think he sucks, but he really isn't a bad drummer. -------------
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