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Logged in after a few months offline because of this. Absolutely gutted to see this news. Rush hasn't been on my listen list for a little while, but I'll be sure to spin the whole discography this weekend. The influence that man had on this genre is immeasurable... a legend was lost yesterday. 
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Immensely saddened by the news of the passing of Neil Elwood Peart.
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Just saw this......RIP Mr Peart, and condolences to his family.

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He was technically brilliant but for several reasons not my cup of tea. R.I.P.


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I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat

Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).


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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

RIP another prog legend gone far, far too soon!

I imagine he and Chris Squire are putting together a record we've never had the Earthly pleasure of hearing.
 

My favourite bass player and my favourite drummer. Could have been great indeed (though I think that Geddy Lee was strongly influenced by Squire's bass playing). When I read the news, I had to think of Chris Squire as well: both lived to the same age: Neil Peart lived only two days longer than Chris Squire.


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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

RIP another prog legend gone far, far too soon!

I imagine he and Chris Squire are putting together a record we've never had the Earthly pleasure of hearing.

Hell yeah haha Big smile
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Neil Peart himself on his tenderest memories growing up in Ontario:

(better use the browser's reading mode).

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/transcripts/19940624stcatharinesstandard.htm


Having myself grown up in the 80-90's, I marvel at how it was to grow up in the 50-60's, and I've always have it deeply connected with progressive rock and other awesome things that came in the 70's.



Rest in peace Neil P.


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This actually affected me, in a way I never thought the death of someone I didn't know, could.

I spent all day Saturday - after hearing the news - and Sunday morning, in London with my girlfriend. We'd seen a show and done some sight seeing, and we'd both been looking forward to it for a while. But, I actually struggled to park this bad news about Neil Peart to one side for the duration. In recent years, we've seen Chris Squire, Lemmy, Bowie, Emerson and Lake among others pass away, and although I'm always saddened by these things, the passing of a Rush member is quite a big deal for me. Rush were the band that really got me into prog rock. The first band I obsessed over and Neil himself a true inspiration to me as a drummer.

For two nights running now, I've heard Rush songs playing in my dreams (or rather dreamy variations on them) Last night it was fragments of Ghost of a Chance, and the night before, Subdivisions.

A very sad day for rock music. An absolute tragedy for Neil's family, and for Lee and Lifeson. RIP NP.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat

Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).
I'm afraid that Rush without Peart would have been spelled with a lower case r.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat

Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).


Now how do you know that? My guess they would've jumped on  the commercial bandwagon. While we'll never know for sure, i'd bet that whatever would've happened that it would have been inferior to what Rush accomplished with Peart on the team.

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In case you've forgotten, this is a RIP thread - meaning someone (who happened to be a husband and father, among other things) died, and well before his time. I believe you can discuss what Rush would have done with a different drummer in another thread. Same goes for stating that you didn't like his style or his music. There is a time and a place for everything.
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^ Right on raff. You must keep micky well balanced. Wink
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

In case you've forgotten, this is a RIP thread - meaning someone (who happened to be a husband and father, among other things) died, and well before his time. I believe you can discuss what Rush would have done with a different drummer in another thread. Same goes for stating that you didn't like his style or his music. There is a time and a place for everything.


So why can't an RIP thread also be a tribute to someone's greatness? My way of expressing our collective loss is by reminding the community that a band like Rush was made great by Mr Neil Peart. In other words it's an expression of extreme gratitude that he joined the band and steered them into the beautiful music that they created. I agree that we shouldn't dwell on those thing here but a comment or two is worthy me thinks Wink

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat

Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).


Now how do you know that? My guess they would've jumped on  the commercial bandwagon. While we'll never know for sure, i'd bet that whatever would've happened that it would have been inferior to what Rush accomplished with Peart on the team.
 
The only thing we know for sure is that without Peart, Rush would have not been the Rush we know now, and that in an of itself is quite a major statement.  Peart was more than one third of the band.  Not only was he the drummer, but the main lyricist.  A lesser lyricist would have not required such complex music to express his words.  So, yes, Rush probably would have been inferior to the Rush we know.  Peart will be missed.
 
 
 

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat

Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).


Now how do you know that? My guess they would've jumped on  the commercial bandwagon. While we'll never know for sure, i'd bet that whatever would've happened that it would have been inferior to what Rush accomplished with Peart on the team.

I know that because I have heard interviews with Geddy and read online (and in a Rush biography)that he and Alex were big into prog rock(yes before Rutsey left). In fact one reason John Rutsey left is because he was disinterested in the direction they were going in(his diabetes was also a big factor but not the only one). It's pretty well documented that Rush were heading in a more progressive direction before Rutsey left. Peart didn't really have much to do with the music so it's not like he had much of an influence on that anyway other than the lyrics.

Inferior maybe but it's folly to assume they would have sounded like Bad Company or Foghat just because they didn't have Neil. In fact it's highly unlikely the music itself would have been that different since like I said Alex and Geddy wrote the actual music(just probably with inferior drumming and lyrics. ;) ).


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2020 at 10:34
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

In case you've forgotten, this is a RIP thread - meaning someone (who happened to be a husband and father, among other things) died, and well before his time. I believe you can discuss what Rush would have done with a different drummer in another thread. Same goes for stating that you didn't like his style or his music. There is a time and a place for everything.


So why can't an RIP thread also be a tribute to someone's greatness? My way of expressing our collective loss is by reminding the community that a band like Rush was made great by Mr Neil Peart. In other words it's an expression of extreme gratitude that he joined the band and steered them into the beautiful music that they created. I agree that we shouldn't dwell on those thing here but a comment or two is worthy me thinks Wink
I think that AFlowerKingCrimson's (what a name! Confused) post came off as sounding like Neil wasn't that important to the group and I'm sure that's not what he meant, but we reacted to it instead of just praising the man. If that's what raff objected to than I think she's right. We can debate elsewhere.

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