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Topic: RIP Neil PeartPosted By: RaphaelT
Subject: RIP Neil Peart
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 14:24
Replies: Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 14:32
Wow, so sad news, hes power will be missed :'(
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 14:38
Worst day ever. RIP.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 14:42
An absolute prog giant. He will be sorely missed by everyone. RIP.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 14:43
Is this for real?
I'm at a loss for words. I can't believe it.
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 14:54
Absolutely stunned and heartbroken. Neil has been a part of my life ever since I took my All The World's A Stage gatefold album into school to show all my mates the great band I had just discovered. After the family tragedies he suffered, it is so sad he can't enjoy the retired life he fully deserved. 😥
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 14:57
Horrible news, my head dropped and I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw the headline.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 15:08
Repose en paix, cher professeur.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 15:18
This is extremely sad news. He was simply the best drummer I've ever seen and, whilst I did not agree with his political outlook, his lyrics were magnificent.
RIP. The prog world is a much poorer place for his passing.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 15:23
Such devastatingly sad news.
RIP Neil Elwood Peart. A giant of a man in every sense.
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 15:35
My first music purchase was Rush Archives in high school circa 1983 and they were my first favorite band. The guy was a giant who took his craft seriously and never settled. RIP
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 15:51
Very, very sad news. Rush was my first band I saw live in 1980 on the PeW tour. RIP sir.
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:13
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:16
Sad news... one of my favorite drummers !!!
Thank you new and RIP !!!
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:37
F#@K YOU CANCER !!!!!
RIP brother.
My only consolation is he is now with his wife and daughter.
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Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:41
Shocking news! I just heard.
There will likely be some great tributes in the coming weeks.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:48
I guess I was out of the loop, this has seemingly come out of left field to me. Very sad to read.
RIP
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:48
Very sad news. RIP Neil.
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:50
The absolute Master of drumming is gone......OMG I have read the notice over and over to make sure I am seeing this correctly. May he Rest In Peace and God bless his wife and daughter.
May my avatar live forever.... :(
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:55
Tony R wrote:
Such devastatingly sad news.
RIP Neil Elwood Peart. A giant of a man in every sense.
Nice to see you back here.
Too bad it's on such a sad occasion....
A whole side of my teen life just went away
RIP Neil
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 17:02
A legend. RIP.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 17:13
I'm beyond heartbroken 😭😭😭😭💔💔
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 17:16
Had the most weird experience today--was at gym this afternoon and for the first time in months was playing my Rush playlist---when a CNN news alert popped up on my phone with this sad news. Another legendary player dies. Very sad. RIP Neil.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 17:23
Damn shame. Cancer sucks, RIP Neil.
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Posted By: fronobulax
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 17:31
As a proud Canadian, I am sitting here listening to "A Farewell to Kings" on the vinyl I bought in 75, in stunned shock at the passing of Neil Peart.
If you read this, please post your favourite Neil memory, feeling, drum break, etc...
A legend, and an era, have passed.
"Natural Science"
Wheels within wheels in a spiral array A pattern so grand and complex Time after time we lose sight of the way Our causes can't see their effects
RIP Neil
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 17:33
Very sad news. I hadn't heard about his illness.
Shocked and saddened
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 17:33
Oh that's so sad, and a huge loss.
Go well, Neil, and play like an angel.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 17:50
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Posted By: Prog&Math
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:02
I just registered to ProgArchives after 7 years of surfing just to grieve Neil's passing away. When I heard the news and thought of meaningful lyrics from Neil, I thought the same ones that fronobulax posted. The other ones I thought about followed me all my teen years:
you can't have, something for nothing
you can't have, freedom for free
you won't get wise with the sleep still in your eyes
no matter what your dreams might be.
RIP Neil Peart
Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:18
I will forever love you for the joy you have brought me and the inspiration, If there are angels in Heaven I'm sure you will be one of them.
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:22
I just cannot believe he is gone.....playing his music and reading his lyrics just is not going to do it right now. This is going to take a long time to soak in.
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:26
Devastating news. Another one of my musical heroes gone much too soon. Sadly, it was exactly four years ago today that I learned of the departure of another musical hero of mine (Bowie). At least I was fortunate enough to see Rush live several times. There is no drummer out there who matched his ability. And few could touch him as far as lyrics go either. Rest in Peace sir and thank you for all the great music.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:26
RIP
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:30
RIP to one of the best drummers and lyricists of all time. Its a sad day for us all. Neil Peart will be sorely missed, but if there is a great rock band in the sky, they have only gotten eternally better with his passing. We love you Neil!
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:31
He has passed far too soon. He shall be missed by many.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:39
I was in the grocery store when I heard it over the speakers. I just about broke down in the aisle, but then they played some Rush and I felt better. They announced it on CNN also. His influence is everywhere even if he is gone. We'll miss you Neil!
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 18:53
A bad week just got worse.
RIP Professor. You will be sorely missed. :-(
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 19:28
In memory of Neil Peart.
"Circumstances, lost in circumstances.
The points and the lines in convergence.
It makes us what we are.
A teller of tales, the wind in the sails.
His pen as his sword, the power of word.
The man within the star".
With love from me and my household.
Thank you Neil.
Exit stage left and perhaps enter another one to dream a new dream altogether.
Let us cheers him.
Who is with me?
------------- "Man is nothing else but that which he makes of himself" - Sartre
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 19:47
Catcher10 wrote:
I just cannot believe he is gone.....playing his music and reading his lyrics just is not going to do it right now. This is going to take a long time to soak in.
I just recently ordered online and received counterparts, test for echo and vapor trails remixed(those were the ones I was least familiar with and wanted to get them again) and was just listening to them only a few days ago. However, after hearing this sad news it might be some time before I am able to listen to Rush again. That's how it was for me with Yes music when Chris Squire passed away and I see this as no different. This is going to be tough for me. Rush is probably my second favorite band(next to that other one word band(hint: the one I just mentioned two sentences ago).
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 20:00
RIP. It's a shock. Will take a while to process. Then again, have been getting used to the idea, lately, that my favourite musicians from the 60s and 70s are going to have to go one day. Since the time I got into rock: Gary Moore, Richard Wright, Ronnie James Dio, Aretha Franklin, it's a long list.
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 20:06
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 22:08
What a sad news ... cannot believe yet rly. RIP Neil.
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 22:25
Miss him already.
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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 22:44
R.I.P. He sure was one of the greatest drummers and also great lyric maker.
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 23:36
Such sad news. A musical giant. As big a loss as Yes losing Chris Squire and ELP losing Keith Emerson. R.I.P.
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 23:52
F**k, I guess I have a habit of tricking myself into thinking all the legends will somehow live to a hundred, blindsided by the news notification on my phone. If his only single contribution to the expansive canon of music were "2112" or "Cygnus X-1, Book 1" or "Subdivisions" I'd still be sending prayers up. RIP Neil!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 01:17
Incredibly sad news.Best rock drummer ever and totally bucked the 'stupid' drummer cliché. One of the true giants of music. RIP Neil.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 01:46
RIP another prog legend gone far, far too soon!
I imagine he and Chris Squire are putting together a record we've never had the Earthly pleasure of hearing.
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Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 02:05
Seriously, ProgArchives should shut down for one day in mourning. Neil was one of the true giants and one of the most beloved by anybody. The void he leaves as an artist, performer, lyricist is enormous
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 05:05
One of the best and influential drummers in the rock world.
Read his book, Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road, a year or two ago. Good read and insight into the man.
RIP Neil and thanks
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 06:38
This is... monumental.
Rest in peace dear Neil. ...and thank you, for so much.
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 06:41
Rest in peace Neil. A giant of rock music.
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 07:07
Shocked and saddened when this new popped up when I entered FB yesterday evening...
Another great band I will never see...
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Charles Bukowski
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 07:47
Very sad to learn of the death of Neil Peart, drummer, author, lyricist, and a gentle man, too. Carolyn and I offer our heartfelt condolences to Neil's family, and of course to Geddy and Alex. The image is one we shall remember him by; with the man himself during the recording of 'Burning for Buddy' (1994). Carolyn and Bill Bruford.
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 08:06
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 08:37
Very sad. RIP Neil. A rock legend for sure.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 09:10
After yesterday's initial shock, today deep feelings of loss and mourning set in. I'm sure everyone will remember where they were and what they were doing when they heard of Neil's passing. Sadly, that's the mark of a great man.
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 10:18
I never knew he had experienced such personal tragedy. However, I do think he and Portnoy stand above the rest of the drummers I have seen live or heard in recordings...Hope his family realise how much respect the man has and will continue to get from the people he has entertained and will continue to entertain with his astounding musicianship and lyrical profundity...
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Posted By: Ghost Whistler
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 10:46
farewell to kings
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 10:51
Reminiscing with a friend yesterday about getting a place in line at the arena box office in pre-dawn hours during a record breaking freeze. I wanted to hear Rush perform live, but I wanted to SEE Neil Peart play.
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 10:54
Logged in after a few months offline because of this. Absolutely gutted to see this news. Rush hasn't been on my listen list for a little while, but I'll be sure to spin the whole discography this weekend. The influence that man had on this genre is immeasurable... a legend was lost yesterday.
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Posted By: Cylli Kat (0fficial)
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 11:24
Immensely saddened by the news of the passing of Neil Elwood Peart. Rest In Peace.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 11:59
Just saw this......RIP Mr Peart, and condolences to his family.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 12:00
He was technically brilliant but for several reasons not my cup of tea. R.I.P.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 13:02
I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 13:10
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat
Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 13:14
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
RIP another prog legend gone far, far too soon!
I imagine he and Chris Squire are putting together a record we've never had the Earthly pleasure of hearing.
My favourite bass player and my favourite drummer. Could have been great indeed (though I think that Geddy Lee was strongly influenced by Squire's bass playing). When I read the news, I had to think of Chris Squire as well: both lived to the same age: Neil Peart lived only two days longer than Chris Squire.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 16:27
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
RIP another prog legend gone far, far too soon!
I imagine he and Chris Squire are putting together a record we've never had the Earthly pleasure of hearing.
Hell yeah haha
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Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 19:52
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: January 12 2020 at 08:31
Neil Peart himself on his tenderest memories growing up in Ontario:
Having myself grown up in the 80-90's, I marvel at how it was to grow up in the 50-60's, and I've always have it deeply connected with progressive rock and other awesome things that came in the 70's.
Rest in peace Neil P.
Posted By: symphonicman
Date Posted: January 12 2020 at 14:48
Rest in peace.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 00:40
This actually affected me, in a way I never thought the death of someone I didn't know, could.
I spent all day Saturday - after hearing the news - and Sunday morning, in London with my girlfriend. We'd seen a show and done some sight seeing, and we'd both been looking forward to it for a while. But, I actually struggled to park this bad news about Neil Peart to one side for the duration. In recent years, we've seen Chris Squire, Lemmy, Bowie, Emerson and Lake among others pass away, and although I'm always saddened by these things, the passing of a Rush member is quite a big deal for me. Rush were the band that really got me into prog rock. The first band I obsessed over and Neil himself a true inspiration to me as a drummer.
For two nights running now, I've heard Rush songs playing in my dreams (or rather dreamy variations on them) Last night it was fragments of Ghost of a Chance, and the night before, Subdivisions.
A very sad day for rock music. An absolute tragedy for Neil's family, and for Lee and Lifeson. RIP NP.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 04:16
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat
Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).
I'm afraid that Rush without Peart would have been spelled with a lower case r.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 07:03
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat
Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).
Now how do you know that? My guess they would've jumped on the commercial bandwagon. While we'll never know for sure, i'd bet that whatever would've happened that it would have been inferior to what Rush accomplished with Peart on the team.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 07:35
In case you've forgotten, this is a RIP thread - meaning someone (who happened to be a husband and father, among other things) died, and well before his time. I believe you can discuss what Rush would have done with a different drummer in another thread. Same goes for stating that you didn't like his style or his music. There is a time and a place for everything.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 07:44
^ Right on raff. You must keep micky well balanced.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 08:52
Raff wrote:
In case you've forgotten, this is a RIP thread - meaning someone (who happened to be a husband and father, among other things) died, and well before his time. I believe you can discuss what Rush would have done with a different drummer in another thread. Same goes for stating that you didn't like his style or his music. There is a time and a place for everything.
So why can't an RIP thread also be a tribute to someone's greatness? My way of expressing our collective loss is by reminding the community that a band like Rush was made great by Mr Neil Peart. In other words it's an expression of extreme gratitude that he joined the band and steered them into the beautiful music that they created. I agree that we shouldn't dwell on those thing here but a comment or two is worthy me thinks
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 09:38
siLLy puPPy wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat
Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).
Now how do you know that? My guess they would've jumped on the commercial bandwagon. While we'll never know for sure, i'd bet that whatever would've happened that it would have been inferior to what Rush accomplished with Peart on the team.
The only thing we know for sure is that without Peart, Rush would have not been the Rush we know now, and that in an of itself is quite a major statement. Peart was more than one third of the band. Not only was he the drummer, but the main lyricist. A lesser lyricist would have not required such complex music to express his words. So, yes, Rush probably would have been inferior to the Rush we know. Peart will be missed.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 10:32
siLLy puPPy wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat
Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).
Now how do you know that? My guess they would've jumped on the commercial bandwagon. While we'll never know for sure, i'd bet that whatever would've happened that it would have been inferior to what Rush accomplished with Peart on the team.
I know that because I have heard interviews with Geddy and read online (and in a Rush biography)that he and Alex were big into prog rock(yes before Rutsey left). In fact one reason John Rutsey left is because he was disinterested in the direction they were going in(his diabetes was also a big factor but not the only one). It's pretty well documented that Rush were heading in a more progressive direction before Rutsey left. Peart didn't really have much to do with the music so it's not like he had much of an influence on that anyway other than the lyrics.
Inferior maybe but it's folly to assume they would have sounded like Bad Company or Foghat just because they didn't have Neil. In fact it's highly unlikely the music itself would have been that different since like I said Alex and Geddy wrote the actual music(just probably with inferior drumming and lyrics. ;) ).
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 10:34
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Raff wrote:
In case you've forgotten, this is a RIP thread - meaning someone (who happened to be a husband and father, among other things) died, and well before his time. I believe you can discuss what Rush would have done with a different drummer in another thread. Same goes for stating that you didn't like his style or his music. There is a time and a place for everything.
So why can't an RIP thread also be a tribute to someone's greatness? My way of expressing our collective loss is by reminding the community that a band like Rush was made great by Mr Neil Peart. In other words it's an expression of extreme gratitude that he joined the band and steered them into the beautiful music that they created. I agree that we shouldn't dwell on those thing here but a comment or two is worthy me thinks
I think that AFlowerKingCrimson's (what a name! ) post came off as sounding like Neil wasn't that important to the group and I'm sure that's not what he meant, but we reacted to it instead of just praising the man. If that's what raff objected to than I think she's right. We can debate elsewhere.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 10:37
SteveG wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
Raff wrote:
In case you've forgotten, this is a RIP thread - meaning someone (who happened to be a husband and father, among other things) died, and well before his time. I believe you can discuss what Rush would have done with a different drummer in another thread. Same goes for stating that you didn't like his style or his music. There is a time and a place for everything.
So why can't an RIP thread also be a tribute to someone's greatness? My way of expressing our collective loss is by reminding the community that a band like Rush was made great by Mr Neil Peart. In other words it's an expression of extreme gratitude that he joined the band and steered them into the beautiful music that they created. I agree that we shouldn't dwell on those thing here but a comment or two is worthy me thinks
I think that AFlowerKingCrimson's (what a name! ) post came off as sounding like Neil wasn't that important to the group and I'm sure that's not what he meant, but we reacted to it instead of just praising the man. If that's what raff objected to than I think she's right. We can debate elsewhere.
Nope. Not my intention at all. Just that the actual melodies and song structures(ie the music)wouldn't necessarily be that different since he didn't write the actual music(I don't count lyrics as music). However, Neil most certainly was very important in their development and I'm sure they wouldn't have been as big without him. Anyway, I made my point and really don't have anything else to say on the matter.
As for my username(and I'm not sure why you did the confused face)it's a combination of three references. If you can figure out all three send me a pm(instead of here since we don't want to clog up this thread) and I'll congratulate you(no actual prize though. Lol.).
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 12:47
OK, let's keep this thread as intended, namely Neil Peart worship! I can personally say that Rush was the perfect gateway drug to more progressive music being a metalhead and all. 2112 FOREVER!!
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 13:19
Very "happy" to see this on top of ProgArchives Forum!
I also leave it here for when it had gone away.
Perhaps also on the main page...
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 13:21
^ I don't even think Keith Emerson got a top of the page tribute.
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 13:26
^ Agree he definitely should.. as I imagine many others too
I think I was not around at the time, though Keith's was very hard on me too. Such a genius.
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 13:40
Atavachron wrote:
^ I don't even think Keith Emerson got a top of the page tribute.
I don't think anyone had the idea to mess around with the banner before, but I'm a Rush fan and it was a spontaneous thing that I came up with and it turned out to be a lot easier than I thought to set up on the admin side of things, only once I actually explored all the workings. I would hope that in the future we might be using it for happier occasions, but I don't think that's in the cards for obvious reasons. Will keep it in mind to use it for proper tributes from now on though.
Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 13:54
historian9 wrote:
I don't think anyone had the idea to mess around with the banner before, but I'm a Rush fan and it was a spontaneous thing that I came up with and it turned out to be a lot easier than I thought to set up on the admin side of things, only once I actually explored all the workings. I would hope that in the future we might be using it for happier occasions, but I don't think that's in the cards for obvious reasons. Will keep it in mind to use it for proper tributes from now on though.
Very grateful on my part man, it's beautiful!
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 19:38
Andy Webb wrote:
Logged in after a few months offline because of this. Absolutely gutted to see this news. Rush hasn't been on my listen list for a little while, but I'll be sure to spin the whole discography this weekend. The influence that man had on this genre is immeasurable... a legend was lost yesterday.
Good to see you posting again.......
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 13 2020 at 20:57
Atavachron wrote:
^ I don't even think Keith Emerson got a top of the page tribute.
I don't think Squire, Lake or Wetton did either.
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 03:21
Just checked my personal Diary for 1979 - I only saw Rush once - Sunday April 29th - Manchester Apollo.
I was just shy of my 14th birthday, I loved the gig - but I would appreciate it more NOW!!! However, I was impressed by the sheer power (yet melodic) showing from all three fabulous musicians, Like being lamped over the head with an anvil wrapped in a persian rug....
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 04:10
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
As for my username(and I'm not sure why you did the confused face)it's a combination of three references.
Three references? it must be the new math.
Back to Neil. I think that Neil gets a bit of special treatment because prog fans, even the ones who don't like Rush or are just luke warm to them, know of Peart's personal struggles with his first wife and child both passing away so young, and his determination to move forward as a tribute both to the fans and his band mates. And that's aside from rehabilitating himself and maintaining his drive to be one of the best drummers in rock.
It's also quite sad that he couldn't retire and enjoy the rest of his life with his new family. So, there's a lot of sentimental feelings attached to his passing. And Neil just looked a very humble dude that was very uncomfortable with his accolades. A lot to take in with his sad passing.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 04:20
He was always someone who took good care of himself mentally and physically, which alongside his humble nature, his intellect and obvious considerable talent as a musician and writer, make his untimely passing ever more depressing IMO. He was not a 'walk on the wild side' rocker. He wasn't a drug and booze gannet like those idiots in the Rolling Stones, who still haul their semi talented carcasses out on tour periodically (not that I wish ill health on them). He was just a decent guy with an extraordinary gift.
He deserved a long and fulfilling life, and a peaceful healthy retirement. He was robbed of the latter by the cruel lottery of cancer.
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 05:58
Blacksword wrote:
He was always someone who took good care of himself mentally and physically, which alongside his humble nature, his intellect and obvious considerable talent as a musician and writer, make his untimely passing ever more depressing IMO. He was not a 'walk on the wild side' rocker. He wasn't a drug and booze gannet like those idiots in the Rolling Stones, who still haul their semi talented carcasses out on tour periodically (not that I wish ill health on them). He was just a decent guy with an extraordinary gift.
He deserved a long and fulfilling life, and a peaceful healthy retirement. He was robbed of the latter by the cruel lottery of cancer.
Amen to that.
Something similar happened to me with K. Emerson, aforementioned, it kept me very low and depressed at the time. So genial and delicate souls.. so unfair.
Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 06:21
Machinemessiah wrote:
historian9 wrote:
I don't think anyone had the idea to mess around with the banner before, but I'm a Rush fan and it was a spontaneous thing that I came up with and it turned out to be a lot easier than I thought to set up on the admin side of things, only once I actually explored all the workings. I would hope that in the future we might be using it for happier occasions, but I don't think that's in the cards for obvious reasons. Will keep it in mind to use it for proper tributes from now on though.
Very grateful on my part man, it's beautiful!
I think a picture of N. Peart would not be a bad idea either.. (be it for now or onward).
I stumbled upon this tweet from Jack DeJohnette on Neil:
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 08:00
Blacksword wrote:
This actually affected me, in a way I never thought the death of someone I didn't know, could.
I spent all day Saturday - after hearing the news - and Sunday morning, in London with my girlfriend. We'd seen a show and done some sight seeing, and we'd both been looking forward to it for a while. But, I actually struggled to park this bad news about Neil Peart to one side for the duration. In recent years, we've seen Chris Squire, Lemmy, Bowie, Emerson and Lake among others pass away, and although I'm always saddened by these things, the passing of a Rush member is quite a big deal for me. Rush were the band that really got me into prog rock. The first band I obsessed over and Neil himself a true inspiration to me as a drummer.
For two nights running now, I've heard Rush songs playing in my dreams (or rather dreamy variations on them) Last night it was fragments of Ghost of a Chance, and the night before, Subdivisions.
A very sad day for rock music. An absolute tragedy for Neil's family, and for Lee and Lifeson. RIP NP.
I usually don't get terribly affected by the passing of celebrities, but this hit me way harder than I expected. This was the music of my adolescence.
Rest in peace, Neil. Thank you for everything.
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 08:54
Padraic wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
This actually affected me, in a way I never thought the death of someone I didn't know, could.
I spent all day Saturday - after hearing the news - and Sunday morning, in London with my girlfriend. We'd seen a show and done some sight seeing, and we'd both been looking forward to it for a while. But, I actually struggled to park this bad news about Neil Peart to one side for the duration. In recent years, we've seen Chris Squire, Lemmy, Bowie, Emerson and Lake among others pass away, and although I'm always saddened by these things, the passing of a Rush member is quite a big deal for me. Rush were the band that really got me into prog rock. The first band I obsessed over and Neil himself a true inspiration to me as a drummer.
For two nights running now, I've heard Rush songs playing in my dreams (or rather dreamy variations on them) Last night it was fragments of Ghost of a Chance, and the night before, Subdivisions.
A very sad day for rock music. An absolute tragedy for Neil's family, and for Lee and Lifeson. RIP NP.
I usually don't get terribly affected by the passing of celebrities, but this hit me way harder than I expected. This was the music of my adolescence.
Rest in peace, Neil. Thank you for everything.
Absolutely. Me too. They were 'my band'
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 12:25
I don't usually chime in anymore- but I had to come back here for obvious reasons. Neil is my favorite person in music forever. You will be missed!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 14 2020 at 13:27
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I spUn 2112 this morning for the first time in years. It goes without saying that without Peart, Rush would've simply just been another Foghat
Actually, I disagree with that. After Rutsey left Geddy and Alex would have gone in a different and more progressive direction anyway and so would have ended up with a prog sound even without Neil. Neil was just the catalyst to help them achieve their musical goals much faster(imo).
Now how do you know that? My guess they would've jumped on the commercial bandwagon. While we'll never know for sure, i'd bet that whatever would've happened that it would have been inferior to what Rush accomplished with Peart on the team.
I know that because I have heard interviews with Geddy and read online (and in a Rush biography)that he and Alex were big into prog rock(yes before Rutsey left). In fact one reason John Rutsey left is because he was disinterested in the direction they were going in(his diabetes was also a big factor but not the only one). It's pretty well documented that Rush were heading in a more progressive direction before Rutsey left. Peart didn't really have much to do with the music so it's not like he had much of an influence on that anyway other than the lyrics.
Inferior maybe but it's folly to assume they would have sounded like Bad Company or Foghat just because they didn't have Neil. In fact it's highly unlikely the music itself would have been that different since like I said Alex and Geddy wrote the actual music(just probably with inferior drumming and lyrics. ;) ).
Nobody knows what would have happened. People can speculate. But I don't think they would have enjoyed the same range of success without Neil. Plus, Rush also evolved stylistically, they rode the wave. Saga moved at a nice clip till they down-shifted into full-on pop with Behaviour and Wildest Dreams (an album that saw the loss of two key members). Rush kept going.
Triumph enjoyed many years of great, if not universal, success. But they were the opposite of Rush in that in-fighting led to their demise. Rik left after their worst album, Surveillance. Gil and Mike gave it one more go with a different lead guitarist (Phil X) before calling it a day. Rush kept going.
Max Webster couldn't break the States and they ended. Rush kept going.
Loverboy? Right. Rush kept going.
Wihout Neil, there's no telling who they would have gotten. If Terry Bozzio had left Zappa's band and joined them, the results would have been interesting. (See: Danger Money.)
But the lyrics of Rush are what set them apart from most other rock bands. There really aren't that many bands that boast songs with genuinely intriguing lyrics — at least not the kind that translate properly to songs. There's only one Ian Anderson. Twelfth Night were blessed with the lyrical genius of Geoff Mann (RIP). Blue Oyster Cult gets bashed plenty ("nostalgia act!"), but lyrics are not a weakness with them. The same for Kansas. Jon Anderson's whimsical word puzzles draw equal parts admiration and laughter. Personally, I like them.
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 17 2020 at 11:52
A week after Neil's passing was announced, here is an excellent and detailed tribute from the Tor.com website: https://www.tor.com/2020/01/17/in-memory-of-neil-peart-fantasy-science-fiction-and-the-mystic-rhythms-of-rush/#more-541218" rel="nofollow - https://www.tor.com/2020/01/17/in-memory-of-neil-peart-fantasy-science-fiction-and-the-mystic-rhythms-of-rush/#more-541218
Posted By: Skywatcher72
Date Posted: January 17 2020 at 12:00
Still hurts so bad - for me he was the simply the best drummer of all time, because he elevated the drums to an essential part of the composition of the music. Not simply a clock by which the others kept time.
Watching endless videos of him talking about his kit and the way he set things up. the thought he put into every stroke every cymbal crash - he genuinely saw it as writing poetry with his drumbeats .
Yes people will write of his eloquence with his lyrics but for me he was most eloquent through his astonishing percussive composition.