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Negoba 
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 Posted: March 10 2011 at 21:20 |
ADHD is overdiagnosed, but yeah it's real. And yeah, everyone pays better attention on speed.
Edited by Negoba - March 11 2011 at 15:36
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Padraic
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Posted: March 10 2011 at 21:24 |
From what you describe it doesn't sound too serious, although I don't know what you mean by not communicating well.
I don't know if my kids are geniuses, but they sure are crazy.
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Padraic
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Posted: March 10 2011 at 21:28 |
 Negoba wrote:
For others, ADHD is overdiagnosed, but yeah it's real. And yeah, everyone pays better attention on speed. |
Yeah, this overdiagnosis trend is frustrating for my family because my brother-in-law has serious ADHD as sort of a subset of his general mental disability (which no one has been able to succinctly classify other than being in the general autism spectrum). When he doesn't take his meds, he can literally check out when you need him to pay attention - you can see in his eyes that he is somewhere else in a way that "normal" folks don't really experience.
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Dean
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Posted: March 11 2011 at 06:22 |
Epignosis wrote:
We don't have a GP (around here, it's a Family Physician)- a visit will cost us $150 or so- $140 more than we have at the moment. We took him to five professionals in Florida when we lived there and, sorry to say, they are all dumbasses. "No madam, our son does not suffer from depression and does not need special meds."
Eating disorders- funny you should mention that. Our son eats nothing but pasta, dairy, or yeast rolls. He might also eat chicken nuggets. He likes ice cream too. He refuses to eat fruits,vegetables, or anything else. It's not because they are veggies, but because they differ in color- he will eat some bread I bake if it is one color, but not other bread if it looks "funny" to him. We sometimes are successful in forcing a vitamin down his gullet, but it's a painful experience (for all of us).
His biggest thing is not being able to communicate well and not understanding cause and effect- I am hoping against hope that he grows out of this.
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Thankfully we didn't have to pay for medical treatment or medication - I shudder to think how much that would have cost, just the days off work and travel expenses every week for two years was enough. Often the side effects of the Meds were worse than the condition they were supposed to alleviate, it took (what appeared to be) a lot of trial and error to find something that actually worked (we reached the point of telling the docs no more anti-depressants, they're making her psychotic - that's when they put her on anti-psychotics...)
What you are describing doesn't sound like an eating disorder, but I'm no expert, I only have experience of an anorexic and while we first noticed that as "fussy eating" it was towards foods that "make you fat". Kids have funny eating habits and they often grow out of it - it's of concern when it affects health. (Have you tried putting tinted glasses on him while he eats - if the colour affects him, change the colour - kids eat with their eyes more than their taste-buds - make him veggie ice cream)
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(De)progressive
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Posted: March 11 2011 at 06:43 |
Wow, in my absence so much stuff seem to happened here. Well about the mental illnesses many can say the odds are quite few, and when it happens it can be considered as a coincidence which maybe really is, but I'm sure there is a definite relation with neurological problems of well known scientists, musicians, artists which is generally taken granted of their remarkable talents in their own areas, while they haven't much suffered from their illnesses as a real insane human being, just with the lack of their some abilities cause their life to become a bit hard in some perspectives.
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''Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.'' (Friedrich Nietzsche)
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Dean
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Posted: March 11 2011 at 06:58 |
Negoba wrote:
So Rob, after dealing with lots of "gifted" people. The line between "Asperger's" and "gifted" is mild. You're a smart guy. I suspect you married a smart girl. We're living in a era of selective breeding for uber-nerds. (Mine are 10 and 8, if I'm projecting on you ignore me.)
So frankly, I'm preparing my kids for being out of the norm. While it doesn't take a gifted person to appreciate prog, this is one of a million places on the net that is going to accumulate really smart people. It's a different reality from normal human existence.
For example, the guy the played rhythm guitar in the Metallica cover band that I played in in 1991 helped write the orignal program for Netscape that is now Mozilla. He's a millionaire. But he's just another guy like us that likes music and is smart.
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While I'm a skeptic over this thread topic in general, I can recognise some familiarity in what you are saying, though I am still reluctant to draw any conclusions or see generalised correlations between intellegence and unusual behaviour (however it is defined).
We probably are breading uber-nerds (the day my daughter realised she was a nerd was an amusing one).
Every parent in our "eating disorder" therapy group was middle-class, of "professional" status of some kind and all were noticeably intelligent if education and career is a measure (one couple were both GPs, two of the fathers were engineers, one father was a bank manager, three of the mother's were teachers, one was high-up in the media broadcasting etc.) - however, at the outset we were given a choice - one-on-one counselling or group sessions - perhaps it was our eduction/career status that allowed us to see the benefit of shared experience and so skewed the make-up of that group - idk - without knowing the make-up of other groups or the education/career status of those who elected to take 1-on-1 sessions it is unwise to draw conclusions - 5 families is a poor sample.
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Dean
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Posted: March 11 2011 at 07:04 |
JJLehto wrote:
Well now that you've settled that Dean I guess that makes you some type of genius!
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And I'm mildly dyslexic.
damn. 
Does that mean I'm mildly genius?
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Dean
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Posted: March 11 2011 at 07:12 |
(De)progressive wrote:
Wow, in my absence so much stuff seem to happened here.
Well about the mental illnesses many can say the odds are quite few, and when it happens it can be considered as a coincidence which maybe really is, but I'm sure there is a definite relation with neurological problems of well known scientists, musicians, artists which is generally taken granted of their remarkable talents in their own areas, while they haven't much suffered from their illnesses as a real insane human being, just with the lack of their some abilities cause their life to become a bit hard in some perspectives. |
I see where you are coming from, but surely everyone has some lack of ability that affects their lives, and everyone has talents that mark them as above normal in someway. Normal is not a narrow band of average abilities, it's a generalisation of many abilities and traits. There are several well documented cases of comedians who are bipolar, but they are anomalous - there are more comedians who are not and more people suffering from bipolar-ism who are not comedians. Some clouds look like this:
but not all of them.
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Luna
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Posted: March 11 2011 at 07:16 |
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That reminds me: I have a friend who has been diagnosed with ADHD and dislexia for a few years now, and he is far from genius.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 11 2011 at 15:12 |
Dean wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Well now that you've settled that Dean I guess that makes you some type of genius!
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And I'm mildly dyslexic.
damn.
Does that mean I'm mildly genius? |
Sadly so. If you couldn't tie your shoes or remember your address then you'd be a super genius.
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