Pink Floyd Album Tournament: Semifinal Round 1

Snow Dog wrote: thehallway wrote: Is nobody listening to a word I'm saying?   And, what's a troll? I'm "listening" buddy! ...and I don't think you are a troll. Treceratopsoil sometimes is though.

 

The obvious choice. DSOTM

Triceratopsoil wrote: Snow Dog wrote: thehallway wrote: Is nobody listening to a word I'm saying?   And, what's a troll? I'm "listening" buddy! ...and I don't think you are a troll. Treceratopsoil sometimes is though. I'm not a troll

Edited by 40footwolf - November 14 2010 at 14:58

40footwolf wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: Snow Dog wrote: thehallway wrote: Is nobody listening to a word I'm saying?   And, what's a troll? I'm "listening" buddy! ...and I don't think you are a troll. Treceratopsoil sometimes is though. I'm not a troll You can honestly be kind of a troll.

everything I post (outside of the general discussion and just for fun sections) is honestly how I feel

40footwolf wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Have i Missed a poll? Wasnt the last one Wall v WYWH? What happened to the albums after that? (from that round) You haven't missed anything-it's just this one and then WYWH vs The Division Bell and then the final.

thehallway wrote: Past experience yes.   And, for the 4th time, I was not suggesting that any of the people who before said that they prefered Ummugumma were the ones who fell to this observation, just some people and of course, the poster who alleged to "mindless pack followers"....   I think most people here can recognise my observation, but many are expanding it from the said some, to "anyone who voted Ummugumma on this poll".   But someone who is perhaps voting on strange grounds is unlikely to admit it anyway, so your search for 'evidence of dishonesty' will be futile.   Let us just accept that the point I made has an application to life, whether or not it is occuring in this poll.    Shall we move on?

Didn't see your response until now.  And you can move on if you like, but I think it's rather, to use your words, "Just some healthy arguing, you know".

Remember that the "How many DSotM voters are just mindless pack followers?" comment was in direct response to you writing "Once again, how many Ummugumma voters are just showing off.... " The context of remarks is important.

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On to other facets of this entertaining discussion:

As for being trolls, I think many of us have made trollish comments now and then.  I know I have, so I'm not about to accuse another of being a troll (that would be like the pot calling the kettle black). In my early  internet days I was a serious troll without even knowing what an internet troll was.


Edited by Logan - November 14 2010 at 15:34

cesarsc wrote: Logan wrote: 25 years ago I loved Dark Side of the Moon, but now I find it mostly boring.  Ummagumma, on the other hand, genuinely appeals much more to me.   OK, you listen to DSoTM for about  25 years and now it´s boring ......may listen to Ummagumma for 25 years?    DSoTM for me.   thx

Well, who wouldn't get bored listening to the same thing over and over and over and over for twenty-five long years without respite.  I'm glad that the turntable's needle finally broke.

But seriously, no, I don't mean that I listened to it for 25 years, I mean that 25 years ago I loved the album,  but don't anymore.  I went off it a long time ago -- haven't wanted to play it in years. There is a lot of music I was once really into that doesn't do it for me anymore. Sometimes because I over-play music, and sometimes just because my tastes change direction (I've discovered a huge amount of music since then, of course, and gone through different musical phases).  Back then I also loved Yes' Fragile and Rush's Hemispheres, but I don't have much desire to play those either.

By the way, I think I've known Ummagumma for longer (if not as well back then since I pretty much memorized Dark Side so there was little reason to externally hear it).  Ummagumma better fits my current tastes.

I listened to Ummugumma exactly 40 years (to the day) after it was released. I was in a caravan.

Love Ummagumma  but 

If only the studio album of Ummgummma were a Pink Floyd album. It's a collection of demos by the members stucjk together. Some fabulous moments Meadows, Narrow way but needing PF to add their bits. Sort of like A syd Barrett album without Richard Wright gently telling everyone what to play without appearing to do so.

The live album needed to be a 2 - 3 Lp set. Set The Controls is faded and Saucer has some live in the studio vocal fixing. Love the live album but it's a mish mash. a really good one though. My lind of mish mash.

But Dark Side has care, attention. cohesion, and a whole lot more effort, experience, thought and collective creativity form one of the world's premier rock bands. It has more DG guitar work and better vocals. It is more consistent. It has much more melodic ideas from Wright. It has Time. It has Money. Matter of fact it's all green cheese really.

What? is Dark Side a step back in progression?

Btw please don't let over familiarity by unimaginative Classic Rock radio out you off. This album used to be shunned in favour of... John  Stewart. "There's people there turning music into gold." (Well not any longer, it's all merchandise but that also is progression.