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Poll Question: Poll now open. Listen then vote for three "duos" and mention in a post
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 08:23
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Great idea for a subject, I did have a lot of trouble coming up with things that I felt weren't too familiar.  Another potential candidate was The Psychedelic Furs with "Heaven," though I thought that might be too known, which I try to avoid here.

Nickie, one of the first songs I thought of was the Psychedelic Furs' song. Also (nod to Raff), Slayer's South of Heaven. (Though the thrash song for hell was Megadeth's Go to Hell from the Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey soundtrack.) I also thought of the Brian Adams' hit, but not as something I wanted to share. Most of what I thought of was from the 80's and fairly well known. Love and Rockets had some success in the 80's, so some people might be familiar though the songs chosen weren't the ones that got radio play or released as singles.
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A lot of metal songs fit in here, but I don't wanna annoy anyone... Embarrassed
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 09:22
On the metal tracks front, that wouldn't annoy me, I like variety across the spectrum of selections by people, and with this theme I would expect that there is going to be music that annoys some people   I could easily imagine my Xiu Xiu track choice annoying people, and the Penderecki could be very abrasive to some, I would think.

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

What happens if a track is about both heaven and hell?


Ideally you balance that with a hell and heaven track. Mention a heaven or hell one to go with it, or another that fits both themes, preferably that provides some contrast, I would say, but that's up to you.

I was partially inspired by this by Art Zoyd's music for a take on William Blake's The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, and I have no issue with tracks that reference both. That said this is a duos track poll, so I would expect another track on the heaven or hell theme or both.

So everyone must mention two tracks, one that has a heavenly aspect, or one that mentions heaven and hell, and one that mentions hell...
You get the permutations idea.

That's a scenario I thought of at one time and I probably should have specified in case this was seen to be a concern.

Edited by Logan - June 09 2021 at 12:03
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 12:24
I've been thinking a bit, and I've decided to skip this poll. I'm not yet done with the previous poll, and I would like to hear the songs of it again before I can cast my vote. Moreover, I see there's a lot of metal here, and to be honest I am not the biggest metal fan in the world. So I will take the opportunity to have a little break and then come back for the next one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 14:30
What if the next poll is metal? Wink

I'm sorry to hear that Anders  Even when I conceived of this poll I was thinking that I'd be interested to hear what you come up with.  Same goes for anyone, feel free to mention songs on how you interpret the theme even if you plan not to be involved with the whole process and so will not nominate songs.  I'd love to hear that music if it is nominated or not.

Edited by Logan - June 09 2021 at 14:32
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 14:35
Good to see you Lorenzo!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mila-13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 15:54
Another heaven/hell duo from me.

HEAVEN: Msaki - Dreams
Msaki (Asanda Lusaseni Mvana) is a South African singer-songwriter. Currently one of my favourite African artists.


HELL: Laibach - Smrt za smrt (Death for Death)

A new interpretation of a masterpiece of post-industrial music. First released in 1984 on Rekapitulacija 1980-84.


Logan, thanks for the explanation! I hope that this time around it's gonna work with the posting of the video links. Smile




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tancos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 17:06
Ry Cooder, Great Dream from Heaven" vs. The Pogues, "Boys from the County Hell"





Haystacks Balboa, "The Children of Heaven" vs. 13 Cats, "Hell Bop"





Joe Satriani, "Lights of Heaven" vs. Mattias IA Eklundh, "Midsummer Night in Hell"





Bonus for the brave and foolhardy: Brave Combo, "In Heaven There Is No Beer" vs. Stuart Hamm, "Country Music (A Night in Hell)"




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 18:27
I might actually have submitted the Talking Heads song. What's interesting about it is, the way it depicts heaven, it sounds more like hell to me (nothing ever happens). Apart from that, it would probably be easier for me to find a hell related song, because with heaven we are entering a religious area, and I am not religious myself.

OK then. To hell with it. I'll submit it anyway. Here is Talking Heads - "Heaven":



And a "hell of a song". Kaizers Orchestra - "Ompa til du dør" (Oompah till you die)
Kaizers Orchestra were from Norway. The chorus goes "And you will be dancing oompah till you die")







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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 19:16
Kees' 3rd selection wouldn't play for me, I'm posting this one, in case that is true for anyone else, probably a country-proprietary thing: 


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^ That one doesn't work here. Hopefully the first does.

Edited by The Anders - June 09 2021 at 19:18
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2021 at 19:39

Wednesday afternoon has given me some more listening time.  Here are first takes on the rest of Page Two:

George:  Love and Rockets “Everybody Wants to Go to Heaven”  Starts with humming and strumming.  There are some wongly keyboards, the vocal is kind of whispery.  Saxophone (or maybe done on keys) joins in, in a couple of spots, being played simply.  Some nice keyboard embellishments come more to the fore.  Lyrically, they juxtapose “types,” against one another, all who want to go to heaven.  Music goes to the rear as the vocalist comes to the fore and the song fades.  Love and Rockets “Bound for Hell”  This is a much harder rocker, with a semi-spoken vocal.  Builds in intensity, then has more of a bluesy feel with the addition of harmonica.    Lyrically, a train ride to hell, as the title suggests. 

Mila-13:  Ofra Haza “Heaven Kol haneshama (The Entire Soul) ”  Gorgeous voice, love this kind of stuff.  I know she was very popular (and still may be) a while back, but I didn’t have resources at that time to do as much listening as I do these days.  Looks like a gorgeous film as well.  There is a traditional oriental orchestra underneath, and a male chorus as well.   Just beautiful emotion in her voice. Shortparis  “Hell” This also has a Middle Eastern feel, which is something I love.  There is a steady percussive beat and a very discordant guitar that comes in, not as crazy about the guitar, but the vocal is very passionate.  Interesting combination of traditional/experimental with some disco-y beats thrown in. 

Hiram:  CMX “Taivaan Lapset”  Begins with bright guitar notes and band comes in full throttle, drums and bass, with a rock beat.  Fairly deep-voiced singer, kind of an odd melody to the lyrics.  I like the force of the music and it’s well-produced.   There’s a reprise of the beginning about 2/3rds in.   The lyrics in English are a little spooky.  CMX “Epäonnisten Liikemiesten Helvetti”  This one is a hard rocker from the start.  Vocalist here sounds very different, may even be a different person.  Lyrics seem a little odd in English, but that could be the translation I found.  The changes are cool, and there’s an extra-cool one at about 2 minutes in. Abrupt ending.  Haifara “Manala”  Much more quiet than the previous piece, solo picking on electric guitar and flute start the piece.  A whispery vocal with gorgeous flutes, wish I could find a translation, but I enjoy it anyway.  Goes into a great discordant section about 1/3 in, didn’t see it coming, but that’s prog for ya!  The Discordant Procession goes farther down the road, but then the next set of Discord shows up fast on it’s heels, this time with vocals.  It settles into a lovely progressive-style guitar lead, with some sax underpinnings.  The song closes with more vocals in a dire sounding emphatic style.  Ends as it began, quietly. 

Cristi:  Emma Ruth Rundle “Heaven”  Watery, echo-y guitar starts the piece.  A confessional style to the female vocalist.  Haunting lyrics, in kind of an almost alt-country vocal style, or maybe a Kate Bush/Tori Amos-y way.  Some violin comes in, very quietly, into the mix.  I like this very much….and look, she’s based up the road from me (now), Portland, OR.  Lovely, washy guitar lead near the end (is she ascending?) 😊  Joey Tempest “Outside Heaven”  Acoustic guitar and bass (?), or could be a loopy keyboard (?) , capable male vocalist, with good range.  This is more of a rock/ballad than the previous selection.  Well produced aiming-for-hit fare. 

Raff:  Anúna "Whispers of Paradise"  Begins with harp, I would think.  Then lovely choral arrangement. A dreamy vocal, with visionary lyrics.  Flute or keyboard flutes join in, very magickal piece.  Has a feeling a little of “Moonchild,” in the lyrics for me. You did this just for me!  😉      The next, you did not do for me, lol.  Metallica's "The Call of Ktulu"  Although I’ve heard a harpist play Metallica (Carol Tatum covers “Nothing Else Matters”) before, this is not that. This is the real schmuguggie, and goes to a frequent metal inspiration, HP Lovecraft’s Cthulu (don’t say that too loud!).  Picked electric guitar at the start, goes into some dissonance, I know the big cacophany is going to come at some point.  Slowly builds in intensity, and here’s the in-your-face part at 1:30.  One thing they don’t do, is skimp on their songs, this is a longish one.  Lotsa wailing lead guitar and crunchy drums and bass. They keep going up the scale on the guitar melody, which is up front.  Heavy keys (?) for a moment at about 6:30.  Then some fits and starts melodically, for interest, then the guitars are doubled up a bit before the descent into quiet madness at the end, with a drumroll and one last time crunching those gee-tars.

suitkees:  King Missile “Heaven”  Misquoting a Beatles tune at the beginning, jokingly, which is understood why, when they start the song, as it does echo that song.  Why do I think that this will not be as sweet as it seems like it will be?  Acoustic guitar accompanies a slightly sardonic vocal….and yes!  I did foresee what would happen! Noir Désir “666.667 Club”  This has a heavy and discordant sound from the start, with whanging guitars and drums.  There’s a hooky little pause here and there, with some mizmar-type horns arriving from left field and some indistinguishable vocals going on with lots of banging and clanging.  Some wailing sax shows up and battles with itself.  This is another track where the craziness goes off down the road, eventually.  Einstürzende Neubauten “Paradiesseits”  Wobbly keyboards with some high-ish notes, joined with more, that are deeper (or perhaps another instrument).  The translation helps, the vocal is a bit whispered and relaxed, and with good reason.  Nice day at the beach, with a feeling of just enjoying a lazy day.  The British Expeditionary Force “All Those Demons”  This one begins very twinkly.  Pleasant vocals chime in, with those twinklies continuing. Another bit of pleasantry.  Ends with some high vocals, fading out.  My fave this time was the less-than-heavenly Noir Desir.

LorenzoGood to see you’re able to participate a bit!  😊  Massimo Zamboni feat. Lalli & Marina Parente “Dolorama (Painrama?)”  Picked guitar starts with a bit of a tortured-sounding voice.  There is an underpinning of keys, very high, that give an impression of pain, to me, like fevered pain can feel sort of shimmery, even through the unpleasantness.  The orchestral sound on synth/keys is very effective.  Now a female vocalist comes in, with wonderful vocal control (as should be, since you advised us she is an opera singer).  Then back to the male vocalist, as you said, it’s like the woman has the climactic part of the pain experience, then the male is when things are not as intense.  Very hypnotic piece, as it sparkles out, perhaps the cessation from pain.  Franco Battiato  “L'ombra della Luce (The Shadow of Light)”  Live, with orchestra, love the beginning already, with lush strings.  Gentle-voiced male, very expressive and moving vocal.  Oh, this is lovely. Trumpet solo is sublime, too.      

Dang, what the h-e-double hockeysticks shall I finally get to voting for?  And I think we’re not yet near done. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2021 at 06:08
Instead of pairing a track about heaven with a track about hell, I've paired a track that mentions both heaven and hell (though only heaven is mentioned in the title) with a track that doesn't mention either (though it is clearly referring to either heaven or hell):
 
 
 
Todd Rundgren - "Everybody's Going to Heaven"
 

 
 
The Alan Parsons Project - "Can't Take It With You"
 

 
 


Edited by I prophesy disaster - June 10 2021 at 07:00
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Here are a pair of songs that share the same title.  Even though the styles are completely different, the message is the same, however, the first is a fun Irish sea shanty done by "The Muckers" (the Heaven side) and the second is a more somber and discordant song by "Angels of Light" (one of Michael Gira's [Swans] projects) (the Hell side).

The Muckers - "New York Girls"



Angels of Light - "New York Girls"






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2021 at 17:23
It takes me ages to go through and write even minimal comments on all the music, I'm very slow at such things, but I have listened to most of what has been posted so far and really appreciate it.  Thanks.  And good to see you participating, Lorenzo.  I hope you're knitting, healing, and feeling as well as could be expected under the circumstances.  And I'm very pleased to see you participating, the Anders.

And Mila, I loved your last duo of choices.

Just a reminder to please try to have final nominations (your duos of choice) up by Monday.  The poll goes up on Tuesday.
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Here is my 2nd pair from two of my favorite bands:

HEAVEN:  Oceansize - "Heaven Sent"  (in the Archives)



HELL:  Trophy Scars - "Time in Heaven, Forever in Hell" (not in the Archives)



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tigerfeet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2021 at 18:42
For a song that may represent Heaven or the idea of Heaven to me I chose this song, "White Horses" - by Jacky (later know as or Jackie Lee). It has a way of being finite in a nostalgic kind of way, most uplifting and happy, but at the same time it tears at the heart for an unreachable past. Whenever I listen to this song it evokes this emotion of being in Heaven (or as close to Heaven as one can be here on earth).


For my Hellish song, I chose "Hell Broke Luce" by Tom Waits. I have to admit, whenever I feel angry, upset, or like I am living in Hell, I listen to Tom Waits. He has a plethora of hellish tunes and this one here about the Hell of War. He is a lyrical maestro. After listening to a few of his songs I always feel much better. (Warning: There are two expletives in this song). 



 


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I thought we weren't supposed to suggest prog bands/songs. Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2021 at 00:58
We can nominate Prog music. Originally I made it not to allow it but then in about a couple of hours of putting the topic up following a couple of early comments, I decided to allow music included in the prog archives database. Sorry if you didn't notice and that made choosing more difficult.

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