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Dean 
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 Posted: August 17 2010 at 16:40 |
 Marty McFly wrote:
I myself found them today, so I'm not the one suitable to handle their addition, but if they'll be found worthy of some of our Prog (or almost Prog - PROTO/RELATED) categories, I wanted to give chance to members here to help. Outsource our work a little bit, give them a hint what's our daily bread (most of us does few biographies on weekly basis) etc.
But what do you mean Dean by double O and what do you Chris mean by 006.5% ?
Indeed, SC has to send application, as in case with Stewart Copeland and Ray Manzarek is currently going on. Who will it be, that's not so sure as of now. |
007 is James Bond - " Do pay attention 007" is what "Q" says to James Bond when he shows him all the wizz spy gadgets.
I was making a joke while making a point. Bob has already volunteered to be the SC proposing Pretty Things for Proto-Prog.
all Admins are SCs - in case you missed that too  .
SO, "Do pay attention Marty!" 
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himtroy
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 01:00 |
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Yeah unfortunately I don't think I can contribute much. I have two of their albums, but don't really know much about the band or anything. I just knew their sound and thought it belonged here.
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
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Peter
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 01:53 |
Easy Livin wrote:
While they have been discussed, they've never been formally proposed or rejected for Proto-prog as far as I can remember.
Given the significance of PF sorrow, which is often cited as the first concept album, they would seem like a good addition to me (personal view, I think I'm allowed one!).
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 Agree -- just "discovered" the Prettys myself, a few months ago. I now have Emotions ('67) and Parachute ('70) -- great albums. (I want "Sorrow," but the original version is not on Itunes.)
With concepts, psychedelia, strings, etc, a shoe-in for "proto" or "related," IMO.
I especially recommend Parachute to fans of classic rock (such as The Kinks) -- prog or otherwise. 
I missed them "back in the day" -- they were not at all well known this side of the pond. Pity.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 05:05 |
Dean wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
I myself found them today, so I'm not the one suitable to handle their addition, but if they'll be found worthy of some of our Prog (or almost Prog - PROTO/RELATED) categories, I wanted to give chance to members here to help. Outsource our work a little bit, give them a hint what's our daily bread (most of us does few biographies on weekly basis) etc.
But what do you mean Dean by double O and what do you Chris mean by 006.5% ?
Indeed, SC has to send application, as in case with Stewart Copeland and Ray Manzarek is currently going on. Who will it be, that's not so sure as of now. |
007 is James Bond - "Do pay attention 007" is what "Q" says to James Bond when he shows him all the wizz spy gadgets.
I was making a joke while making a point. Bob has already volunteered to be the SC proposing Pretty Things for Proto-Prog.
all Admins are SCs - in case you missed that too .
SO, "Do pay attention Marty!" |
So that's it :-D I saw most of Bond movies when I was young, so with Czech dubbing (as our foolish TV's dub everything), so I know this line as "Dávej pozor agente 007". + I always confused characters 0 & O, as they look almost the same, so I thought that you said double OO. Smile used in this case would probably be (obvious) O_o Too overcombined Dean, like plot of very complex movie.
OK, 5 stars equals 5 stars, they have the same adding privileges, but I forgot that admins add bands too, as it's not happening so often (except you, John Easy Money etc).
I listened both mentioned albums, I thought and I'm unsure. Proto ?
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Dean
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 05:21 |
Marty McFly wrote:
I listened both mentioned albums, I thought and I'm unsure. Proto ? |
Enough people here think Proto and Bob is going to propose them to the PR-team to evaluate, further opinion is interesting, but won't change anything.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 05:43 |
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Not trying to put major events in motion, just adding my opinion in the bunch of those that are already here.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my
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himtroy
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 13:24 |
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How is this going? Do we think they'll end up on here?
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
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Easy Livin
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 13:32 |
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Currenly under consideration for proto prog, more news soon.
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thellama73
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 13:46 |
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I heard the Pretty Things were good, but I didn't do my research and I ended up getting Savage Eye, since it was the only one the record store had. It's terrible. I want to check out S. F. Sorrow or Parachute, but I'm reluctant after my bad experience with Savage Eye.
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Dean
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 14:03 |
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^ Their first two albums are run-of-the-mill 1960s british R&B Beat combo stuff (two early singles were covered by Bowie on Pin-ups). The next 'Emotions' saw them go Psyche-pop like many of those 1960s R&B bands, SF Sorrow and Parachute are a culmination of that move towards psyche - personally I think SF Sorrow is over-acclaimed, it's okay, but not great. Anything after Parachutes is best avoided.
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KCarao
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 12:52 |
himtroy wrote:
They're a much greater example of proto-prog/prog related than many of the "classic rock" bands that are included in proto prog/prog related. Their album S.F. Sorrow being the main arguing point. |
I agree! And it's such a great album!
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lucas
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 16:24 |
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SF Sorrow is a concept-album released in 1968. What is surprising is that it is not proto-prog but really prog !
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted: November 14 2011 at 09:25 |
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I happened to notice that their song Private Sorrow-Balloon Burning was on the Supernatural Fairy Tales compilation so for the heck of it I checked PA to see what category they were in and saw that they aren't included. Additional research found this thread from a year + ago. Just curious if anything further was decided regarding this band and whether proto-prog or psychedelic prog was an appropriate category for them.
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Dean
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Posted: November 14 2011 at 11:30 |
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Windhawk
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:31 |
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Bumping this one ever so slightly, as Fruits de Mer now have a tribute album out - SF Sorrow given a run through by 13 different contemporary bands, of which a few of the contributors are in the PA database.
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Dean
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:37 |
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I've re-bumped the thread in the AZ - we're waiting on one vote, but indications are they will get approved for PP.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:41 |
MMmmhh yes - that would indeed be great. Wonderful band that was every bit as charming as those boys from Liverpool. I loooooove Parachute 
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:47 |
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Now, if they get approved, whose the unlucky b*****d that gets to do the donkey work on that addition? A massive task ahead for someone by the looks of it.
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Dean
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:48 |
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Bob has already volunteered to do the add as long as someone prepares the Biography and Discography.
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Windhawk
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Posted: February 19 2012 at 06:51 |
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Hehe, it was the bio and disco I thought of as the massive task. The addition into the database itself is a 2 minute task at worst with a prepared bio at hand ;-)
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