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Poll Question: How do you feel about Marilyn Manson?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 23:31
Well, maybe. That is certainly one "Target Audience" But a 15 year old high schooler might not get all of the fantastic wordplay and lyrical content in his peak work. I'd say one of my favorite points to his music would be the lyrical content. That, and the dark atmosphere that his songs conjure. Looking past his image, you can find a lot of solid writing, song craft, skill, and musicianship.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 23:32
Ha.... you lurker....
As you can see I have made a return...of sorts. I decided, (about an hour ago LOL) to see how this place was doing.
And I wouldn't want to throw this thread off topic...that would be very un-PA like.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 23:35
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Well, maybe. That is certainly one "Target Audience" But a 15 year old high schooler might not get all of the fantastic wordplay and lyrical content in his peak work. I'd say one of my favorite points to his music would be the lyrical content. That, and the dark atmosphere that his songs conjure. Looking past his image, you can find a lot of solid writing, song craft, skill, and musicianship.


There is no doubt, as I said I DO like his music, at least the older stuff. I just think the message of it all maybe lost on people who don't quite get it all. As you pointed out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 18:56
Never been a fan.  I have followed his career with some interest, however, since he's from my hometown (nope, never met him), and it's always fun to see a local hit the bigtime.  And it helps that he comes across as a reasonably intelligent guy in interviews.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:07
A 90s buffoon that makes his dollars from aping Alice Cooper and playing vaguely-distorted "music" for the kiddies. Snooze.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:11
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

A 90s buffoon that makes his dollars from aping Alice Cooper and playing vaguely-distorted "music" for the kiddies. Snooze.


Yeah yeah yeah. All music past 1989 is worthless and  no one should ever play music, again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:20
Well, I kinda liked what I heard on myspace, so I'll definitely be checking out something.  Thanks guys for the recommendations. 

By the way, this kicks butt on Alice Cooper.  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:36
He sucks BALLS.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 19:40
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Well, I kinda liked what I heard on myspace, so I'll definitely be checking out something.  Thanks guys for the recommendations. 

By the way, this kicks butt on Alice Cooper.  Wink


Don't count Coop out, yet. If you like Manson, check out his "Brutal Planet" release. My favorite album by him, actually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 21:39
I can't say I'm a huge fan of MM, but his version of "Personal Jesus" is as good if not better than Depeche Mode's original. I have seen him interviewed and he does appear quite an articulate guy and has done other songs that are not too bad.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 21:43
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Well, I kinda liked what I heard on myspace, so I'll definitely be checking out something.  Thanks guys for the recommendations. 

By the way, this kicks butt on Alice Cooper.  Wink


Don't count Coop out, yet. If you like Manson, check out his "Brutal Planet" release. My favorite album by him, actually.


Sorry.....I shouldn't have dissed the Coop, he's got some good tunes. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 12:27
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

A 90s buffoon that makes his dollars from aping Alice Cooper and playing vaguely-distorted "music" for the kiddies. Snooze.


Yeah yeah yeah. All music past 1989 is worthless and  no one should ever play music, again.
 
No, nobobody said that, there's plenty good music after 1989 or 1999, but some of us think Marilyn Manson is not one of those cases, just a poser created to sell rebelion to kids who want to be rebels without leaving the comfort of their houses IMHO.
 
A market product, and not a good one I believe.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 12:36
Hey, here's a name I haven't heard in a long time. A really funny guy and a gifted pop musician.

I loved it how he was on Jay Leno once when Shaggy was the musical act, and the grinning Shaggy gave him an enormous hug after finishing the song.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 12:53
I prefer his earlier Trent Reznor produced albums - Mechanical Animals was good, but didn't have the staying power of Antichrist Superstar. He was great fun to see live, but Bill Bailey has the best quote on that:
 
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Bill Bailey: I went to see Metallica - yeah, 'tallica! - and I went to see them at Milton Keynes Bowl. They were being supported by Marilyn Manson - I love Marilyn, Brian? I love Brian, he's great. But anyway what he used to do to get the crowd going was just chant the name of the place over and over. So we were treated to this magnificent spectacle of this eight-foot freak, eyes different colours, wearing a rubber corset, down on one knee shouting "MILTON KEEEEYNES". Stay with me to the grave, that will.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 13:06
I had my short fashination with MM around Mechanical Animals and went to see the freakshow when it came to town. Entertaining but certainly not great art IMO. I purchased the successor to Mechanical Animals too but lost interest after that one. The MM albums I own are now packed away in my basement with all the other music I might take out and listen to in ten years time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 14:18
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Holy Wood and Mechanical Animals FTW!!



his new stuff sucks Major Balls.
 
How does Major Balls feel about that? Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 14:44
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

A 90s buffoon that makes his dollars from aping Alice Cooper and playing vaguely-distorted "music" for the kiddies. Snooze.


Yeah yeah yeah. All music past 1989 is worthless and  no one should ever play music, again.
 
No, nobobody said that, there's plenty good music after 1989 or 1999, but some of us think Marilyn Manson is not one of those cases, just a poser created to sell rebelion to kids who want to be rebels without leaving the comfort of their houses IMHO.
 
A market product, and not a good one I believe.
 
Iván


Actually, Walter keeps saying that on every given occasion LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 15:23
I became acquainted with Marilyn by my ex-girlfriend who was his devotee. I really liked his albums "Holy Wood" and "The Golden Age Of Grotesque".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 18:11
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

I became acquainted with Marilyn by my ex-girlfriend who was his devotee. I really liked his albums "Holy Wood" and "The Golden Age Of Grotesque".


If you really liked Holy Wood, chances are, you'd enjoy Antichrist Superstar, too. Mechanical Animals being the more glam and accessible of the three.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 00:55
I dislike him for both his vaudeville and music, I can't stand this guy , he is a total disaster.ShockedConfused
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