Angel (US Symphonic/Crossover)

^ the link doesn't work because the closing ")" in (band) is not included in the link - a simple error easily fixed, thus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(band)

Oh boy what a quarrel over a simple misunderstanding.

The web address is OK, only RF4 didn't put the ending bracket in the hyperlink

rushfan4 wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(band)

This is better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(band)

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: That's not all Swan Song, saying   "I realize that a definition from another site means little to most here at PA and absolutely nothing to Ivan,·   Is totally unjustified, false  and aggressive, as a fact when i add a band, I check and quote what every other site says as a referenvce, even if the other site doesn't agree with me,   Iván

That's true, but he may have simply mistook you for Cert1fied for a moment. Trying to remember that debate about the definitions for Symphonic Prog you had with Cert some time ago, it was difficult even for me to remember exactly who supported those various definitions and who didn't.


Edited by Swan Song - December 30 2008 at 18:31

I hope this was a missunderstanding, no hard feelings.

Angel prog ? Angel , an influence on 80s hair metal ?
Answer is no on both counts. No prog. No influence on 80s hair metal. The hair metal scene, while owing much to Glam Rock's penchant for anthems, also took a lot from 70s hard rockers like Kiss and Aerosmith. And Angel was seen in their time, and later as pomp rock. Puff piece music.
I know of no references made to them by GnR, L.A Guns, Motley Crue, Warrant, or other leading lights in the Hair Metal scene.
Indeed, the closest would be Axl Rose's championing the Aussie group Angel City. The reason they couldn't use their original name - the Angels, was because of Angel, and also a 60s girl group. And that's that.
As for their first album being prog ... well it did fly progressively farther the harder you threw it.
Friends of mine bought because of a perceived musical similarity to the then current hard rock scene. In the 80s, western civilization would invent the word "poser" to describe such musicians.
If you like them , fine. They did have a following, and I did read a few articles about them in magazines like Hit Parader and Circus. But none alluded to them being prog. And Circus regularly had groups like Rush, Genesis, and (gasp) King Crimson, Tull and Yes during the mid to late 70s.

Ah yeah, pomp rock. A definition used on bands like Angel, Kansas and Starcastle - amongst others. Magnum and Saga too.  Remember that style description and the bands mentioned as placed in that style since like forever; more than twenty years ago I first came across that style description containing those acts.

Found a more detailed account in Italian; strangely enough: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomp_rock

You have some valid points here Michael. One of my first introductions to US prog was a sampler double LP called "Striktly for Konnoiseurs" issued by Music For Nations here in Europe; with bands such as Angel, Starcastle and Max Webster given the prog/pomp rock tag along with acts such as Legs Diamond, Trillion and Desmond Child & Rouge.

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/various_artists___genres___pop_and_rock/striktly_for_konnoisseurs/

Interesting sampler, and one I hope will be reissued some day. Sampling vinyl over to digital files works; but a CD version would have been better ;-)

Okaayy! all I'm trying to point out, and I appoligize for not making much of anything clear, but along with Queen, Styx, Kansas, and Aviary in which they all took prog added their own touches and threw in some pop, hard rock, or whatever into the mix. That said, in my worthless opinion, there's not much of a difference between say Angel and Styx or Angel and Kansas, in which they all had great prog moments but none of it lasted that long. Yet here we are with these bands which often get critisism for not even being prog!

Edited by AmericanProgster - January 01 2009 at 17:06

I know. But I did make some statements, whether tame or not, that I usually don't unless I'm annoid. In which a lot of the things that come out of my mouth usally mean something different of what I actually believe.!

Yeah, I noticed that one! I love that website! Find some interesting artist who get great reviews using the mellotron!