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Ram , great band, yes for me. Where in coclusion - 1972 is a great album - heavy prog all the way
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2008 at 01:45
Originally posted by anoah anoah wrote:

There is an 80's band called Streets that is fronted by Steve Walsh, similar to Asia as far as progginess, or even less so.  Has an arena-rock feel.  Definitely some prog influences, though, like the pop side of Kansas.  I think it would fit nicely in Prog-Related.
 
Welcome Anoah.
 
Srtreets is the POP - AOR band of Steve Walsh and Billy Greer, I'm very familiar with them and no Prog connection for sure,
 
Lake has been suggested and rejected twice.
 
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Just these I know:
White, Lenny,Human Beast,Hurdy Gurdy,Killing Floor,Ram,Salem Mass,Toe Fat,Zerfas,Haze,Claypool, Les,Les Champignons,Leaf Hound
All are recommended for addition
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Anoah,
 
you are the first (not including myself) who mentioned Winter consort. I actualy grew on their music, mainly on their debut (self titled). Later I fell in love with Road and Icarus. I've been trying to mention them few times in the past and it seems nobody here knows them so I am very happy to meet another one who does. I fully agree with including them here.
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Originally posted by GentleGiant GentleGiant wrote:

Just these I know:
White, Lenny,Human Beast,Hurdy Gurdy,Killing Floor,Ram,Salem Mass,Toe Fat,Zerfas,Haze,Claypool, Les,Les Champignons,Leaf Hound
All are recommended for addition


White as Alan White?!? Smile

I wholeheartedly agree about Hurdy Gurdy, and not so sure for the Killing Floor (even as proto).
I'll propose Les Claypool for Eclectic in the near future.
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Originally posted by GentleGiant GentleGiant wrote:

Just these I know:
White, Lenny,Human Beast,Hurdy Gurdy,Killing Floor,Ram,Salem Mass,Toe Fat,Zerfas,Haze,Claypool, Les,Les Champignons,Leaf Hound
All are recommended for addition
 
My opinion if it matters:
 
  1. Lenny White: Did an outstanding job as performer and member of Return to Forever, but his albums are FUNK JAZZ, no Prog connection
  2. Hurdy Gurdy: If we are talking about the 60's Swedish Psyche / Hard Rock combo, I'm Ok.
  3. Killing Floor: Again please specify, there's a Pop duio and a Bellew band, I guess is the second, not Prog music, but at least related because of the Bellew connection.
  4. Ram: PLEASE; BE CLEAR, there are 20 RAM bands
  5. Salem Mass: Terrible band, a more pompous and self indulgent version of ELP, but it's Prog
  6. Toe Fat: Another Uriah heep related band, not the best Hensley and Kerslake incarnnation, but at least related
  7. Zerfas: Proto Prog, no doubt
  8. Haze: Not the  best band, but Neo anyway
  9. Les Claypool: Please, no rog connection, seems the latest fashion i to add funky artists.
  10. Les Champignons: Never heard them
  11. Leaf Hound: Blues Rock, niothing more

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Hurdy Gurdy are Danes. Not Swedes.
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:03
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Hurdy Gurdy are Danes. Not Swedes.
 
Ok Scandinavian....The problem is that there are a Hurdy Gurdy from the 60's which are Danish (As you well say) and a Hurdy Gurdy from the 90's that are Swedish.(Released an album called prototyp) and of course Donovan (The Hurdy Gurdy Man)
 
That's why I ask to precise before recommending, for example, there are at least ten bands named Ram.
 
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Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

well HeavyProg is kinda busy at the moment so I'll not have much time to track down info and samples for such a big list..  I'll do what I can


 
David i can help you if you want.Wink


sure Alberto, just PM any samples or links to me or fandango (no more than two bands at a time please Smile), thanks
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

well HeavyProg is kinda busy at the moment so I'll not have much time to track down info and samples for such a big list..  I'll do what I can


 
David i can help you if you want.Wink


sure Alberto, just PM any samples or links to me or fandango (no more than two bands at a time please Smile), thanks


 
Ok i will send samples of those bands cited earlier Wink




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Ram:
http://www.progressiveears.com/ASP/reviews.asp?albumID=1985&bhcp=1
http://www.alexgitlin.com/npp/ram.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_(band)

Killing Floor:
http://www.marshalamp.com/mckfloor.htm
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gnfwxqwgldhe~T0

Les Champignons:
http://www.progquebec.com/champignons.html
http://ezhevika.blogspot.com/2006/03/champignons-premiere-capsule-1972.html
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Originally posted by omri omri wrote:

Anoah,
 
you are the first (not including myself) who mentioned Winter consort. I actualy grew on their music, mainly on their debut (self titled). Later I fell in love with Road and Icarus. I've been trying to mention them few times in the past and it seems nobody here knows them so I am very happy to meet another one who does. I fully agree with including them here.


I also live Paul Winter Consort. My dad played it for me all the time when I was younger: both the albums you mentioned, Road and Icarus. Love them both, but I favor Icarus. Definitely good for the archives, with a little bit of world-influence, too.
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Lake, the german-british band, could be compared to Supertramp, if you take out Crime of the Century from their output. I thought they used to be here. I have 3 of their 4 albums, and they are well worth a listen. But I'll have to go through them again to see if anything past the first one really qualifies as prog. And the debut's progginess amounts to the second side (LP & Cassette) being made up of 3 lenghty songs.
I'll toss in another few cents worth soon.
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Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Lake, the german-british band, could be compared to Supertramp, if you take out Crime of the Century from their output. I thought they used to be here. I have 3 of their 4 albums, and they are well worth a listen. But I'll have to go through them again to see if anything past the first one really qualifies as prog. And the debut's progginess amounts to the second side (LP & Cassette) being made up of 3 lenghty songs.
I'll toss in another few cents worth soon.
 
Hi Claude, Lake was in the master list recommended for Symphonmic.
 
I)n 2006, with Raff and Micky, we cleaned all the bands in that list that had the word Symphonic beside them, and passed on Lake.
 
In 2007 with a totally different team we received 13 bands, and despite oçur previous report, they were recommended again, and the result was:
 
Quote Topic: Symphonic Team Additions from the Master List
    Posted: May 19 2007 at 23:24
 
 
Lake: Prog Related at best. Suggest striking them from the list, and let it be forgotten.WE CHECKED THEM LAST YEAR (WITH RAFF, MICKY AND FRAGILE DT AND REJECTED THEM, WE RECOMMENDED TO BE REMOVED, AND A NEW TEAM HAS THE SAME OPINION.
 
Guys, please, don't look at this thread and omit it, we have done a research that must be used, we are recommending some bands to some sub-genres and this is already verified, lets use what we found.
 
Bob, HT, James, Iván
 
 
So at least twice, and by two different Symphonic Teams, this band has been checked.
 
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I'm listening to them now (Lake). It would have been a stretch for PR. I really can't see how they made it in symphonic in the past. The first album has three extended songs, but one is more of a jam at the end than a suite.
The next two were hard rock/pop. Above average and underrated, but not prog.
Again, my earlier comparison of Supertramp stands. They do share some of the pop sensibilites, but not much in the way of prog attitude.
On the other hand, they do remind me of the sort of music I'd heard on the one City Boy album I listened to (now completely forgetten).
So to summarize, you won't get an arguement from me that they don't really belong here. Your mid 70s rock fan might find them of interest, but PR already has had its' share of long shot suggestions of the type of music.
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Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

I'm listening to them now (Lake). It would have been a stretch for PR. I really can't see how they made it in symphonic in the past. The first album has three extended songs, but one is more of a jam at the end than a suite.
The next two were hard rock/pop. Above average and underrated, but not prog.
Again, my earlier comparison of Supertramp stands. They do share some of the pop sensibilites, but not much in the way of prog attitude.
On the other hand, they do remind me of the sort of music I'd heard on the one City Boy album I listened to (now completely forgetten).
So to summarize, you won't get an arguement from me that they don't really belong here. Your mid 70s rock fan might find them of interest, but PR already has had its' share of long shot suggestions of the type of music.
 
No DB, never made it to Symph, there is a list of bands recommended to research, this one was assigned to Symph, but never made it top the archives.
 
As we, evert tteam has a good bunch of them.
 
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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Hurdy Gurdy. A Yes from me.
 
Me too, i would suggest them for the Heavy prog genre, or even related, no harm at all.
 
About Oz Noy, i would like to see avestin's opinion about it, i only know the album called Ha! and like it a lot, could fit in jazz/fusion maybe,not really sure.

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Les Champignons!
 
I have their ''Premiere capsule'' album from 1972,I think.Quite an obscurity,even here in Quebec where they come from.They would fit the psych/space rock category fine.An ecclectic mix of blues,folk,psych and light sympho stuff a la early Ange(at least on one song).On other tracks they sound like a druggier early Jethro Tull.There's definite underground vibes that premates the production.ie;muddy mix,low fi sound.
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Champignons would be a fine choice like Ram's Where in conclusion!
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Points: 1250 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2008 at 03:25
Originally posted by anoah anoah wrote:

Originally posted by omri omri wrote:

Anoah,
 
you are the first (not including myself) who mentioned Winter consort. I actualy grew on their music, mainly on their debut (self titled). Later I fell in love with Road and Icarus. I've been trying to mention them few times in the past and it seems nobody here knows them so I am very happy to meet another one who does. I fully agree with including them here.


I also live Paul Winter Consort. My dad played it for me all the time when I was younger: both the albums you mentioned, Road and Icarus. Love them both, but I favor Icarus. Definitely good for the archives, with a little bit of world-influence, too.
 
It seems we share a "Dad problem" LOL
My absolute favorite is "Fantasy fuge and the ghost beads" from Road.
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