Bands That Should Be Considered For Inclusion
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Topic: Bands That Should Be Considered For Inclusion
Posted By: anoah
Subject: Bands That Should Be Considered For Inclusion
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 23:55
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I know that in order to submit a band, I need all sorts of information, but
I would just like to suggest a few bands here which deserve inclusion, just to
start a discourse.
I'm sure some of these bands have been discussed, but I want to have them reconsidered. Thanks! Crossover Prog: http://myspace.com/47833656 - Lake Streets Experimental/Post-Metal: http://www.myspace.com/earthofficial - Earth http://myspace.com/73949757 - Sleep Jazz Rock/Fusion: Baker, Ginger/Ginger Baker's Air Force http://myspace.com/57046359 - Critters Buggin Halsall, Ollie http://myspace.com/165278346 - Norgaard, Marc http://myspace.com/193402299 - Jam Camp http://www.myspace.com/earthofficial - Noy, Oz http://www.myspace.com/pgroove - Perpetual Groove http://myspace.com/193402299 - School of the Arts http://www.myspace.com/43304272 - Skerik/Skerik's Syncopated Taint Septet http://www.myspace.com/65223598 - West, Andy White, Lenny Winter, Paul/Paul Winter Consort Vertú Mariani http://myspace.com/414626646 - Human Beast http://myspace.com/254104837 - Hurdy Gurdy http://myspace.com/77426775 - Killing Floor Ram Salem Mass
Toe Fat
Zerfas Neo Progressive: Haze Prog Related: http://myspace.com/161359282 - Cale, John http://myspace.com/39073727 - Claypool, Les http://www.myspace.com/146970718 - http://www.myspace.com/233556445 - Wood, Roy/Roy Wood's Wizzo Band/Wizzard Progressive Folk: http://myspace.com/183016859 - Nosy Parker Psychedelic/Space Rock: Bunn, Roger
http://www.myspace.com/266896455 - http://myspace.com/190033011 - http://myspace.com/6526676 - Little Free Rock
http://www.myspace.com/75760007 - Velvett Fogg ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 00:02
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well HeavyProg is kinda busy at the moment so I'll not have much time to track down info and samples for such a big list.. I'll do what I can |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 08:15
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A lot of these have been suggested and discussed before e.g. Budgie and Patto. With respect it would save the genre teams a lot of time if you could filter these out by searching through the Suggest New Band section. For the ones that haven't been suggested before, we will need MP3 samples, photos, biogs, web links etc as per the requirements. Thanks. |
Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 19:30
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Okay, I removed Ginger Baker's Air Force Todd Rundgren The Pink Faires The Deviants Faith No More Budgie Patto Ween But I still think these bands should be added. Anyway, I'm new to the forum so I'm not exactly sure what to do. Should I just open a post about a certain band that contains all of this information (i.e. mp3's, photos, links, bios, etc.)? -------------
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 19:50
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Hi Anoah, Welcome to the site and thank you for the band suggestions. It is PA's goal/motto to be the ultimate prog resource but there are so many bands out there we definitely count on band suggestions to find many bands that aren't currently included.
The long answer to your question is to check out this thread here:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51990 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51990
You should probably check out that thread anyhow, but a quick response is that it is generally best to start a new thread with the bands name and suggested genre in the title. That way the specific genre teams are alerted that a band has been suggested for them to listen to. Within the thread, a quick summary about the band and why you feel they belong on PA is helpful, as well as links to the bands MySpace Page or Website, or other internet sources that might play music that can be listened to for judging the bands "progginess" as well as determining the best fit for a genre to include them in.
The quickest way to get a band included on PA is to also include a picture of the band and an original biography of the band that can be easily added to their PA page, or at the least can be used by the genre specialists to assist them with writing an original biography for PA. I hope that this helps. And thank you again for your assistance with finding the prog bands that may not otherwise have been found. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 21:11
Do you mean Mike Skinner's The http://www.the-streets.co.uk/ - Streets - or is there another band called Streets? ------------- What? |
anoah wrote:Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 23:54
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There is an 80's band called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streets_%28band%29 - Streets that is fronted by Steve Walsh, similar to Asia as far as progginess, or even less so. Has an arena-rock feel. Definitely some prog influences, though, like the pop side of Kansas. I think it would fit nicely in Prog-Related. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streets_%28band%29 -
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 00:42
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Twink is pretty awsome, and already http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3079 - here
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Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 07:12
Oh, oops!  I'll take him off the list. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 07:19
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noted your suggestions for S-R/psych... we'll get to those. Thanks man
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 10:50
David i can help you if you want.  -------------  |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 10:52
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Sleep is a good band, i think they should deserve to be in PA.
Little Free Rock is also a good band.
is Lake the German jazz prog band?? ------------- |
Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 18:26
I wouldn't say Jazz Prog...more like a good example of pop-infused prog or Crossover Prog. Some might argue Prog Related. You can listen to their samples at the myspace page link. There are some good tracks. http://www.geocities.com/badcatrecords/LAKE.htm - Biography http://lake_paradiseisland.tripod.com/html/en/biography.htm - Another Biography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_%28band%29 - Wikipedia http://www.allmusicguide.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:a9fuxqu5ldde - Allmusic http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/lake - Rate Your Music -------------
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 18:34
Oh i see, i have a Cd of another Lake band, sorry ------------- |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: October 16 2008 at 23:53
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YES YES YES to Claypool! His solo stuff is more proggy than Primus is.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: October 17 2008 at 12:35
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Well i remember 2 or 3 years ago i suggested Danish band Hurdy Gurdy, which was not truly accepted buy may have been considered for prog related. ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 12:05
I agree, I thought of proposing him to Eclectic. ------------- |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: October 24 2008 at 14:21
| Hurdy Gurdy. A Yes from me. |
Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 13:08
I was reading about them. It turns out that Donovan's song "Hurdy Gurdy Man" was written for lead guitarist and friend Mac MacLeod but Donovan didn't like the version Hurdy Gurdy did, so he made a single out of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurdy_Gurdy_(band) http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Musical-Odyssey-Original-Hurdy/dp/B00008RH9U/ And check out their Myspace page. -------------
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Posted By: Gooner
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 15:22
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Eberhard Weber! Eberhard Weber! Eberhard Weber!
His earlier recordings qualify for the the progrockarchives.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 01:39
| Ram , great band, yes for me. Where in coclusion - 1972 is a great album - heavy prog all the way |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 01:45
Welcome Anoah.
Srtreets is the POP - AOR band of Steve Walsh and Billy Greer, I'm very familiar with them and no Prog connection for sure,
Lake has been suggested and rejected twice.
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: GentleGiant
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 03:52
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Just these I know: White, Lenny,Human Beast,Hurdy Gurdy,Killing Floor,Ram,Salem Mass,Toe Fat,Zerfas,Haze,Claypool, Les,Les Champignons,Leaf Hound All are recommended for addition ------------- BeGiantForADay "This British band is just the cup of tea for aficionados who demand virtuosity,progress and originality in their mix." http://rateyourmusic.com/~GentleG |
Posted By: omri
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 11:42
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Anoah,
you are the first (not including myself) who mentioned Winter consort. I actualy grew on their music, mainly on their debut (self titled). Later I fell in love with Road and Icarus. I've been trying to mention them few times in the past and it seems nobody here knows them so I am very happy to meet another one who does. I fully agree with including them here. ------------- omri |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 14:35
White as Alan White?!?  I wholeheartedly agree about Hurdy Gurdy, and not so sure for the Killing Floor (even as proto). I'll propose Les Claypool for Eclectic in the near future. ------------- |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 15:05
My opinion if it matters:
My two cents Iván -------------
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 15:47
| Hurdy Gurdy are Danes. Not Swedes. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:03
Ok Scandinavian....The problem is that there are a Hurdy Gurdy from the 60's which are Danish (As you well say) and a Hurdy Gurdy from the 90's that are Swedish.(Released an album called prototyp) and of course Donovan (The Hurdy Gurdy Man)
That's why I ask to precise before recommending, for example, there are at least ten bands named Ram.
Ivñan
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:36
sure Alberto, just PM any samples or links to me or fandango (no more than two bands at a time please ), thanks |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:50
Ok i will send samples of those bands cited earlier ------------- |
Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 18:10
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Ram: http://www.progressiveears.com/ASP/reviews.asp?albumID=1985&bhcp=1 - http://www.progressiveears.com/ASP/reviews.asp?albumID=1985&bhcp=1 http://www.alexgitlin.com/npp/ram.htm - http://www.alexgitlin.com/npp/ram.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_%28band%29 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_(band) Killing Floor: http://www.marshalamp.com/mckfloor.htm - http://www.marshalamp.com/mckfloor.htm http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gnfwxqwgldhe%7ET0 - http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gnfwxqwgldhe~T0 Les Champignons: http://www.progquebec.com/champignons.html - http://www.progquebec.com/champignons.html http://ezhevika.blogspot.com/2006/03/champignons-premiere-capsule-1972.html - http://ezhevika.blogspot.com/2006/03/champignons-premiere-capsule-1972.html -------------
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Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 18:12
I also live Paul Winter Consort. My dad played it for me all the time when I was younger: both the albums you mentioned, Road and Icarus. Love them both, but I favor Icarus. Definitely good for the archives, with a little bit of world-influence, too. -------------
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 21:03
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Lake, the german-british band, could be compared to Supertramp, if you take out Crime of the Century from their output. I thought they used to be here. I have 3 of their 4 albums, and they are well worth a listen. But I'll have to go through them again to see if anything past the first one really qualifies as prog. And the debut's progginess amounts to the second side (LP & Cassette) being made up of 3 lenghty songs. I'll toss in another few cents worth soon. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 11:36
Hi Claude, Lake was in the master list recommended for Symphonmic.
I)n 2006, with Raff and Micky, we cleaned all the bands in that list that had the word Symphonic beside them, and passed on Lake.
In 2007 with a totally different team we received 13 bands, and despite oçur previous report, they were recommended again, and the result was:
So at least twice, and by two different Symphonic Teams, this band has been checked.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 18:57
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I'm listening to them now (Lake). It would have been a stretch for PR. I really can't see how they made it in symphonic in the past. The first album has three extended songs, but one is more of a jam at the end than a suite. The next two were hard rock/pop. Above average and underrated, but not prog. Again, my earlier comparison of Supertramp stands. They do share some of the pop sensibilites, but not much in the way of prog attitude. On the other hand, they do remind me of the sort of music I'd heard on the one City Boy album I listened to (now completely forgetten). So to summarize, you won't get an arguement from me that they don't really belong here. Your mid 70s rock fan might find them of interest, but PR already has had its' share of long shot suggestions of the type of music. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 19:48
No DB, never made it to Symph, there is a list of bands recommended to research, this one was assigned to Symph, but never made it top the archives.
As we, evert tteam has a good bunch of them.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 20:21
Me too, i would suggest them for the Heavy prog genre, or even related, no harm at all.
About Oz Noy, i would like to see avestin's opinion about it, i only know the album called Ha! and like it a lot, could fit in jazz/fusion maybe,not really sure. ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 23:40
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Les Champignons!
I have their ''Premiere capsule'' album from 1972,I think.Quite an obscurity,even here in Quebec where they come from.They would fit the psych/space rock category fine.An ecclectic mix of blues,folk,psych and light sympho stuff a la early Ange(at least on one song).On other tracks they sound like a druggier early Jethro Tull.There's definite underground vibes that premates the production.ie;muddy mix,low fi sound. ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 12:31
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Champignons would be a fine choice like Ram's Where in conclusion! ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: omri
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 03:25
It seems we share a "Dad problem"
 My absolute favorite is "Fantasy fuge and the ghost beads" from Road. ------------- omri |
Posted By: anoah
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 11:17
You're crazy. "General Pudson's Entrance" is by far the best on "Road"  . Top favorites on "Icarus" are "Sunwheel," "Juniper Bear," and of course "Icarus."-------------
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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 13:18
I listen to prog therefore I'm crazy. Road is full of great tracks IMO. ------------- omri |