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NetsNJFan
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:43 |
both amazing
I'm a diehard Genesis fan (hell I even made a compilation from Abacab, Genesis and IT last night ) but I'm still going to pick Fragile. When Yes were on, they were unbeatable in prog. Sadly, they were/are very incosistent.
Heart of the Sunrise is my favorite Yes song.
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Zac M
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:46 |
Nursery Cryme for me, I can't see what all the fuss is about Fragile.
It's a good album, but to me, no more than three stars, while NC would
probably be four. Heck, I even prefer Drama to Fragile !!!
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:52 |
^ Meurglys, Fragile deserves credit if only for spawning the greatest prog-single ever, in Rondabout.
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:54 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
^ Meurglys, Fragile deserves credit if only for spawning the greatest prog-single ever, in Rondabout. |
That and it's one of the best progressive rock records of all time
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Zac M
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:54 |
I agree it deserves credit, but to me, it's not that amazing of an
album. A year ago, I probably would have rated it higher, but my tastes
have changed. And yes, Roundabout is a good song...I think you've made
me want to drag out my copy and listen to it again .
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:56 |
meurglysIII wrote:
I agree it deserves credit, but to me, it's not that amazing of an album. A year ago, I probably would have rated it higher, but my tastes have changed. And yes, Roundabout is a good song...I think you've made me want to drag out my copy and listen to it again. |
job well done
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:57 |
meurglysIII wrote:
I agree it deserves credit, but to me, it's not that amazing of an album. A year ago, I probably would have rated it higher, but my tastes have changed. And yes, Roundabout is a good song...I think you've made me want to drag out my copy and listen to it again. | HA HA - I was about to post the same thing - I just put on Fragile over here to listen to Roundabout - god listen to that bass line - unmatched
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 15:06 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
meurglysIII wrote:
I agree it deserves credit, but to me, it's not that amazing of an album. A year ago, I probably would have rated it higher, but my tastes have changed. And yes, Roundabout is a good song...I think you've made me want to drag out my copy and listen to it again. |
HA HA - I was about to post the same thing - I just put on Fragile over here to listen to Roundabout - god listen to that bass line - unmatched |
And the vocals on we have heaven!!!!!!!!! Brilliant!!!!!
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:16 |
nursery cryme is a bit boring lol, but it has a couple of cool songs. Fragile easily
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:19 |
I'd vote Nursery Cryme, it has great song to song quality and three amazing songs in The Musical Box, Return of the Giant Hogweed, and Foutain of Salamics. The shorter songs have great quality, that Fragile Just doesn't have. Songs like Roundabout are prog classics, but the overall quality of Yes doesn't reach that of early Genesis.
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Charles
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:32 |
I love Fragile, great collection of songs....
Same goes for Nursery Cryme, but the mixing is quite poor... even the re-mastered version as well....
Charles
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TheLamb
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 17:03 |
Impossible to choose
The Musical Box - Heart of the Sunrise - I love them equally.
The Return of the Giant Hogweed - Roundabout - I love them equally.
Fountain of Salmacis - South Side of the Sky - I love them equally.
Seven Stones - Long Distance Runaround - I love them equally.
Harrold the Barrel - Fish (Schindleria Praematurus) - I love Harrold slightly more.
Harlequin - Mood for a Day - I love Mood for a Day slightly more.
For Absent Friends - We Have Heaven - I don't love either but they are both equally "OK".
Cans and Brahms and Five Per Cent for Nothing don't really count, do they?
So......... ITS A TIE!!!
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 17:13 |
Nursery Cryme by a mile. Every track is quality.
Fragile is three excellent tracks and seven fillers
Nursery Cryme 5*
Fragile 3*
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 17:27 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
Nursery Cryme by a mile. Every track is quality.
Fragile is three excellent tracks and seven fillers
Nursery Cryme 5*
Fragile 3*
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In ireland we'd say to that, "get the boat"
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Flip_Stone
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 18:15 |
Another reason for being drawn to Nursery Cryme over Fragile is that I've heard Roundabout played on the radio about a million times over the past twenty years, with Long Distance Runaround seemingly several hundred times. That's not to say that those songs deserve the attention, but in Texas/USA, there are simple-minded fools at the helm of the radio stations who play the same old stuff over and over again (including that dreg of a song Stairway to Hell, I mean Stairway to Heaven)
In contrast, Nursery Cryme still sounds fresh...
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Winter Wine
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 18:21 |
Flip_Stone wrote:
Another reason for being drawn to Nursery Cryme over Fragile is that I've heard Roundabout played on the radio about a million times over the past twenty years, with Long Distance Runaround seemingly several hundred times. That's not to say that those songs deserve the attention, but in Texas/USA, there are simple-minded fools at the helm of the radio stations who play the same old stuff over and over again (including that dreg of a song Stairway to Hell, I mean Stairway to Heaven)
In contrast, Nursery Cryme still sounds fresh...
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Or maybe they play them because they're great songs? ever think of that?
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Tommy
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 18:41 |
Fragile was the album that set YES on the road to world domination. World class musicianship, three prog classics that have stood the test of time [Roundabout, Heart of the Sunrise and South Side Of The Sky], and the majestic Long Distance Runaround. Even the solo tracks paved the way for each members solo spot for many years to come. Did Genesis ever have the ability to solo and improvise live? I personally don't think so. And let's not forget the great Roger Dean cover and the crisp production. A true prog classic in every sense!
After listening to Nursery Cryme over the past twenty years it still fails to move me but leaves me totally cold. There is only one song on it that stays in my head and that's Musical Box, and then only the last section. I really understand Hackett's frustration of being too controlled by Banks on this album as he is barely audible. I recently saw Re-Genesis in concert and they played Giant Hogweed as an encore and I just had to leave as it really did remind me how poor Nursery Cryme was/is. And lastly, Gabriel's voice reminds me of Popeye at times when he really struggles to sustain his notes.
The winner is a convincing FRAGILE!
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SolariS
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 18:43 |
I pick Nursery Cryme over Fragile because I don't like Jon Anderson's voice. But I will give credit where credit is due. Fragile is probably more influential than Nursery Cryme.
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raindance
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 18:49 |
FRAGILE a ***** PROG MASTERPIECE
Nursery Cryme hasn't aged very well, both the production and quality of songs.**'s for efffort though.
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micky
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Posted: December 27 2005 at 18:57 |
Winter Wine wrote:
Flip_Stone wrote:
Another reason for being drawn to Nursery Cryme over Fragile is that
I've heard Roundabout played on the radio about a million times over
the past twenty years, with Long Distance Runaround seemingly several
hundred times. That's not to say that those songs deserve the
attention, but in Texas/USA, there are simple-minded fools at the helm
of the radio stations who play the same old stuff over and over again
(including that dreg of a song Stairway to Hell, I mean Stairway to
Heaven)
In contrast, Nursery Cryme still sounds fresh...
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Or maybe they play them because they're great songs? ever think of that? |
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