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jamesbaldwin
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It is an almost unknown group in Italy, which is characterized by a music without borders, with the contribution of different musicians depending on the genre it crosses. This song participated to the Etruscan music festival, therefore tries to evoke a music of the past with modern instruments, and creates a unique atmosphere, it is not clear if it is more western or more oriental ethnic music (we do not know for sure the origin of the Etruscans, according to some would have arrived in Italy from Greece), it is not clear if it is more world music or more new age, it is a truly indefinable atmosphere, except for one thing: it is Mediterranean music. Edit: Dissoi Logoi (Greek δισσοὶ λόγοι "contrasting arguments") is a rhetorical exercise of unknown authorship. Based on comments in the text it appears to have been written not long after the Peloponnesian War. It is intended to help an individual gain a deeper understanding of an issue by forcing them to consider it from the angle of their opponent, which may serve either to strengthen their argument or to help the debaters reach compromise. In ancient Greece, students of rhetoric would be asked to speak and write for both sides of a controversy.All surviving manuscript copies of Dissoi Logoi are appended to manuscripts of the works of the Pyrrhonist philosopher Sextus Empiricus whose works describe the use of arguments for both sides of a controversy for generating epoche, suggesting a strong connection with Pyrrhonist thought. Edited by jamesbaldwin - December 13 2020 at 19:23 |
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More in my typical style, here are my first-listen notes so far. Don't want to burn out, so stopping here for today.
George: Death Cab for Cutie “I Will
Possess Your Heart” Alt rock
world here. Kind of a swirly key start,
then on to bass. Weather and airport
sounds. Drums kick in and some eerie,
sustained guitar notes. Atmospheric as
all heck. Love the effected reverb-y
guitar sound. Lots of tension building
with glistening guitars and keyboard chords.
About halfway in, finally the vocalist begins with confessing his
obsessing, and chilling it is (as is the imagery with all of the ice and the
forbidden city, etc). Ends the way it
began, with slow fade. I had heard of
them, but never heard them, so thank you for the intro! Curtis Mayfield “(Don’t Worry) If There Is a
Hell Below, We’re All Going To Go” Begins
with some fuzzy bass and a party sort of background, people talking, the woman
in the front of the recording, speaking, mentions “The Good Book.” Some derogatory terms are thrown about with
lots of echo and a scream. That signature wah-wah guitar starts up with the
disco synths and horns, which one would expect from this. A song of it’s time, addressing issues of the
day. Sadly, still the issues of
today. Cristi: Light Field Reverie “All Roads Lead Home” Wiggly keys to begin, then synths with percussive sounds, in a minor key. Ethereal female vocals, very beautiful! This is very haunting, I think my favourite of anything you’ve ever posted. Love the mix as well. There is a male, spoken part, about 2/3rds in, but it suits the piece well. W.A.S.P. “The Idol” Here we are metal territory in a more typical way than the previous. It begins with sounds of a bar or restaurant with a manager arguing with his artist, then a phone dialing and a female voice answering. Guitar commences, quickly becoming an opening lead. Vocalist ponders the price of fame, which ends with supreme loneliness instead of true connections with people. Metal, yet with restraint. Dave Brubeck & Paul Desmond “All The Things You Are” Very Brubeckian (what else?) piece, with horn and brushed cymbals, soft keyboards. Very cool, classy, and upbeat, probably like the person they refer to in the title. A little interlude of “Deck the Halls,” about halfway in. Light and airy live track. Easy Money: Isaac Hayes “Something” Piano and guitar open this version, pretty flourishes on the piano, then orchestra comes in, with female chorus and some gypsy violin. Orchestra again, with male choral, blending into Isaac by himself and orchestral backing for embellishments. Violin comes in with the backup ladies and Isaac vocal-jamming….and the violin goes cosmic! The Anders: Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen "Je ne me tairai jamais, Jamais" This does begin discordantly, with voices, honking things and whistles (?). Finally settles in with some woodwinds, and horns at odd intervals, with a male spoken part. This one actually got my dog’s attention with the horns honking and the whistles, I kid you not. The feeling to this piece is very bleak to me. suitkees: Kaboom Karavan “Roadmap” This begins very subtly, with some low, bass sound repeating and discordant strings, almost making a choral sound. Some very mild percussive sounds kick in with bell-like sounds and some clangy strings. I get the feeling of a caravan in the distance very much, like what you might hear across some hills as a strange company makes progress from one place to another. Washboard sounding chanting near the end. Truly remarkable. Makes me think of an aural Henry Darger. Logan: Marius Popp “Inscriptie” Here we go to some avant-jazz, with more recognizable instrumentation. Piano and guitars, moving from a quicker pace into slower, with some synths. A female(?) voice, mixed back, joins in for a time. About halfway in, a sax solo commences, then back to the main theme. The piece concludes with some synth and guitar improv. Janko Nilovic “Giant Locomotion” Here we kick right off with drums, then vibes and some horns. Big city feel to this piece, with full horns and sounds of traffic at times. Sax solo joins with the full horn sections and big drums. Flute solo with tambourine and more big horns, then some spiky guitar lead, still with all of the forward motion keeping on. Surprise cello and violin spar with one another (my favourite part!). Roland Kirk-style flute and horns move this along with strings toward the destination crescendo. Lorenzo: Dissòi Logòi “Amptruabat Redamptruabat” In another complete change of pace from the last, this begins with some high flute, solo, treated with mild echo. Joining in at about a minute, it’s underscored by sustained notes on a keyboard, or are they a vocal? Hand drums and some bells join in with some quiet guitar and meltingly beautiful violin (or is it something like a mizmar?) in a Middle Eastern sort of style. More flute or ocarina-type instrument, still accompanied by the guitar and some twangy strings as well. Male vocal and some sustained (backwards?) guitar-type notes. There are some zils (hand cymbals) way back in the mix. This is fantastic, gotta say. Gorgeous gypsy-style guitar lead and then some double-picking, with flourishes. The possibly backwards guitar or violin through effects re-emerges. Did I say this was fantastic? The flute and guitar double on the same melody and the violin/mizmar thing comes back in an exotic, along with the flute/pipe fluttering about. Yep, fantastic. Edited by Snicolette - December 14 2020 at 18:21 |
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suitkees
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Nice to see that Kaboom Karavan's Roadmap is taking people somewhere... :) There are also some wonderful lengthy pop-outings I was thinking of, like Frankie Goes to Hollywood's Welcome to the Pleasure Dome (13-something minutes) or the Art of Noise's Moments in Love (10 minutes), but these are of course much too well known to put up here... For a next suggestion, I knew I wanted to propose something by the Belgium artist Kreng (Kaboom Karavan is also from Belgium, btw). In this realm of music (classical-electronic-experimental-cinematic-soundscapy thingies...?) he is one of my favourites. On his first album he relied much on samples, but further on he is introducing more and more acoustic instruments. On a side note: Nils Frahm mastered some of his albums and contributed to some tracks (but by lack of liner-notes I'm not sure on which ones...) I hesitated between two tracks, but I actually cannot choose... So, very cowardly, I leave that choice up to you, if you wish. On his album Grimoire (2011) he takes you to a place you actually don't want to go... Kreng - Wrak (Wreck): And the next one is from his album The Summoner (2015). On this track he is joined by an ensemble of string players and by the Belgium experimental doom metal band Amenra. Kreng - The Summoning: Edited by suitkees - December 14 2020 at 04:06 |
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Lewian
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I have some difficulties finding some things I have in mind on youtube. Is there a preferred alternative source or a recommended place where much music can be found and linked for free? Spotify?
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suitkees
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You know that EN have everything on youtube? (I was first thinking of putting up Perpetuum Mobile, but now I have already used up my quota...). Spotify, and other i-tunes and Deezer-like services, impose you to create an account to be able to listen to music there, if I'm not mistaken. If/when it concerns an existing or recent band, than there is bandcamp or soundcloud. Otherwise it might get a bit more difficult... other than putting it up yourself somewhere on the internet and link to it (but then, copyright-thingies and that become an obstacle...).
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Lewian
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Sure, and I was thinking about Fiat Lux... but as long as there's enough left, I prefer coming up with bands I haven't used before in these polls. Thanks for reminding me of bandcamp, I should've thought of them myself, even though I don't find the exact things there I'd have liked to find.
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Cristi
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I think if you cannot find something on youtube, be it overlooked, obscure or less known, it's not gonna be on spotify. also, not everyone uses streaming platforms. I don't. So I wouldn't be able to hear the songs you post. |
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Snicolette
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First listen continuing, here with suitkee's 2 additions and Mike's and Ronstein's posts:
suitkees: Kreng “Wrak”
Begins quietly, with a pulsating keys sound, which gradually swells and
is accompanied by very spare piano notes.
Tension builds with some discordant sounds, horns/guitars and a disconnected
type voice peppering in. I get the
feeling of severe drudgery and toil.
Blatting horns get louder and the sound of maybe chains clattering, the
voices aren’t getting any happier. The keyed string sounds wind up alone again,
with the dark piano notes. The piece
seems to end, but there are little whispers of something, until it does finally
disappear. Kreng again “The Summoning” Again,
this one sneaks up with the sound of distant strings and hollow footsteps (?). Occasional
choral type voices softly crop up intermittently. Another dark dirge piece (which doesn’t
bother me in the least, I kind of like dark dirges). This one is very cinematic in feel. There is a
brief pause at the halfway mark, then bass notes with a keyboard wash underneath
enters the stage. Then the dense onslaught
of sound arrives, very heavy guitar chords and drums. Deep screams ensue, then all fades to the
keyboards again, with a stray bass note or two, until the piece fades out. Mike: Television “Marquee Moon” As advertised, very punk/NYC sound here. Minimalist crunchy sound and an impassioned
vocalist. Not a lot of variation in the
piece, until the mid-section, where it does keep and hold interest. The lead guitarist is more complex than is
typical with this genre, and to me there are hints of psychedelia to his choice
of style and the jam style of the length of it.
They reprise the beginning at the end.
Gomez “Rie’s Wagon” This one
starts out with some wangly noise on guitar, some feedback, then the very
bluesy, raspy, almost lazy, vocals enter.
He got hold of some good medicine, doesn’t care about being run
over. Lots of feedback washes and drums,
and some harmonica bring forward motion.
Fleet Foxes "Third of May / Odaigahara"
This one is very different from the other two here, more of a Waterboys aura
about it, but lighter touch on the vocals, which are layered and etheric (nice
to hear etheric male vocals). A bit of a
psych-folk feel here, too. Very
back-in-the-mix orchestral touches here and there. Very dreamy, a reverie sort of piece. Incidentally, my son’s birthday is 3
May. The piece ends with drifting off….. Ronstein: The Allman Brothers “Mountain Jam” Very familiar with this one, so won’t vote on it. Classic Allman Brothers favourite, with a long jam on Donovan’s song “There Is A Mountain.” A really fun romp. PS: It absolutely belongs here, I just have a rule against voting "for" something I already know, in case it's too weighted by familiarity. Welcome to these polls! Edited by Snicolette - December 14 2020 at 18:30 |
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Lewian
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Ok, here's one... there will be more later, but this one at least is available on yt. Chances are this won't be my final nomination because it may not that popular around here. If you want, it's the opposite of prog, very smooth and repetitive and with some kind of pop song sound. It is heavily dominated by the sophisticated German lyrics, which probably doesn't help much, but still... I always thought that this is something very special. Blumfeld - So lebe ich English lyrics: That's How I LiveThat's how I live
In my room
A blink of an eye
A time crystal
A song in the dark
A pale shimmer
A small consolation
Not an isolated case At the midpoint
Time subjected
A sheet of paper
A little light
Songs to remember
Breathing means hoping
My body sings
I think of you A second now
We separate worlds
An ache, a rift
A difference
And tenderness
If we hold each other
A certain song
A love song (Chorus:)
That's how my heart beats
It beats in me
Hour after hour
It beats for itself
For you and me
Every second
That's how I live
One of many
Not an isolated case Me on myself
Nothing changes
A sore point
A blind spot
Thank you Satan
I can split myself
A self made man
A double look A mirror game
For thirty years
A thorn boy
A callow youth
From head to toe
With skin and hair
From flesh and blood
Purely external In search of yourself
To relieve the pain
A new sound
A new meaning
I feel guilty
I want to change
A pious wish
No new beginning (Chorus) A new day
No new life
A free market
Makes the world go round
Occupy the niches
Rule the spheres
Govern the night
Share out the money A resistance
By other means
One word, one way
In the first step
In expectation
Through dark steps
A vision comes
And takes me with it In show business
Show emotions
A protest song
By magic
It is so quiet
I speak in silence
A weighty no
From here to the wall (Chorus) That's how I live
To the late hours
A weak picture
A cataract
A music man
Makes his rounds
A flight, a circumstance
A new Year A white horse
A black bird
At a dead end
With a clown
A nothing, a nobody
At night and fog
A winter light
A world trust I need you
And can show it
We are close
And yet so far away
Love is possible
Between both of us
I will call you
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The Anders
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The Allman Brothers clip first looked like it had been deleted, but it seems it plays anyway. Weird. Television - "Marquee Moon": I know that one too well, so I can't judge it on the same level as the other songs. Therefore I can't vote for it, but it is an amazing track. Especially the solo part!
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Lewian
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I couldn't find exactly what I wanted to play by the genius Meredith Monk, but she has some other excellent stuff... much of it is either less than 8 minutes or more than 20, but there's this, so heartwarming to see good music like this done over the internet in 2020. "Anthem", for the impatient it starts at 0:40. |
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mathman0806 Death Cab for Cutie - I Will Possess Your Heart. Very minimalistic. It's build around a repeated bass riff. Builds gradually thanks to the other instruments, untill the singing finally sets in. Before that I thought it would be an instrumental piece, so the song manages to surprise me which is a positive thing. Pleasant listening experience, and it's quite bold of them to have such a long intro. Curtis Mayfield - (Don't Worry) If There Is a Hell Below, We're All Going to Go has a rather uncanny intro, after that it turns into an early 70's soul/funk thing reminiscent of Marvin Gaye or some of the Norman Whitfield / Barrett Strong compositions for the Temptations. Reading up on the song, it turns out it was released one year before the What's Going On album, but it clearly shares a similar spirit and topic. It's not entirely in the same league as Marvin Gaye, but I like it nevertheless.
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There are still leading top bands of my universe that I haven't played in any of these polls, that are probably reasonably unknown, and fit the theme, incredible! Tied and Tickled Trio have waited a long time for the occasion to appear and here it is. Unfortunately once more not quite the track I wanted to play, but once more they have enough good stuff on the web, so I go with Other Voices Other Rooms. Edited by Lewian - December 15 2020 at 14:43 |
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Cristi Light Field Reverie - All Roads Lead Home starts as a rather dark synth-driven track. It's not in a style I usually listen to, but it's clearly not uninteresting. Later it becomes more metallic. Melodically it's very much centered on the same 3-4 notes, and there is not much variation in the chords either (are there more than 3). But I guess it lies in the style. W.A.S.P - The Idol. Short non-musical intro. Then follows a rather late 80's sounding begining (the lead guitar in particular). Turns out it's from 1993. Later comes a solo that sounds quite a lot like the outro solo of "Comfortably Numb". Only knowing the band by name, I didn't really know what to expect. Again it's not so much my taste. Production-wise I notice the bass is very low in the mix. The outro ("Johnny, it's showtime") makes me understand why the solo sounds so much like that of "Comfortably Numb". I guess they are purposely referencing The Wall? David Brubeck Quartett - All the Things You Are. We are closer to my taste here. I am not exactly a jazz expert, so I don't know if I can say anything really intelligent about it. But I really like it nevertheless. The sound mix is a bit muddy which is a shame as many musical details get lost, and in jazz the small subtle details really make a difference.
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I have been listening to Karl Seglem today mainly because I was back into jazz this week. He has done quite a few segments over 8 mins through the years. I decided on this one since it is quite interesting and crosses over two or more genres of music.
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I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams.
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Snicolette
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Getting up to the minute here with first listens:
Lewian: Blumfeld “So lebe ich” Acoustic guitar strumming, then keys and drums set the pace. Vocals come right in, there are subtle changes within the verses, in terms of how he sings the notes for the words. Chorus includes some nice orchestral backing. Well crafted song with thoughtful lyrics, in the end, he finds that he wants connection and love with another. Meredith Monk & Vocal Ensemble and Alarm Will Sound “Anthem” Begins with sounding like being in a studio setting (and so it is, when I leave my document and look at the video). Woodwinds start, then abruptly end, where piano comes in. I like that it takes it’s time, with the various musicians quietly entering. There are also vibes first played with a bow, then in the more traditional way. Some quiet vocalization begins (and is joined from time to time by others) and flute accompanies here, then reeds, then violins and cellos. This is very sophisticated, hypnotic and lovely music, with a feeling of the divine. Tied & Tickled Trio “Other Voices, Other Rooms.” This is more modern sounding to my ear than the last, with bells or vibes, snap sounds and a couple of repetitive other noises at first, then some organ-style keys. The pace picks up a bit with some clanks and beeps, kind of an upbeat sense here. I get the feeling almost of traveling, like this could be a soundtrack while the protagonist in a film looks out a train window at a bleak landscape going by. The piece eventually drops back to just the vibes again, then the organ sound, then back to the vibes and a sort of clinky glass sound, before concluding..
tigerfeet: Karl Seglem “Springar fra fjord” Welcome to these polls, tigerfeet! Begins with violins (or maybe nyckelharpa?) and a drum sound, kind of like a tabor. Then the sounds get more full, is there guitar or the like underlying? Flutes or whistles kick in, this is quite enjoyable to my ear. Much more of a world music feel than I was expecting from your intro. Saxophone comes in, soloing. The first note or two, almost echoes the sound of a bagpipe, as it moves from the more world sound into jazz realm with drums and organ or piano underlay. Becomes more experimental in feel as it gets deeper into the piece. There is a bit of a duet with I’m not sure what instrument, but then kicks back in with violin or nyckelharpa and back we go to the world music. Lovely! Wow! Great bunch of selections thus far! |
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Hi Snicollette - its nice to be back. Karl Seglem is a really well known Norwegian musician. He is particularly know for Jazz fused with traditional Scandinavian music. It sounds like they are playing various traditional Scandinavian instruments on this track. It may well be a nyckelharpa and those kind of buckskin drums (almost like a heavy tambourine without the bottle tops). I only recently got into his catalog and there is a lot in there to chew on. He apparently plays a bukkehorn (Billy Goat Horn) and not on this track of course. There are not many people who can play it. For those interested, here is a link to him playing it Or this one - there's lots on youtube This was the drum i had in mind but dont think they used it on that track Edited by tigerfeet - December 15 2020 at 20:32 |
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I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams.
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I will enjoy looking at those links, thank you!
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the first Brubeck video posted has better sound quality, if it works for you. WASP's song is from their 1992 concept album called The Crimson Idol. The theme of the album is the fallen rock star, like Nickie pointed out in her comment. This song summarizes the album nicely. Light Field Reverie is an interesting project by the female vocalist of Swedish doom metal band Draconian. The doom is still present here, but it's a new take on the genre with the keys driven atmosphere. That's why I thought of it and posted it and obviously because the singing is excellent, too.
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