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Interactive Poll #88: It Goes On and On

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Topic: Interactive Poll #88: It Goes On and On
Posted By: mathman0806
Subject: Interactive Poll #88: It Goes On and On
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 05:06
A follow up to my last poll way back in August, which were 2-4 minute songs. So, now, the non-prog long song (or instrumental).

Rules:

1. With vocals or instrumental. Should be around 8 to 15 minutes in length. Could run longer if needed, but keep in consideration the time it takes for people to listen.

2. Artist must NOT be on the PA database.

3. Nominate a song and include a video. Optionally, you can include one or two alternates. 

4. Nominating will be kept open at least a week or so, followed by voting.

5. Voting starts when I get all selections in the poll and goes on until whenever.

6. Vote for three selections but not your own.

Link to YouTube playlist for the final nominees: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx7gYI_3zFr-_5mi5U1ry6el" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx7gYI_3zFr-_5mi5U1ry6el

Link to YouTube playlist for all videos: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6FsY_JriJw-Z4tmay2sZ8I" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6FsY_JriJw-Z4tmay2sZ8I

Be epic!
  



Replies:
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 05:11
First up from me, 

Death Cab for Cutie - I Will Possess Your Heart





Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 05:36
Alternate, in a different direction from my first.

Curtis Mayfield - (Don't Worry) If There Is a Hell Below, We're All Going to Go




Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 06:24






Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 06:54
Oh, nice: long and catchy songs...
But I guess the brilliant 55 minutes of Noir Désir's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRI2VBh_ZT4" rel="nofollow - Nous n'avons fait que fuir might be a bit exaggerated...?

I'll be back...


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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 06:57
Isaac Hayes' version of "Something" is something else. Quite a varied and eclectic ride that ends up as a wild psychedelic violin jam.



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 08:39
My nomination is 16 minutes long (sorry), but I just had to submit it sometime, and I think this theme fits perfectly.

The piece is "Je ne me tairai jamais, Jamais" by Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen. It was written in 1966 (but the recording is from 1997). The spoken words are by Samuel Beckett. On the CD it exists in two versions, one with Danish speech and one with the original French. I chose the latter.



Notice that it sounds exactly the way it is supposed to. I've seen parts of the score, and in some places he has written "senza vibrato, falso" (without vibrato, off-key) above the notes.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 08:52
Patience, young grasshopper.  

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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 10:48
Now, before we get lost in the meanderings of long songs, let's use a roadmap...

Kaboom Karavan - Roadmap:






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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 12:07
Marius Popp - "Inscriptie"



Not sure if I mentioned that in an earlier poll, very bad memory these days. EDIT: a search did not turn that up for the Interactive Polls (mentioned it a few time in the forum).

Or, and keeping with the jazzy, I had mentioned the longest track off Janko Nilovic's Rythmes contemporains, "Underground Session", which is my favourite on the album, but I didn't mention the second longest (I love this busy big band sound mixed with gentler more classical passages).

Janko Nilovic - "Giant Locomotion"





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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 15:00
My nomination is:

Dissòi Logòi: Amptruabat Redamptruabat (13'00'')









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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 15:05
^ I'm loving that, Lorenzo.

Listened to "Roadmap" earlier too and was really digging it.

I haven't listened to the others yet and already I have two standouts that I would hate not to be on my podium and it's only just got going.

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 15:34
Had to go psychedelic here.  "The Fool," by Quicksilver Messenger Service, 1968, clocks in at 12:13.  No fooling, in June of 1968, my sisters and I were driving across the Golden Gate at sunrise and this song came on KSAN. Never forgot it.

 


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 15:35
^ There's one I already knew and love. Knew the Isaac Haye's too actually, and love that too. Awesome music being posted, and I love the eclecticism across various nominations. Variety is the spice of life.

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 15:49
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Videos removed for space

  This one, your 3rd, didn't work for me, Cristi

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 15:53
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Videos removed for space

  This one, your 3rd, didn't work for me, Cristi

try this one then  



Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 16:29
Started the playlist for all videos. Playlist and link in the first post of the thread


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 16:54
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Videos removed for space

  This one, your 3rd, didn't work for me, Cristi

try this one then  

  Excellent, that one looks like it will.  Smile

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 18:11
For what it's not worth, my early impressions on the early selections having now listened to them all (I lack musical descriptive power despite my many years as a student of PA, basically expect lots of "like", "dig" type expression)...

1. Death Cab for Cutie - I Will Possess Your Heart

The title sounds like it could be a sequel to the horrific I Will Possess Your Soul and a prequel to I Will Possess Your Brains. It is, after all a death cab for cutie. I'd stay out of that taxi. I like a lot of Indie music and so this has a lot of appeal. I had heard some of this band also because I am into Indietronica. The song has post-rock like qualities that I like and I love the way it starts and how it sort of swirls. The vocal parts do bring it down a touch per my tastes (maybe too mainstream alternative rockish for me? and not keen how they do the choruses which seems bit too generic), but on second listen I'm able to appreciate those more. I think I'd need several spins to get my around it, and figure out exactly which associations I'm making. It's really reminding me of a song by another band that I can't recall. I enjoyed it and expect to appreciate it more fully as I give it more listens (can take a while to acclimatise oneself).

2. Curtis Mayfield - (Don't Worry) If There Is a Hell Below, We're All Going to Go. A classic and great in its way. This must have been sampled a lot. Its pretty fly, if you know what I mean, and this is one where I do pay attention to the lyrics. It's superfly, but is it superfreak?

3. All Roads Lead Home. An interesting mix of a sort of electronic soundtracky style that I've been very into and metalish and singer qualities that I wouldn't usually listen to. I like the etherial qualities, but I haven't really got into gothic, doomish metal, so again it would take acclimation. Never really got into metal.

4. The Idol: I've heard some W.A.S.P. of the 80s glam period. Famous band. I can appreciate the quality of the but it's not my taste (sounding far too hair metalish for me). But that's just my taste and I can still respect the performance and quality and given time....

5. Dave Brubeck: Well now we're into uberclassic territory. Dave Brubeck is brilliant and a master. I have heard this one, and it's very good.

6. Isaac Hayes' version of "Something": I like that a lot; heard it before. Very nice.

7. Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen - "Je ne me tairai jamais, Jamais": First of all, I dig Beckett. I used to be very into such Western Art Music of a similar period (think Penderecki and Ligeti, Stockhausen and Xenakis especially) but my tastes got a little less sophisticated one might say. That said, I am appreciating this avant-garde and minimalist work. I could imagine Art Zoyd's take on this, which is a favourite band of mine.

8. Kaboom Karavan - Roadmap: I love this. I love a lot of music on the electroacoustic side, and this caravan takes me places.

9. Dissòi Logòi: Amptruabat Redamptruabat: Beautiful and also takes me on a trip. Quality music and the way it develops, how it moves into sections with some different qualities while being cohesive really appeals (okay, that is a terrible sentence even by my standards or at least on par).

10. Quicksilver Messenger Service - "The Fool". Think I once did a poll myself with this option (not for this series). It's a favourite of mine from the time of that ilk. Great track.

Numbered minus my own selections.

EDIT: To add my comments on Mikes selection to this post:

11. Television - "Marquee Moon". Love that track and do think more people should know the album (even if lost do). Someone once called me a hipster for liking it. I said "And you have no pelvis". Which seemed a witty riposte at the time to me, but is just lame in retrospect.

12. Gomez - "Rie's Wagon". I don't think that I've heard of this band, but I'm finding that track very cool. I like a track that kicks me around a bit I like it a lot.

13 Fleet Foxes - "Third of May / Odaigahara". Heard various Fleet Foxes, maybe not that one. Very nice, and also has a kick.

All three of Mike's are kickin'.


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 18:27
So many to choose from.  Where do I start?

I would think a lot of you might know this one.  If you don't, you probably should as it was missed by everyone when it came out in 1977 and now it is now considered a classic, a precursor to the New Wave/Punk craze, even though it is over 10 minutes long.  The build-up in the middle instrumental section is awesome.  I thought it was in the Archives, but after searching, I couldn't find it, so here it is.....

Television - "Marquee Moon"



Next, here's a track from a recent favorite band of mine.  

Gomez - "Rie's Wagon"



And, the last one, for now at least....I'll see what others do because there were so many that I wanted to post.  This is a band that I absolutely love and who I would love to see get included somewhere in the Archives.  

Fleet Foxes - "Third of May / Odaigahara"







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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 19:18
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ I'm loving that, Lorenzo.

Listened to "Roadmap" earlier too and was really digging it.

I haven't listened to the others yet and already I have two standouts that I would hate not to be on my podium and it's only just got going.

It is an almost unknown group in Italy, which is characterized by a music without borders, with the contribution of different musicians depending on the genre it crosses. This song participated to the Etruscan music festival, therefore tries to evoke a music of the past with modern instruments, and creates a unique atmosphere, it is not clear if it is more western or more oriental ethnic music (we do not know for sure the origin of the Etruscans, according to some would have arrived in Italy from Greece), it is not clear if it is more world music or more new age, it is a truly indefinable atmosphere, except for one thing: it is Mediterranean music.

Edit: Dissoi Logoi ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek" rel="nofollow - Greek  δισσοὶ λόγοι "contrasting arguments") is a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric" rel="nofollow - rhetorical  exercise of unknown authorship. Based on comments in the text it appears to have been written not long after the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peloponnesian_War" rel="nofollow - Peloponnesian War . It is intended to help an individual gain a deeper understanding of an issue by forcing them to consider it from the angle of their opponent, which may serve either to strengthen their argument or to help the debaters reach compromise.

In ancient Greece, students of rhetoric would be asked to speak and write for both sides of a controversy.All surviving manuscript copies of Dissoi Logoi are appended to manuscripts of the works of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhonism" rel="nofollow - Pyrrhonist  philosopher  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sextus_Empiricus" rel="nofollow - Sextus Empiricus  whose works describe the use of arguments for both sides of a controversy for generating  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoche" rel="nofollow - epoche , suggesting a strong connection with Pyrrhonist thought.





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 13 2020 at 19:29
More in my typical style, here are my first-listen notes so far.  Don't want to burn out, so stopping here for today.  

George:  Death Cab for Cutie “I Will Possess Your Heart”  Alt rock world here.  Kind of a swirly key start, then on to bass.  Weather and airport sounds.  Drums kick in and some eerie, sustained guitar notes.  Atmospheric as all heck.  Love the effected reverb-y guitar sound.  Lots of tension building with glistening guitars and keyboard chords.  About halfway in, finally the vocalist begins with confessing his obsessing, and chilling it is (as is the imagery with all of the ice and the forbidden city, etc).  Ends the way it began, with slow fade.  I had heard of them, but never heard them, so thank you for the intro!  Curtis Mayfield “(Don’t Worry) If There Is a Hell Below, We’re All Going To Go”  Begins with some fuzzy bass and a party sort of background, people talking, the woman in the front of the recording, speaking, mentions “The Good Book.”  Some derogatory terms are thrown about with lots of echo and a scream. That signature wah-wah guitar starts up with the disco synths and horns, which one would expect from this.  A song of it’s time, addressing issues of the day.  Sadly, still the issues of today.  

Cristi:  Light Field Reverie “All Roads Lead Home”  Wiggly keys to begin, then synths with percussive sounds, in a minor key.  Ethereal female vocals, very beautiful!  This is very haunting, I think my favourite of anything you’ve ever posted.  Love the mix as well.  There is a male, spoken part, about 2/3rds in, but it suits the piece well.  W.A.S.P. “The Idol”  Here we are metal territory in a more typical way than the previous.  It begins with sounds of a bar or restaurant with a manager arguing with his artist, then a phone dialing and a female voice answering.  Guitar commences, quickly becoming an opening lead.  Vocalist ponders the price of fame, which ends with supreme loneliness instead of true connections with people.  Metal, yet with restraint.  Dave Brubeck & Paul Desmond “All The Things You Are”  Very Brubeckian (what else?) piece, with horn and brushed cymbals, soft keyboards.  Very cool, classy, and upbeat, probably like the person they refer to in the title.   A little interlude of “Deck the Halls,” about halfway in.  Light and airy live track.

Easy Money:  Isaac Hayes “Something”  Piano and guitar open this version, pretty flourishes on the piano, then orchestra comes in, with female chorus and some gypsy violin.  Orchestra again, with male choral, blending into Isaac by himself and orchestral backing for embellishments.  Violin comes in with the backup ladies and Isaac vocal-jamming….and the violin goes cosmic! 

The Anders:  Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen "Je ne me tairai jamais, Jamais" This does begin discordantly, with voices, honking things  and whistles (?).  Finally settles in with some woodwinds, and horns at odd intervals, with a male spoken part.  This one actually got my dog’s attention with the horns honking and the whistles, I kid you not.  The feeling to this piece is very bleak to me. 

suitkees:  Kaboom Karavan “Roadmap”  This begins very subtly, with some low, bass sound repeating and discordant strings, almost making a choral sound.  Some very mild percussive sounds kick in with bell-like sounds and some clangy strings.  I get the feeling of a caravan in the distance very much, like what you might hear across some hills as a strange company makes progress from one place to another.  Washboard sounding chanting near the end.  Truly remarkable.  Makes me think of an aural Henry Darger.

Logan:  Marius Popp “Inscriptie”  Here we go to some avant-jazz, with more recognizable instrumentation.  Piano and guitars, moving from a quicker pace into slower, with some synths.  A female(?) voice, mixed back, joins in for a time.  About halfway in, a sax solo commences, then back to the main theme.  The piece concludes with some synth and guitar improv. Janko Nilovic “Giant Locomotion”  Here we kick right off with drums, then vibes and some horns.  Big city feel to this piece, with full horns and sounds of traffic at times.  Sax solo joins with the full horn sections and big drums.  Flute solo with tambourine and more big horns, then some spiky guitar lead, still with all of the forward motion keeping on.  Surprise cello and violin spar with one another (my favourite part!).  Roland Kirk-style flute and horns move this along with strings toward the destination crescendo. 

Lorenzo:  Dissòi Logòi Amptruabat Redamptruabat  In another complete change of pace from the last, this begins with some high flute, solo, treated with mild echo. Joining in at about a minute, it’s underscored by sustained notes on a keyboard, or are they a vocal?  Hand drums and some bells join in with some quiet guitar and meltingly beautiful violin (or is it something like a mizmar?) in a Middle Eastern sort of style.  More flute or ocarina-type instrument, still accompanied by the guitar and some twangy strings as well.  Male vocal and some sustained (backwards?) guitar-type notes.  There are some zils (hand cymbals) way back in the mix. This is fantastic, gotta say.  Gorgeous gypsy-style guitar lead and then some double-picking, with flourishes.  The possibly backwards guitar or violin through effects re-emerges.  Did I say this was fantastic? The flute and guitar double on the same melody and the violin/mizmar thing comes back in an exotic, along with the flute/pipe fluttering about.  Yep, fantastic. 



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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 04:04
Nice to see that Kaboom Karavan's Roadmap is taking people somewhere... :)

There are also some wonderful lengthy pop-outings I was thinking of, like Frankie Goes to Hollywood's Welcome to the Pleasure Dome (13-something minutes) or the Art of Noise's Moments in Love (10 minutes), but these are of course much too well known to put up here...

For a next suggestion, I knew I wanted to propose something by the Belgium artist Kreng (Kaboom Karavan is also from Belgium, btw). In this realm of music (classical-electronic-experimental-cinematic-soundscapy thingies...?) he is one of my favourites. On his first album he relied much on samples, but further on he is introducing more and more acoustic instruments. On a side note: Nils Frahm mastered some of his albums and contributed to some tracks (but by lack of liner-notes I'm not sure on which ones...)
I hesitated between two tracks, but I actually cannot choose... So, very cowardly, I leave that choice up to you, if you wish.

On his album Grimoire (2011) he takes you to a place you actually don't want to go...
Kreng - Wrak (Wreck):



And the next one is from his album The Summoner (2015). On this track he is joined by an ensemble of string players and by the Belgium experimental doom metal band Amenra.
Kreng - The Summoning:






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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 06:19
I have some difficulties finding some things I have in mind on youtube. Is there a preferred alternative source or a recommended place where much music can be found and linked for free? Spotify?


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 07:07
You know that EN have everything on youtube? Approve 
(I was first thinking of putting up Perpetuum Mobile, but now I have already used up my quota...).

Spotify, and other i-tunes and Deezer-like services, impose you to create an account to be able to listen to music there, if I'm not mistaken. If/when it concerns an existing or recent band, than there is bandcamp or soundcloud. Otherwise it might get a bit more difficult... other than putting it up yourself somewhere on the internet and link to it (but then, copyright-thingies and that become an obstacle...).


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 07:14
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

You know that EN have everything on youtube? Approve 
(I was first thinking of putting up Perpetuum Mobile, but now I have already used up my quota...).
 

Sure, and I was thinking about Fiat Lux... but as long as there's enough left, I prefer coming up with bands I haven't used before in these polls.

Thanks for reminding me of bandcamp, I should've thought of them myself, even though I don't find the exact things there I'd have liked to find.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 07:24
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I have some difficulties finding some things I have in mind on youtube. Is there a preferred alternative source or a recommended place where much music can be found and linked for free? Spotify?

I think if you cannot find something on youtube, be it overlooked, obscure or less known, it's not gonna be on spotify. LOL

also, not everyone uses streaming platforms. I don't. So I wouldn't be able to hear the songs you post. 



Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 07:49


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 18:20
First listen continuing, here with suitkee's 2 additions and Mike's and Ronstein's posts:

suitkees:  Kreng “Wrak”  Begins quietly, with a pulsating keys sound, which gradually swells and is accompanied by very spare piano notes.  Tension builds with some discordant sounds, horns/guitars and a disconnected type voice peppering in.  I get the feeling of severe drudgery and toil.  Blatting horns get louder and the sound of maybe chains clattering, the voices aren’t getting any happier. The keyed string sounds wind up alone again, with the dark piano notes.  The piece seems to end, but there are little whispers of something, until it does finally disappear.  Kreng again “The Summoning” Again, this one sneaks up with the sound of distant strings and hollow footsteps (?). Occasional choral type voices softly crop up intermittently.  Another dark dirge piece (which doesn’t bother me in the least, I kind of like dark dirges).    This one is very cinematic in feel. There is a brief pause at the halfway mark, then bass notes with a keyboard wash underneath enters the stage.  Then the dense onslaught of sound arrives, very heavy guitar chords and drums.  Deep screams ensue, then all fades to the keyboards again, with a stray bass note or two, until the piece fades out.

Mike:  Television “Marquee Moon”  As advertised, very punk/NYC sound here.  Minimalist crunchy sound and an impassioned vocalist.  Not a lot of variation in the piece, until the mid-section, where it does keep and hold interest.  The lead guitarist is more complex than is typical with this genre, and to me there are hints of psychedelia to his choice of style and the jam style of the length of it.  They reprise the beginning at the end.  Gomez “Rie’s Wagon”  This one starts out with some wangly noise on guitar, some feedback, then the very bluesy, raspy, almost lazy, vocals enter.  He got hold of some good medicine, doesn’t care about being run over.  Lots of feedback washes and drums, and some harmonica bring forward motion.  Fleet Foxes "Third of May / Odaigahara" This one is very different from the other two here, more of a Waterboys aura about it, but lighter touch on the vocals, which are layered and etheric (nice to hear etheric male vocals).  A bit of a psych-folk feel here, too.  Very back-in-the-mix orchestral touches here and there.  Very dreamy, a reverie sort of piece.  Incidentally, my son’s birthday is 3 May.  The piece ends with drifting off…..

Ronstein:  The Allman Brothers “Mountain Jam”  Very familiar with this one, so won’t vote on it.  Classic Allman Brothers favourite, with a long jam on Donovan’s song “There Is A Mountain.”  A really fun romp.  PS:  It absolutely belongs here, I just have a rule against voting "for" something I already know, in case it's too weighted by familiarity.  Welcome to these polls!  Smile  

 




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 14 2020 at 18:33
Ok, here's one... there will be more later, but this one at least is available on yt. Chances are this won't be my final nomination because it may not that popular around here. If you want, it's the opposite of prog, very smooth and repetitive and with some kind of pop song sound. It is heavily dominated by the sophisticated German lyrics, which probably doesn't help much, but still... I always thought that this is something very special.
Blumfeld - So lebe ich 

English lyrics:

That's How I Live

That's how I live
In my room
A blink of an eye
A time crystal
A song in the dark
A pale shimmer
A small consolation
Not an isolated case
 
At the midpoint
Time subjected
A sheet of paper
A little light
Songs to remember
Breathing means hoping
My body sings
I think of you
 
A second now
We separate worlds
An ache, a rift
A difference
And tenderness
If we hold each other
A certain song
A love song
 
(Chorus:)
That's how my heart beats
It beats in me
Hour after hour
It beats for itself
For you and me
Every second
That's how I live
One of many
Not an isolated case
 
Me on myself
Nothing changes
A sore point
A blind spot
Thank you Satan
I can split myself
A self made man
A double look
 
A mirror game
For thirty years
A thorn boy
A callow youth
From head to toe
With skin and hair
From flesh and blood
Purely external
 
In search of yourself
To relieve the pain
A new sound
A new meaning
I feel guilty
I want to change
A pious wish
No new beginning
 
(Chorus)
 
A new day
No new life
A free market
Makes the world go round
Occupy the niches
Rule the spheres
Govern the night
Share out the money
 
A resistance
By other means
One word, one way
In the first step
In expectation
Through dark steps
A vision comes
And takes me with it
 
In show business
Show emotions
A protest song
By magic
It is so quiet
I speak in silence
A weighty no
From here to the wall
 
(Chorus)
 
That's how I live
To the late hours
A weak picture
A cataract
A music man
Makes his rounds
A flight, a circumstance
A new Year
 
A white horse
A black bird
At a dead end
With a clown
A nothing, a nobody
At night and fog
A winter light
A world trust
 
I need you
And can show it
We are close
And yet so far away
Love is possible
Between both of us
I will call you
I love you


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 10:38
The Allman Brothers clip first looked like it had been deleted, but it seems it plays anyway. Weird.

Television - "Marquee Moon": I know that one too well, so I can't judge it on the same level as the other songs. Therefore I can't vote for it, but it is an amazing track. Especially the solo part!


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 14:24
I couldn't find exactly what I wanted to play by the genius Meredith Monk, but she has some other excellent stuff... much of it is either less than 8 minutes or more than 20, but there's this, so heartwarming to see good music like this done over the internet in 2020. "Anthem", for the impatient it starts at 0:40.



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 14:42
mathman0806
Death Cab for Cutie - I Will Possess Your Heart. Very minimalistic. It's build around a repeated bass riff. Builds gradually thanks to the other instruments, untill the singing finally sets in. Before that I thought it would be an instrumental piece, so the song manages to surprise me which is a positive thing. Pleasant listening experience, and it's quite bold of them to have such a long intro.

Curtis Mayfield - (Don't Worry) If There Is a Hell Below, We're All Going to Go has a rather uncanny intro, after that it turns into an early 70's soul/funk thing reminiscent of Marvin Gaye or some of the Norman Whitfield / Barrett Strong compositions for the Temptations. Reading up on the song, it turns out it was released one year before the What's Going On album, but it clearly shares a similar spirit and topic. It's not entirely in the same league as Marvin Gaye, but I like it nevertheless.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 14:43
There are still leading top bands of my universe that I haven't played in any of these polls, that are probably reasonably unknown, and fit the theme, incredible! Tied and Tickled Trio have waited a long time for the occasion to appear and here it is. Unfortunately once more not quite the track I wanted to play, but once more they have enough good stuff on the web, so I go with Other Voices Other Rooms.



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 15:12
Cristi
Light Field Reverie - All Roads Lead Home starts as a rather dark synth-driven track. It's not in a style I usually listen to, but it's clearly not uninteresting. Later it becomes more metallic. Melodically it's very much centered on the same 3-4 notes, and there is not much variation in the chords either (are there more than 3). But I guess it lies in the style.

W.A.S.P - The Idol. Short non-musical intro. Then follows a rather late 80's sounding begining (the lead guitar in particular). Turns out it's from 1993. Later comes a solo that sounds quite a lot like the outro solo of "Comfortably Numb". Only knowing the band by name, I didn't really know what to expect. Again it's not so much my taste. Production-wise I notice the bass is very low in the mix. The outro ("Johnny, it's showtime") makes me understand why the solo sounds so much like that of "Comfortably Numb". I guess they are purposely referencing The Wall?

David Brubeck Quartett - All the Things You Are. We are closer to my taste here. I am not exactly a jazz expert, so I don't know if I can say anything really intelligent about it. But I really like it nevertheless. The sound mix is a bit muddy which is a shame as many musical details get lost, and in jazz the small subtle details really make a difference.


Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 18:09
I have been listening to Karl Seglem today mainly because I was back into jazz this week. He has done quite a few segments over 8 mins through the years. I decided on this one since it is quite interesting and crosses over two or more genres of music. 




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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 19:05
Getting up to the minute here with first listens:  

Lewian:  Blumfeld “So lebe ich”  Acoustic guitar strumming, then keys and drums set the pace.  Vocals come right in, there are subtle changes within the verses, in terms of how he sings the notes for the words.  Chorus includes some nice orchestral backing.  Well crafted song with thoughtful lyrics, in the end, he finds that he wants connection and love with another.  Meredith Monk & Vocal Ensemble and Alarm Will Sound “Anthem”  Begins with sounding like being in a studio setting (and so it is, when I leave my document and look at the video).  Woodwinds start, then abruptly end, where piano comes in.  I like that it takes it’s time, with the various musicians quietly entering.  There are also vibes first played with a bow, then in the more traditional way.  Some  quiet vocalization begins (and is joined from time to time by others) and flute accompanies here, then reeds, then violins and cellos.  This is very sophisticated, hypnotic and lovely music, with a feeling of the divine.  Tied & Tickled Trio “Other Voices, Other Rooms.”  This is more modern sounding to my ear than the last, with bells or vibes, snap sounds and a couple of repetitive other noises at first, then some organ-style keys.  The pace picks up a bit with some clanks and beeps, kind of an upbeat sense here.  I get the feeling almost of traveling, like this could be a soundtrack while the protagonist in a film looks out a train window at a bleak landscape going by.  The piece eventually drops back to just the vibes again, then the organ sound, then back to the vibes and a sort of clinky glass sound, before concluding..  

tigerfeet:  Karl Seglem “Springar fra fjord” Welcome to these polls, tigerfeet!  Begins with violins (or maybe nyckelharpa?)  and a drum sound, kind of like a tabor.  Then the sounds get more full, is there guitar or the like underlying?  Flutes or whistles kick in, this is quite enjoyable to my ear.  Much more of a world music feel than I was expecting from your intro.  Saxophone comes in, soloing.  The first note or two, almost echoes the sound of a bagpipe, as it moves from the more world sound into jazz realm with drums and organ or piano underlay.  Becomes more experimental in feel as it gets deeper into the piece.  There is a bit of a duet with I’m not sure what instrument, but then kicks back in with violin or nyckelharpa and back we go to the world music.  Lovely!

Wow! Great bunch of selections thus far!  



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Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 19:52
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Getting up to the minute here with first listens:  

tigerfeet:  Karl Seglem “Springar fra fjord” Welcome to these polls, tigerfeet!  Begins with violins (or maybe nyckelharpa?)  and a drum sound, kind of like a tabor.  Then the sounds get more full, is there guitar or the like underlying?  Flutes or whistles kick in, this is quite enjoyable to my ear.  Much more of a world music feel than I was expecting from your intro.  Saxophone comes in, soloing.  The first note or two, almost echoes the sound of a bagpipe, as it moves from the more world sound into jazz realm with drums and organ or piano underlay.  Becomes more experimental in feel as it gets deeper into the piece.  There is a bit of a duet with I’m not sure what instrument, but then kicks back in with violin or nyckelharpa and back we go to the world music.  Lovely!

Wow! Great bunch of selections thus far!  


Hi Snicollette - its nice to be back. Karl Seglem is a really well known Norwegian musician. He is particularly know for Jazz fused with traditional Scandinavian music. It sounds like they are playing various traditional Scandinavian instruments on this track. It may well be a nyckelharpa and those kind of buckskin drums (almost like a heavy tambourine without the bottle tops). I only recently got into his catalog and there is a lot in there to chew on. He apparently plays a bukkehorn (Billy Goat Horn) and not on this track of course. There are not many people who can play it. 

For those interested, here is a link to him playing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RdnlKfW8kc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RdnlKfW8kc

Or this one - there's lots on youtube 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCzUggDtIaE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCzUggDtIaE

This was the drum i had in mind but dont think they used it on that track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPqKAuzo0tk&list=RDdCzUggDtIaE&index=10" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPqKAuzo0tk&list=RDdCzUggDtIaE&index=10



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 22:58
I will enjoy looking at those links, thank you!

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 15 2020 at 23:25
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Cristi
Light Field Reverie - All Roads Lead Home starts as a rather dark synth-driven track. It's not in a style I usually listen to, but it's clearly not uninteresting. Later it becomes more metallic. Melodically it's very much centered on the same 3-4 notes, and there is not much variation in the chords either (are there more than 3). But I guess it lies in the style.

W.A.S.P - The Idol. Short non-musical intro. Then follows a rather late 80's sounding begining (the lead guitar in particular). Turns out it's from 1993. Later comes a solo that sounds quite a lot like the outro solo of "Comfortably Numb". Only knowing the band by name, I didn't really know what to expect. Again it's not so much my taste. Production-wise I notice the bass is very low in the mix. The outro ("Johnny, it's showtime") makes me understand why the solo sounds so much like that of "Comfortably Numb". I guess they are purposely referencing The Wall?

David Brubeck Quartett - All the Things You Are. We are closer to my taste here. I am not exactly a jazz expert, so I don't know if I can say anything really intelligent about it. But I really like it nevertheless. The sound mix is a bit muddy which is a shame as many musical details get lost, and in jazz the small subtle details really make a difference.

the first Brubeck video posted has better sound quality, if it works for you. 

WASP's song is from their 1992 concept album called The Crimson Idol. The theme of the album is the fallen rock star, like Nickie pointed out in her comment. This song summarizes the album nicely. 

Light Field Reverie is an interesting project by the female vocalist of Swedish doom metal band Draconian. The doom is still present here, but it's a new take on the genre with the keys driven atmosphere. That's why I thought of it and posted it and obviously because the singing is excellent, too.Tongue


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 04:08
Out of competition:

These songs are two of my favorites ever:

Bruce Springsteen: New York City Serenade



Bruce Springsteen: Jungle land

https://youtu.be/JR_0nbEzVdY

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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 05:57
Sorry for my absence on the previous poll, Mike. I didn't think I'd have time to listen to the contenders so I didn't participate, to be fair.

Anyway, as usual around this time, I'm in a classical mood. I thought I'd share this gorgeous piece of music I discovered:



Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 06:27


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 08:28
Easy Money
Isac Hayes - Something begins with a piano intro. Then enters a soul arrangement complete with strings, brass and wah-wah. It's clearly an original take on the song, f.e. by having "I don't want to leave her now" as the first words that are sung. I like it a lot. We even get one of my favourite chords, the dim-chord (diminished chord), for some of the breaks. Prog soul?


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 08:46
suitkees
Kaboom Karavan - Roadmap. We're in the more experimental electronic area here and thus in a genre that really fascinates me. A deep repeated sound seems to make a rhythmic base of sorts whereas the cacophonic soundscape makes me think of a market place somewhere in the Middle East. There's also some jazzy drumming. It feels rather ominous with the drone-like sounds that gradually are setting in. The track is approximately 8 minutes long, but it feels much shorter, and for my sake it could have gone on for 8 more minutes. Very interesting piece of music in any case, and I like it a lot.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 09:05
@snicolette: Wonderfully detailed comments, thanks.The train travel image for Tied and Tickled Trio resonates strongly with me.

@Metldowner: Nice to have you back!

Little time for listening as of now, sorry... quite a lot of work to do before things wind down.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 09:23
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:



 

By the way, not sure whether anyone's interested, but Blumfeld are another band from my hometown Hamburg, and the face of drummer Andre Rattay (on the right of the photo) looks like he could be from my family - probably more like my brother or one of my cousins than like me, but anyway, there's surely a similarity, although I don't know of any relation.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 09:46
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Sorry for my absence on the previous poll, Mike. I didn't think I'd have time to listen to the contenders so I didn't participate, to be fair.


No problem.  I understand the time issue as there have been many times lately that I want to participate more, but my intentions don't always work with life.  Anyway, glad to see you back!


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 13:09
Logan
Marius Popp - "Inscriptie": My first thought after listening to the first minute or so was that this should belong in the jazz/rock fusion section. There are clearly some prog elements in it too (there's even a Mellotron at some point if I am not mistaken), so I am surprised it is not on Progarchives. Nice Fender Rhodes, and there are some quite adventurous chord changes which I really like.

Janko Nilovic - "Giant Locomotion" is another jazz fusion thing. It has some funk elements too. It's main theme being built on a bass riff. A rather odd thing is the apparent sound of a motorcycle going between the left and right channel. From 4:50 there's a string quartet all of a suden, playing a variation on the main theme; it sounds a bit heavy. The quartet is probably my favourite part, and it makes a surprising contrast.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 13:50
Geo:  I love that Death Cab for Cutie song, but I am a big fan of the band already and have it in my collection, I'm way to familiar with it.  I wasn't so familiar with the Curtis Mayfield track though and found it to be quite original and interesting.

Cristi:  All Roads Lead Home.  Great track, but I tend to lose interest after about 5 minutes.  I will have to listen to it a few more times.  The WASP track is also great as it is a move away from the commercial hair metal that I am more familiar with from the band.  However, it is tough to support such a long track with the style, at least for me.  I have been a Brubeck fan for years.  I'm not as familiar with that track however, so it's new to me.

Easy Money (John):  Excellent version and take on the Beatles track.  It stays engaging all the way through for me.  

Anders:  Love this contemporary classical music, especially the vocal parts, the dissonance, the free form feel of it all.  The honking brass pissed off my wife a bit, but I loved it.

Kees:  I really enjoyed the Roadmap track and found it quite intriguing, but I have to hear it a few more times to let it sink in.

Logan:  Two great tracks here, both of which could be top contenders, but my favorite is the Janko Nilovic track once again.  You have really got me hooked on this album.  It's everything I love, a bit challenging but not obnoxious or reckless, tight and yet loose at the same time.  Great stuff.

Lorenzo:  Ampatrumpet Ramalamatrumpet.  Okay I know that's not the right title, and I can't even begin to say how to pronounce it or what it means, however, the music speaks the exact right language to me.  This is another top contender for me.  I love the versatility throughout.  The compositional structure is perfect.  Love it.

That's as far as I got so far.  I hope I can continue with the rest later today or tomorrow. 




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Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 17:16
Mathman - 1. DCFC - This one is right up my alley as they say. 2. Curtis Mayfield was a good one too with this track having that feel of R&B of that time.

Cristi 1. All Roads Lead Home - i liked the synth and 90s edge to it kind of New Age sound but better -
2. The Idol gave me a Peter Gabriel meets Guns & Roses vibe for some reason. 

Easy Money - Isaac Hayes - Had never heard this version of this song so thanks. 

Anders - Je Ne Me - I loved the take on the instruments tuning up and some being bullied. There was either a whole big party going on or they were all kids running around out of control. That whistle got some attention. 

Suitkees - Roadmap - Very trance inducing and interesting.

Logan - Maruis Popp - I am into this as of late and genre fusion or however you are supposed to describe it. My fav so far. Giant Locomotion - Gotta love big band style with such a rich texture.

JamesBaldwin - Dissòi Logòi: Amptruabat Redamptruabat - As usual something that would throw me off my chair - Beautiful with space to think in there. It almost had a far eastern charm.

Snicollette - Quicksilver - Never saw them live but they had that sound of the late 60s down even more so than the doors.

Cristi (2) - Dave Brubeck - This was the only track i knew from all these nominations and know it well since i worked with a person many years ago who played his stuff every day as well as big band tunes. 

TCat - Television - This was a great find for me as i hardly listened to Television at that time or after. 

Fleet Foxes - Another band i have never heard of and wish i had. They have an original and fresh sound 

Suitkees (2) - Wrak & Amenra - How haunting and mesmerizing. Dark moody stuff for both choices. 

Rontein - Allman Bros - Mountain Jam - Good solid nominee and something i will get back into soon. 

Lewian - Blumfeld - Interesting choice - Excellent lyrics and almost great that its in German as the vocals become like another instrument to me as i read them. 2. Meredith Monk - What can i say - whole thing was Captivating! 3. Tie Tickle Trio - Just very good :)

Meltdowner - Ravel - This one hit the spot as I was feeling stressed and calmed my evening. 

Hrychu - PuD, Ailsean, Flik, C. Engstrom, Wild_Cat - Excitebike etc. - Bike Kid

Well that one woke me up from the earlier track - rather apocalyptic and current considering it was well the 80s and everything was just peachy for everyone Wink ...  Wow, this one was just awesome! 



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 16 2020 at 18:02
Two very different first takes to be up to the minute:

Samuel:  Nice to see you back! Krystian Zimerman The Cleveland Orchestra  Pierre Boulez “Ravel: Piano Concerto in G Major, M. 83 - 2. Adagio assai”  Just beautiful.  I don’t know if I’ve heard this particular version or not, but am a big fan of Ravel’s works.  Solo piano is joined after a time with flute, with the orchestra very quiet in the background, then back to piano, with is more up in the mix than previously.  The piano continues and the orchestra swells underneath.  Flute returns for a bit.  This just goes by so quickly for me, doesn’t feel at all like over 9 minutes.  So subtle and gorgeous. 

Hyrchu:  Also good to see you back!  PuD, Ailsean, Flik, C. Engstrom, Wild_Cat  “Excitebike etc. - Bike Kid: The Musical (Team 80s)”  Spoken vocals first then goes into 80’s style drums and vocals, with some operatic singer as well.  Lots of 80’s music referenced in this.    Not sure what to call it, but it’s definitely different than anything else yet in this poll. 




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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 09:05
jamesbaldwin
Dissòi Logòi: Amptruabat Redamptruabat. It begins with a flute or whistle playing some glissando notes. Then a drone sets in, and when it fades out, we get a 7/8 beat with different percussion instruments. The beat continues throughout the track as a sort of motor. Enter an acoustic guitar and a solo instrument I can't recognise (a bit bagpipe-like perhaps). The flute/whistle takes over, and later it's the guitar's turn to play solo. There is also some wordless singing in the background. The overall feeling is a bit new age-like to me, and as such not so much my taste.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 10:50
Snicolette
Quicksilver Messenger Service - "The Fool". Like with W.A.S.P., I knew this band only by name, but I had quite an idea of what to expect since they are referred to as psychedelic rock. The intro is somewhat dissonant, later there's a brief section with some slightly jazzy chords, but most of the time the chords are more typical rock-like. We're in the more edgy corner of psychedelic music, especially due to the lead guitar which is up front most of the time. At times there are some (purposely) false notes too. After 7 minutes the singing begins; until then I actually thought it was an entirely instrumental piece. The atmosphere is dreamy, f.e. with a lot of maj7 chords (and some with a lower 7th too). I can visualize them playing for an audience of people lying on the floor while stoned on cannabis or acid. However, there's also a dark touch to the music, and in some parts of the song I almost thought of the Velvet Underground.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 10:55

Here are the remaining selections that I couldn't get to yesterday.  There are some really great entries once again....

Nickie:  Quicksilver Messenger Service is one of those bands that I have wanted to get into for a lot of years now, but only owned one album and never found the time to check them out further.  This track is excellent, a nice combination of psychedelia and folk with enough surprises to keep me engaged throughout.  Excellent choice that will once again bring my attention back to them.

 Ronstein:  I’ve heard this epic track so many times that I have it memorized in my head.  Thus, it would be difficult for me to give it a vote since it is so well known and would be unfair in my case to the entries I have never heard before. 

 Lewian:  Always the one to surprise and inspire.  I wasn’t really taken by the Blumfeld track as I find it a bit too common sounding.  However the Meridith Monk track moved me to tears.  I remember in my school days, the first time I heard Ravel’s “Bolero” which was played for the class along with the video of the orchestra.  I was amazed at how a group made up of so many individuals could come together with one intent, to create their rendition of this masterpiece, and how much restraint each member of the orchestra has to be to make this composition work so well (the constant crescendo makes it difficult for many to restrain themselves from speeding up the tempo).  I have the same feelings when I watched this video with Monk and her vocal ensemble, etc.  This time, however, it’s so much more powerful that all of these individuals that are separated by distance can bring themselves together with the single purpose of creating this absorbing piece of music.  It just solidifies the fact that music is the one thing that can bring us all together with a single purpose.  I love it!  The Tied and Tickled Trio was also interesting.  I would like to have heard the track(s) you wanted to post, but this one is still quite good.

 Tigerfeet:  Great nickname by the way.  Did you get it from that Mud song of the same name?  The Karl Seglem track is another excellent choice and I love the way it easily flits from a folkish style to a contemporary style back to folk again.  Not only that, the stylistic changes between the instruments is quite brilliant.

 Samuel:  Ravel is one of my favorite classical artists/composers.  Of course, I mentioned him under my comments to Lewian.  Just when I think I’ve heard everything from him, something like this comes along that I’m not that familiar with.  Ravel has this way of painting pictures with his music, using accidentals in chords and passages like no one else before him did.  When I hear his music, I can so easily get lost in how it just so beautifully expressive it is, every note is important, yet it flows so easily even when it’s dissonant.  This selection is quite beautiful, and, as usual for Ravel, utilizes dynamics perfectly.  In concertos, usually the composer can feel pressured to bring in the orchestra quickly in a piece, so it’s also great how Ravel takes his sweet time to bring in the orchestra, and when it comes in, it just feels so natural.  Great choice.

 Hrychu:  Bike Kid is an interesting conglomeration turned rock opera sounding track utilizing sounds and styles from the 80s and 90s, even taking riffs and melodies from many popular songs throughout and turning it into this somewhat funny and wild track.  The song definitely holds your interest throughout as you want to hear what happens next or where the music goes as it travels through it’s scenes.  The question is, how does it fare in the long run?  It’s quite fascinating the first time around, but will it keep it’s appeal for me after the next few listens?  If nothing else, it’s a lot of fun.



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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 11:12
Since this the last poll of the year, I will keep open for another week for people to nominate and suggest tunes with voting to start around Christmas. Sound okay?


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 12:20
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Since this the last poll of the year, I will keep open for another week for people to nominate and suggest tunes with voting to start around Christmas. Sound okay?



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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 15:01
Out of competition:

Dear friends, as you know, I am a fan of Bruce Springsteen, expecially of his production of the Seventies and Eighties.

Two of my favorites songs are:

New York City Serenade and Jungleland.

So, if you didn't know these songs, you could listen to them: they are great.


New York City Serenade


Jungleland:





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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 15:02
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Had to go psychedelic here.  "The Fool," by Quicksilver Messenger Service, 1968, clocks in at 12:13.  No fooling, in June of 1968, my sisters and I were driving across the Golden Gate at sunrise and this song came on KSAN. Never forgot it.

 

Oh, well, I love this song but I love the band.

Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

So many to choose from.  Where do I start?

I would think a lot of you might know this one.  If you don't, you probably should as it was missed by everyone when it came out in 1977 and now it is now considered a classic, a precursor to the New Wave/Punk craze, even though it is over 10 minutes long.  The build-up in the middle instrumental section is awesome.  I thought it was in the Archives, but after searching, I couldn't find it, so here it is.....

Television - "Marquee Moon"




Well, Mike, you have posted Marquee Moon, I am a fan of Television, this Cd is in my car 2 or 3 months a year, I listen to it about 20-30 times every year...


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 16:49
TCat
Television - "Marquee Moon": Again, I know it too well, so it won't be a contender for my votes, but amazing song - and solo!

Gomez - "Rie's Wagon": Starts with some guitar feedback. After some seconds, the bands sets ind. The feeling is very bluesy, especially the singing, and there's a minimalistic and stripped down production. Judging by the sound aesthetics it is recorded some time in the 90's methinks, or alternately the early 00's. Not the type of music I listen to the most, but I like what I hear, especially as we get to the dissonant and edgy solo part (which ends very abruptly). I would also like to praise the chorus which is very catchy.

Fleet Foxes - "Third of May / Odaigahara" is quite a change towards a lighter mood. Something in the melody makes me think of the 60's. The low-pitched male ooh-voices in the middle are very interesting. Approximately 5 ½ minutes into the song, there's a surprising change of mood and tempo. The music becomes mostly acoustic except for some discreet electronic sounds. Then follows quite a proggy section with a mysterious atmosphere, and so the song ends. Absolutely an interesting piece of music, but I think it requires some more listenings. I think I might have heard the band once at the Roskilde Festival in Denmark many years ago, but I am not sure.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 17:25
suitkees (part 2)
Kreng - "Wrak": The sound is almost inaudible in the beginning, but there's a very slow fade in. The  plain piano chords are contrasted by a totally cacophonic soundscape of dissonant noises. Some sort of machines? I can imagine it as the music for a horror film, because the atmosphere is quite frightening. Maybe it is also a bit pinkfloydish? The music fades out as slowly as it faded in, but after the fade out, the track continues with some barely audible sounds. It requires your full attention. Very interesting piece which I really enjoyed listening to.

"The Summoning": Another one that begins with almost no sound (perhaps because of that, I actually had to turn the sound symbol on after starting the clip, the sound was blocked - I had the same problem with "Wrak"). The fade in this time is very long. Even after 4 minutes, the music is still very quiet, and since the track involves a doom metal band, I actually expect to be totally shocked by a sudden outburst of loudness (you know, like the fortissimo beginning of the 4th movement in Mahler's 1st symphony after the slow "Frère Jacques" movement). So far it has not happened, but an electric bass has entered the sound. The bass figure sounds a bit floydish, as do the keyboards. After 9 minutes the band finally arrives, but the sound is still quiet. Is it still a calm before the storm, or is it simply the sound in the clip that isn't any louder? After the 13th minute the band section ends, so it appears there is not loud shock after all. The music ends with the bass riff, and it is a relief not to have my ears blown off all of a sudden. Interesting piece of music in any case.

NB: I wrote this while listening, so the words reflect my spontaneous thoughts while not knowing what comes next.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 17 2020 at 18:27
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

TCat
Television - "Marquee Moon": Again, I know it too well, so it won't be a contender for my votes, but amazing song - and solo!

Gomez - "Rie's Wagon": Starts with some guitar feedback. After some seconds, the bands sets ind. The feeling is very bluesy, especially the singing, and there's a minimalistic and stripped down production. Judging by the sound aesthetics it is recorded some time in the 90's methinks, or alternately the early 00's. Not the type of music I listen to the most, but I like what I hear, especially as we get to the dissonant and edgy solo part (which ends very abruptly). I would also like to praise the chorus which is very catchy.

Fleet Foxes - "Third of May / Odaigahara" is quite a change towards a lighter mood. Something in the melody makes me think of the 60's. The low-pitched male ooh-voices in the middle are very interesting. Approximately 5 ½ minutes into the song, there's a surprising change of mood and tempo. The music becomes mostly acoustic except for some discreet electronic sounds. Then follows quite a proggy section with a mysterious atmosphere, and so the song ends. Absolutely an interesting piece of music, but I think it requires some more listenings. I think I might have heard the band once at the Roskilde Festival in Denmark many years ago, but I am not sure.

Thanks for the comments Anders.  As far as the time these were recorded, "Rie's Wagon" is on Gomez's 2nd album recorded in 1998.  Fleet Foxes actually released their 1st album (an EP) in 2006.  The track I featured is off of their 2017 album "Crack-Up".  


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 02:21
Thanks all for the feedback. It is as always nice to read the comments on the different (mine and others') contributions.

@Mike: it seems you missed my two Kreng entries... (or you hated them so much that you didn't want to talk about it, but I actually think you might like them... ;)

Will have more time this weekend to comment on everything, but a first listen was very pleasant.


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 09:49
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Thanks all for the feedback. It is as always nice to read the comments on the different (mine and others') contributions.

@Mike: it seems you missed my two Kreng entries... (or you hated them so much that you didn't want to talk about it, but I actually think you might like them... ;)

Will have more time this weekend to comment on everything, but a first listen was very pleasant.

Kees:  Sorry about that but I did listen to them after I had posted that first set of comments.  I don't really know how I missed them in the comments though.  Sorry about that oversight.  I do remember "Wrak" quite succinctly however as I was really impressed with that one which was much darker and interesting and contrary to what you said on that posting, it did take me to a place that I wanted the music to go.  There is no way I hated them, it was just a stupid oversight on my part.  I was impressed enough however with "Wrak" that I would definitely put it among one of the best of the entries.  The 3rd one I need to listen to a couple more times, so that will probably change, but after the first listen, it didn't quite match up to the power of the 2nd one, even though it had some impressive cinematic qualities to it.  

I have been a victim of oversight for my entries in the past also, but I just figured that it was simply an oversight.  Now it comes around to bite me in the butt LOL


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 10:36
^ Ah, you know, I have been crying all day because of it... But no need to do that awkward gymnastic exercise, it might give you pain in the neck... LOL
Jokes aside, I thought you might like it, so I was just curious, and I'm glad I was not mistaken about that. Thanks for the comment.



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 10:51
The feedback is always of interest and for those who have the time, it is so eloquently done.  Sometimes it has made me listen to something in a way I haven't heard it before.  In particular, Mike, I loved the writeup you did on the Ravel piece, it was so very descriptive of the music, I could hear it once again in my mind's ear as I read your thoughts on it.  

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 11:14
One of my favorite things..Snicolette posted Quicksilver so here's Buffalo Springfield...as far as I know not on cd anywhere... only on this double vinyl which I have a copy of.





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 11:26
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

One of my favorite things..Snicolette posted Quicksilver so here's Buffalo Springfield...as far as I know not on cd anywhere... only on this double vinyl which I have a copy of.
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Excellent choice!!!!!Smile

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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 15:47
Ronstein
The Allman Brothers Band - "Mountain Jam": The main theme, if there is such a thing, is a guitar duet - something which I recognize from several other Allman Brothers tracks. Personally I find it a bit hard to sit through this music with my headphones on (which is what I do because I don't want to disturb my neighbours); I guess you have to be there at the actual gig to really get the essence of it. But maybe I just have to listen to it some more times. In any case it's a pleasant listening experience. A bit too pleasant perhaps. Thankfully the track is not built on a 12 bar blues.

Favourite parts include the duel between the two drummers (halfway) and the bass solo (without guitars and keyboard).


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 17:45
Lewian
Blumfeld - "So lebe ich": I guess it won't come as a big surprise, but I like this a lot! A big reason is of course the lyrics which are very poetic and which I am somehow touched by. I may not always get what they are trying to say, but it doesn't matter - they are open for interpretation which is great, and the musicality of the words means a lot too. But it is obvious the there is some societal criticism present. The lyrics are accompanied by some rather gloomy and monotonous music. One could argue that a song of this length needs a little more development, for instance with regards to the arrangement - it doesn't have to be big contrasts, small details often have just as huge an impact. On the other hand, the musical atmosphere fits the lyrics very well.

Meredith Monk - "Anthem": Now this is obviously something very different. An interactive song recorded in the shade of Covid-19. A brave thing to do. It has a somewhat impressionistic touch to it. It could also be described as electronica for non-electronic instruments. Very beautiful. I somehow come to think of the track "Subterraneans" from David Bowie's Low album, among other things because of the singing voices.

Tied and Tickled Trio - "Other Voices Other Rooms" is another track that appeals to me. The composition is interesting, repeating the same 12 bars over and over again, but with small tiny differens so that the music builds a tension very slowly. After 3 miuntes there's a change of mood to a sort of "break" section, during which a drumkit enters the sound. At the same time there are these ominous pling-plong sounds. Then comes a section with the glockenspiel as the musical base.

Don't know if I can choose a favourite among those three. I really enjoy all of them, but there isn't so much music like the Blumfeld song in the lineup, so I believe it would make a nice contrast.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 18 2020 at 17:46
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

One of my favorite things..Snicolette posted Quicksilver so here's Buffalo Springfield...as far as I know not on cd anywhere... only on this double vinyl which I have a copy of.

Video removed for space


Just had a chance to listen, have not heard that in years.  We used to have the LP, but no more.  I had the great privilege of seeing this original line-up rehearsing at Stephen Stills' home in Encino back in 1986, one of my favourite things that I ever got to do, working in "the business."  He did a really similar kind of thing just jamming with Neil on a song (just verbal scatting).  


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 10:06
tigerfeet
Karl Seglem - "Springar frå fjord". We're in the area of Nordic folk music here. At least so it begins with a violin (or is it a hardingsfele?). It is counterpointed by an electric base and rhythmic percussion instruments and later a saxophone. From around 4:00 the folk section ends, and we get a sort of rock comp to a sax solo. Wit h the heavy drumming it is almost a bit metal-like, just without guitars. The folk violin re-enters around 8:00, and so the song ends. Very nice track that I really enjoyed listening to. The folk section is my favourite part since I have a sort spot for many kinds of folk music.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 10:25
Meltdowner
Ravel - Piano concerto in G-major, 2nd movement: I often attend classical concerts, especially the local symphony orchestra in Aarhus where I live, and I have heard this piece performed there several times. Not enough to know it by heart though. But the first minutes without the orchestra are unearthly beautiful. When the orchestra sets in, the feeling almost resembles that of a Mozart adagio (indeed Ravel claimed to be inspired by the slow movement of Mozart's clarinet quintet), and some of the harmonic changes are quite classicist. Of course it has the twist of 20th Century classical music to it with a touch of atonality now and then. Towards the end (with the cor anglais) it becomes less classicist.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 11:58
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

One of my favorite things..Snicolette posted Quicksilver so here's Buffalo Springfield...as far as I know not on cd anywhere... only on this double vinyl which I have a copy of.

Video removed for space


Just had a chance to listen, have not heard that in years.  We used to have the LP, but no more.  I had the great privilege of seeing this original line-up rehearsing at Stephen Stills' home in Encino back in 1986, one of my favourite things that I ever got to do, working in "the business."  He did a really similar kind of thing just jamming with Neil on a song (just verbal scatting).  

I'm very jealous....Springfield, Stills, Young, etc are some of my very favorite musicians .
All the various incarnations back then are worth having in one's collection.
Can you tell the story of how you were able to hear the Stills jam...?


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 12:27
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:


Just had a chance to listen, have not heard that in years.  We used to have the LP, but no more.  I had the great privilege of seeing this original line-up rehearsing at Stephen Stills' home in Encino back in 1986, one of my favourite things that I ever got to do, working in "the business."  He did a really similar kind of thing just jamming with Neil on a song (just verbal scatting).  

I'm very jealous....Springfield, Stills, Young, etc are some of my very favorite musicians .
All the various incarnations back then are worth having in one's collection.
Can you tell the story of how you were able to hear the Stills jam...?
  It is a bit of a story, as a couple of things are linked together.  So bear with me.  Smile

Our bus company actually started as an artist management company, Geordie Hormel, who owned The Village Recorder, needed someone and Dewey Martin and Bruce Palmer had been working with the person who Geordie had asked to leave (as he was ripping Geordie off), with the potential of a Buffalo Springfield reunion.  My (now ex) husband knew Dewey and had met Geordie a couple of times, so we had a meeting with him and he let us take over.  

My ex had mostly been a concert promoter in the past and knew everyone from those days in management in LA.  We put the "Buffalo Springfield Revisited," on a small club tour (Neil sanctioned the name and this was to give Bruce and Dewey a living until the reunion was possible....they'd both sold their rights to the name to him, so he had majority holding of the name in the band).  They did a pretty great tribute offering, finding a guy who was really good at mimicking both Stephen's and Neil's vocals and they had a very capable guitarist and keyboardist on board as well...

The tour bus owner, who lived in New Orleans, heard that Geordie Hormel was "looking for a fleet of tour buses," (total rumour) and said he'd wanted to set up an LA office, would Geordie be interested?  We made a commission on the buses we leased, and, eventually grew into our own company.  Since the ex knew everyone, our first two tours, starting in Dec 1986 were Madonna and Duran Duran and the company grew like crazy.  So the original band did rehearse, once, for several days and we were allowed in, being Bruce and Dewey's managers.  The guy who filmed it signed a document saying he wouldn't release the film until after the reunion.  After Bruce and Dewey died, before the "reunion," at Bonnaroo, there are now clips of it on YT.  At the time of the rehearsal, they'd been asked by MTV to do 3 songs at one of their summer break shows, for a cool million $.  

It was absolutely a huge thrill for me, they were and are one of my favourite bands of all time.  It is sad that they never did get everyone back together again after that rehearsal, Bruce and Dewey did make a great rhythm section and they were both also characters and fun to work with.


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 13:38
Your nice comments on Blumfeld, Meredith Monk and Tied & Tickled Trio really warmed my heart. One thing that surprises me is that nobody has yet written that they know Meredith Monk... I mean she's not super-prominent, but I thought that she is something of a secret star, very secret indeed... (of course you haven't said you didn't know her either, but normally the "I know this" shout is louder, dunno). If you indeed didn't know her and like the linked track, start exploring her catalogue - it's quite rich and she has her trademark sound that is clearly to hear on that track. On the other hand everyone including myself seems to know Marquee Moon (which is a great little indie epic by the way), wouldn't have expected that either (although it is clear that this is not obscure). I also know the Allmans of course, but not this particular recording - they do what they're best at there and hardly anyone else is better than them at this.

I haven't listened to the end yet and unfortunately, due to work commitments and deadlines before X-mas, I hear most stuff while doing other things, but I have already discovered some really great stuff (of course many have played to my experimental side). Just to mention a few:
Death Cab for Cutie - I love how this gets more and more intense, I could happily listen to it for even longer.
Roadmap - Of course I was going to like this... I'm very predictable, am I not? Same comment for Wrak and The Summoning, this comment doesn't really say anything about the music, I know, but all three of these are of the kind that I'd immerdiately marry, errr, buy.
Gomez - I have one of their albums and find it so-so - I became aware of them because they were managed by Comsat Angels' Stephen Fellows (frontman of one of my absolute favourite bands). Now this one is much more like it - they put more in it, more experiment and surprises, and I like the general atmosphere/
Dissoi Logoi - good relaxed sound and great musicality - reminds me of some of Didier Malherbe's stuff.
Giant Locomotion: Played with so much passion and energy, no way not to love this.

More later.

PS: Some of this stuff has got to be put on PA, no?


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 13:52
^ Re Meredith Monk, she was very well known in the SF bay area when I lived there in the 90s. I think I played a show where a group I was in opened for her performance, but it has been a long time.
KPFA public radio was big on promoting her.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 13:55
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:


Gomez - I have one of their albums and find it so-so - I became aware of them because they were managed by Comsat Angels' Stephen Fellows (frontman of one of my absolute favourite bands). Now this one is much more like it - they put more in it, more experiment and surprises, and I like the general atmosphere/


Gomez is one of those bands that have a good number of albums out, but it's a sort of hit and miss affair with them, I have found.  They have some great things and some that are more so-so like you said.  I'm still in the process of going through their discography, but as I go along, their music is always interesting enough to keep exploring when I find gems like the one I posted.

I agree that I need to also explore Meredith Monk's music as I absolutely love the track you posted.  I don't know her music unfortunately, but I intend to change that now.


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 14:09
Since we have more time added to this poll, I hope no one minds if I add a couple more.  If you don't have the time to listen to them, no problem, but I really wanted to post these other two to see your reactions.

Going to the jazzier side of things here is Mingus Big Band - "Moanin' "



And finally an art pop band.  of Montreal - "No Conclusion"




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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 14:32
Hrychu
01 PuD, Ailsean, Flik, C. Engstrom, Wild Cat - Excitebike etc. - Bike Kid: The Musical (Team 80s): Well, it would be fair to say that this is very far from what I normally listen to. The whole atmosphere is very melodramatic and bombastic. I assume this is what they are trying to achieve, but for me it's just a bit too much. Musically the piece is quite eclectic: We go from hard rock in the beginning to some very 80's sounding funk around 3:00. After 4:00 we're into a more uptempo song, but the sound is still very 80's like, Then there's a Queen-like guitar riff, and a synth riff that could have come right out of a hair metal song. There are some prog elemets in it too, and some of the drumfills sound like they could have been played by Phil Collins. Unfortunately it does not appeal to me. I appreciate the musical structure and the proggy elements in it - it's just too over-the-top for me.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 16:16
dr wu23
Buffalo Springfield - "Bluebird". I am not very familiar with this band, but I of course know the big classic "For What It's Worth". The other material I have heard by them was more country-like, so this song was a bit of a surprise. We're in a more psychedelic area here. I like it, but I think I have to hear it some more times to pass a judgement on it.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 16:38
TCat (part 2)
Mingus Big Band - "Moanin' ". The deep sax notes in the begining are almost funny. But to be honest, big band music is not really my cup of tea (partly because I was several times forced to listen to the local big band playing at my school). I usually like jazz best when it goes a bit beyond the conventions, for instance into a more wild and anarchistic area, or is coloured by other musical genres (like, say, classical, folk music or electronica). This track is more like what I would normally describe as 'archetypical jazz', and while acknowledging its qualities I am not really intrigued by it.

of Montreal - "No Conclusion" is quite a quirky number. The composition and production is very 60's like, but the vocal style is not. I also sense an echo of the 90's britpop scene. Needless to say that it appeals much more to me than the previous track. As the song progresses, it becomes more eclectic with a tempo change, some Nintendo-like pling plong sounds, and later big vocal harmonies and a string arrangement. There are some quite "far out" chord changes too along the way which is great. The singing is a bit too shrill to my taste - I prefer something with more dynamics - but apart from that I really enjoy it. Very creative in any case.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 19 2020 at 21:45
A relatively short jazz piece that I played a lot in the old days....especially late at night while coming down or with my  lady around....very fond memories....






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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 20 2020 at 06:31
Listening to the playlist, writing these comments while doing that, so I'm not necessarily knowing who posted what... My take, track by track:

Death Cab For Cutie - I Will Possess Your Heart: Nice instrumental build up on a captivating bass groove accompanied by modest drumming, the guitar and piano adding more and more to it but when the singing starts it gets much more conventional. The lyrics are so so, but they maintain a nice atmosphere overall.

Curtis Mayfield - Don't Worry...: Funky! Which has never been much my thing, actually... This really brings me back to the 70s. Nice to hear, but it's not really touching me.

Light Field Reverie - All Roads Lead Home: Very synthetic background layer and dreamy floating female vocals start this one off before typical heavy drums and guitars set in. Halfway we're pausing to the quiet synths again and a narrator gives some weight to his words before drums and guitars take over again before fading out with ticking time-sounds. It has some instant familiarity over it but once over there is not really much that remains.

WASP - The Idol: Starts like a classic hard rock ballad and this is what we get. Typical 80s (or early 90?), and back then I was much more into this music than now. Though not very original, it remains a good listen and I prefer this one over the Reverie.

Dave Brubeck & Paul Desmond - All the Things You Are: This has a typical jazz café flavor for me: talking with friends, drinking beer or wine and this music on the background. It's nice but a bit too easy going to my liking.

Isaac Hayes - Something: Starts of with a nice piano intro before delivering a very orchestral and soulful take on the Beatles, with a very energetic final. Never heard this one and I must say that I like it very much - a wonderful take on this song.

Pelle Gudmundsen-Holmgreen - Je ne me tairai jamais: And now for something completely different. We're in the realm of contemporary music, which is much to my liking. This one needs attention and both the music and Beckett's text are not necessarily bringing us comfort. It is fascinating and I will to return to this one soon again, becaus it needs more listens (and it makes me want to read Beckett's L'Innommable again...).

Roadmap: Where is this going?

Marius Popp - Inscriptie: Interesting mix of jazz with a contemporary music tinge, synths and a cinematic feel. Very accessible and vary rich at the same time. Nice discovery!

To be continued...


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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 20 2020 at 08:13
My third suggestion. Instrumenral surf prog at over 13 minutes.



Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 20 2020 at 08:30
...part 2:

Janko Nilovic - Giant Locomotion: Another very jazzy cinematic composition, more big band like. Very Dynamic! Giving space to the different instruments by some solo-kind of intermezzos, and sounds flying by, which in some ways leads us from surprise to surprise. Very captivating.

Dissòi Logòi -Amptruabat/Redamptruabat: Again something completely different. This has some pastoral feel over it, starting with the flute, then some percussion and an acoustic guitar set in joined a Middle-Eastern wind instrument of which I don't know the name, and later on some voices and violin (?). It has a very peaceful easy going atmosphere in its minimalist start and its spare percussion throughout but then getting richer and richer. It has something very enchanting. Beautiful. Makes me want to hear more!

Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Fool: Actually a nice transition between the previous track and this one, before we enter in typical late 60s psychedelia. Sounds a lot like a jam session, in a way, with different movements, but not necessarily with much direction. Unfortunately, the guitar sound starts to annoy me a bit on the long run.

Television - Marquee Moon: Heard of Television but never really dived into their music. This one won't necessarily change that, but it is actually quite good: it has a raw side that is combined with some very refined guitar playing and song writing. Hard to define (but no need for that), but they know how to take you with them. Captivating!

Gomez - Rie's Wagon: Now this is a nice discovery. A very modern take on blues rock, very rock, very atmospheric, very groovy, very guitar dominated but with many effects going everywhere. Very different vocals that harmonise quite nicely. A really great track!

Fleet Foxes - Third of May: This has a very 70s feeling over it with their harmonies but at the same time a very 90s (2000s?) indie-rock sound with some folk flavor. It's a nice listen, but probably not a track that remains long with me (I very much like that subtle outro of the last minute, though).

The Allman Brothers - Mountain Jam: Great jam and listening to this you're not surprised the Allman Brothers were that famous. Great playing overall and great music.

Blumfeld - So lebe ich: Quite straightforward song overall, simple repetitive structure where the orchestral arrangements bring in some of the modest dramatics. Not sure if he convinced the person he loves with this one... Je reste sur ma faim, as we say here.

Meredith Monk +... - Anthem: I discovered Monk thanks to Peter Greenaways film (on Four Composers) and listened to some of her work in the late 80s and early 90s, but never returned to her. This is a beautiful piece, nice minimalistic, building up in tension. Unfortunately, production wise, the sound is rather flat, where this is typically a piece that deserves great sound dynamics...

Tied + Tickled Trio - Other Voices Other Rooms: Yes, this is right up my ally. Electronics made accessible. I don't know if this was made with the Russian silent movie Aelita in mind (by Protazanov, if I remember well - great film!), but it definitely has a cinematic quality. Very nice!

Karl Seglem - Springar fra fjord: Unfortunately, the video doesn't work for me and I couldn't find an alternative...
 
Ravel - Piano Concerto in G Major: Beautiful, but I'm actually falling asleep with it...

01 PuD, Ailsean, Flik, C. Engstrom, Wild_Cat - Excitebike etc. - Bike Kid: With the spoken dialogues this definitely has a soundtrack/musical quality, but musically I find it not very original, although it's a nice mix of different styles.


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 20 2020 at 10:24
Some more: Karl Seglem - this is a great and tasteful mix of folk and jazz; sometimes in such a situation jazz musicians just play a theme in the beginning and the end and in between they jazz about in a conventional way that doesn't always do the themes justice, but this one is actually original and fits well.

The Bike Kid: I listened to this while ironing, which is a pretty good setup for listening properly. Well, I'm not quite sure whether I really like this, but it was great entertainment and really made me follow the story (as normally somebody who isn't much interested in lyrics), which in itself is maybe not a masterpiece of literature, but what I really liked is how they fitted the music to it, loads of stuff going on.

Haha, Lorenzo has such a good taste and knowledge of great music, but incomprehensibly he is also a Bruce Springsteen fan Wink I'm of course half-joking; the Boss is not normally my cup of tea but what you play of him shows a variety and musicality that I wouldn't have expected had I gone by just the handful of tracks based on which I decided that he is not for me.
 
The Mermen one has a nice psychedelic feel to it and comes with some fun sound adventure; It's one more that I'd have expected on PA just based on how it sounds.

I have listened to everything now but haven't commented on everything, mainly because some stuff played in the background while doing something else and didn't manage to grab my attention. That's not necessarily due to the quality of the track but may just be because it came up in the wrong moment, and I will give all of these a better listen at some point.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 20 2020 at 11:19
dr wu23 (part 2)
Les McCann - "Soaring Pt. 2". Another jazzy piece, but this time a type that appeals much more to me, partly due to its Latin American touch. I can't say it sounds like something I have not heard before, but I like the mood in it, and it contains one of my favourite instruments, the Fender Rhodes. Sounds like it was recorded some time in the 70's.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 20 2020 at 11:34
mathman 0806 (part 3)
The Mermen - "Burn" is quite monotonous. To be honest I am a bit unsure of what to think of it. In any case it's not a type of music I normally listen to. But there's some dreaminess in it that I like. Around halfway we move into a sort of psychedelic section with several sound effects and disharmonic noises. I like this part a lot better than the more regular band sections which, in all honesty, leave me rather indifferent. After 11:00 it sounds like the track ends and a new one begins, but I guess it is supposed to be one track altogether. Again, I liked the sound effects part better.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 20 2020 at 12:50
Continuing on with first listens, these are all additional from the following:

dr wu23:  Les McCann “Soaring Pt 2”  Begins with some keys and some far-off drums, then the melody begins in earnest.    Great, floating music (it is “Soaring,” after all, well titled), I enjoyed just drifting along on the zephyrs, didn’t seem to be 8 minutes at all. 

Mike:   Mingus Big Band “Moanin’” Begins with a sax solo, must be a live recording, or the band is commenting.  Everyone joins in after a bit, creating the general, lively melody of the piece.  This one definitely holds interest all along, it’s no wonder that Mingus enjoyed such celebrated status as a jazz musician and composer.  of Montreal “No Conclusion”  Kind of upbeat feel to the music, with very dark lyrics.  I appreciate the self-ironic humour here.  The vocalist is kind of “talky,” don’t know if it’s the same with other songs by them, feeling of new wave overall to my ear.

George:    Mermen “Burn” Love the cover artwork, before even listening.  Begins with some clangy (but not loud) guitar sounds and percussion, gradually builds with some picking and keyboards.  Nice flourishes on guitar.  And here come the surf bits after about 3 minutes, echo-y guitar and continued washes of sound underneath.  Gets a bit spacier about halfway in, with guitar wingdings and coily, drainy sounds.  They are definitely getting lost in space about 8 minutes in.  Music seems to end, but there are blops yet to be heard, if you listen carefully.  Then another sound completely begins, with tambourine sounds, more wobbly guitars, perhaps this is where they find themselves once to trip out there has concluded, a pretty and light place, which fades slowly away.





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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 20 2020 at 21:50
My apologies for not saying anything about the music posted...been really busy with family lately.
I am pretty traditional in what I listen to...so many of the things posted are a bit outre for me but all of it is interesting in one way or another ,butthe  ones that caught my ear were:
-Death Cab...I Will Possess...I have several of their cd's and saw them do this track about 10 years ago in Minneapolis. Perhaps my favorite track by them.
-Mayfield...Don't Worry..been a fan since about '69...so know this one ..not my favorite cut by him but a nice one anyway
-Isaac Hayes...Something, ...again know his music and like this one also but again not my favorite one by him
-Marius Popp...Inscriptie...never heard of this band, I liked the late night trippy jazz vibe going on...great to play before bedtime...?
-Quicksilver...The Fool...one of my favorite old west coast bands...great track..Cipollina was an underated guitarist used to play this one a lot in '69
-Brubeck....All The Things...didn't know this cut but been a fan of his for many years...(Take 5 of course being a classic of his written by Desmond his sax man)
-Television...Marquee Moon...classic Verlaine, though they only did 2 original lp's back in the day...but him and Lloyd did some very cool guitar things together and they influenced many later bands so it is said
-Allman Bros....Mtn Jam...one of my all time favorite bands (and Micky's too)...great track though my favorites are live versions of Elizabeth Reed and Whipping Post.
-Springsteen..NYC and Jungleland...an American music icon but  for some reason he never grabbed me hard..I certainly don't mind his style but those two tracks don't get me as much as many others by him
-Mermen...Burn...I liked this trippy psychedelic surf rock....never heard of them...but I could see myself picking up something one day by them

I listened to all the tracks posted but those were the ones that appealed to me on some level so I felt comfortable commenting on them.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 10:05
Dr. Wu:  Though it is quite nice to hear this version of "Bluebird", I'm too much of a fan to vote on this one.  However, "Soaring Pt. 2" is quite nice, maybe a bit too safe, but nice.

Geo:  Mermen - Quite a pleasant and sometimes surprising bit of psychedelic rock, moves into experimental territory for a bit that had me remembering early Steve Miller.  


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 10:11
Here is another for those that want something else to listen to, and nice blues inspired and heavy rockin' track:

Mary's Danish - "Sister Shade"





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 10:51
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Here is another for those that want something else to listen to, and nice blues inspired and heavy rockin' track:

Mary's Danish - "Sister Shade"

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  Don't Crash The Car Tonight....  Smile

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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 14:08
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

Here is another for those that want something else to listen to, and nice blues inspired and heavy rockin' track:

Mary's Danish - "Sister Shade"

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  Don't Crash The Car Tonight....  Smile

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 16:27
Thoughts on Mary's Danish, from Mike:

Mary’s Danish “Sister Shade”  Kind of psychedelic shades to start, with washy guitars and heavy-ish drums.  Light, drifty female vocals over the top, continuing with an almost Jefferson Airplane feel, as lead guitar punctuates the washes.  Eventually slows down to just the female vocals and lead guitar with the washes and drums far back, before ramping it back up, just one more time.    In my mind, they are always linked to Dada, they both were making the LA club scene and both were repped by a lawyer who we worked with as well.  As mentioned, I remember “Don’t Crash the Car Tonight,” but I don’t remember this piece, I really enjoyed this one, for it’s retro feel.  


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 16:29
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Logan
Marius Popp - "Inscriptie": My first thought after listening to the first minute or so was that this should belong in the jazz/rock fusion section. There are clearly some prog elements in it too (there's even a Mellotron at some point if I am not mistaken), so I am surprised it is not on Progarchives. Nice Fender Rhodes, and there are some quite adventurous chord changes which I really like.

Janko Nilovic - "Giant Locomotion" is another jazz fusion thing. It has some funk elements too. It's main theme being built on a bass riff. A rather odd thing is the apparent sound of a motorcycle going between the left and right channel. From 4:50 there's a string quartet all of a suden, playing a variation on the main theme; it sounds a bit heavy. The quartet is probably my favourite part, and it makes a surprising contrast.




I have that Marius Popp album although I haven't listened to it in full in a long time. While I wouldn't say that "Inscriptie" is the only PA JRF relevant track on it, and if that was more representative of the act's output then I would consider it to be a shoe-in for PA, but the rest is less JRF convincing and is more typical be-bop jazz and jazz funk. The second album while also a kind of jazz fusion is not something I would expect in PA, and the third is excellent, but also not the kind of jazz on the whole that I'd expect in PA. Good albums no matter how they are classified (I haven't heard later ones).

This is one of my favourite Marius Popp tracks from its 1988 album (not for potential nomination):



Here is a third which I wish I'd thought of (uploaded this to youtube 10 years ago).

Urban Sax "Slow-Turn Around Melvana" off Spiral:



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 17:10
Since I only covered the videos on page one:

Kreng is dark and awesome in its way. Wrak is the kind of place I like to go sometimes. I remember one time someone recommended to me Penderecki's Threnody for Hiroshima, and I made positive comments instead of using words like devastating and didn't believe I'd listened. Horrifically beautiful to me. I expect to get albums by Kreng. I also took the time to music off Works for Abattoir Fermé 2007-2011.

Allman Bros' Mountain Jam. One I'd heard and like very much.

Blumfeld: I enjoyed it very much. The Meredith Monk is so beautiful and moving. That Tied and Tickled Trio I plan to buy. Love it, and is one of my very faves in the series.

The Pringar fa Fjord is terrific jazzy material. Electrifying.

The Ravel is very beautiful indeed. I have the CD. I used to mostly listen to classical music.

That PuD provides interesting contrast with the others and is fun.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 19:20
Hi,

I don't "get it" for these polls ... 

Have you tried MARC ALMOND'S "In the City"? from their first album? The long version is the one that you want as the single version is really sad!


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: December 23 2020 at 19:36
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

I don't "get it" for these polls ... 

Have you tried MARC ALMOND'S "In the City"? from their first album? The long version is the one that you want as the single version is really sad!

For myself, I don't allow votes "for" someone else's entry, if I am deeply familiar with the material.  In one of the previous polls, I did a submission of "Tramp and the Young Girl," by Mark-Almond.  So yes, very familiar and also a favourite obscure act of mine.  Here is the long version, for those who want to check into this great song.  They used to play this long version frequently on the wonderful underground station in Los Angeles, KPPC, especially late at night. 


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