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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 03:09
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Our supermarket shelves are now empty. Most supermarkets have brought in new rules to allow the elderly and disabled priority to the stocks early in the day, which is a good move.


They're also doing this in my neck of the woods in Pennsylvania. First hour goes to senior citizens, then the rest of us. Some sections of the supermarket are empty or mostly empty. They ran out of eggs yesterday, but new shipments came in today. Haven't seen toilet paper on the shelves since the end of last week. Fortunately my wife ordered an 18-roll pack from Target the week before this all started, so good for awhile (hopefully).

No infections in my neck of the woods yet, but it's certainly knocking on our door. We've been treating this as if it's spreading (which it probably is from asymptomatic individuals). I hate going to the stores right now because there are a lot of people not getting the message of social distancing.

Scary news of the day: CDC reported that of the 508 hospitalized in the U.S., 38% were in the age range of 20-54. 

Good news of the day: China had no new infections in the last 24 hours.


I went to local supermarket at 8am today, out of curiosity, to see how much the stock had diminished in the first hour of opening. Stocks of fruit, veg, meat and forzen foods were quite good, but all the toilet paper and dry pasta had gone, as well as most of the bread and eggs. There had been an overnight delivery and all of the shelves fully stocked apparently, and the old's had cleared them out in one hour! There won;t be another delivery until after hours tonight.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 03:14
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:


I went to local supermarket at 8am today, out of curiosity, to see how much the stock had diminished in the first hour of opening. Stocks of fruit, veg, meat and forzen foods were quite good, but all the toilet paper and dry pasta had gone, as well as most of the bread and eggs. There had been an overnight delivery and all of the shelves fully stocked apparently, and the old's had cleared them out in one hour! There won;t be another delivery until after hours tonight.
 
Just come back from our local Sainsburys, stocks were the best they've been in a week now that they're limiting how much meat and toilet rolls etc you can buy. Managed to get bread and eggs for my father-in-law. Still a shortage of tinned food though but if it carries on like this it won't be a problem, unless the drivers start getting sick.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 04:12
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

The UK is asking thousands of retired doctors and nurses to return to help tackle the emergency.
Seeing that the virus is especially dangerous to the elderly, this seems a bit ... irresponsible?
But then again I'm sure that especially nurses get enough money stuffed up the wazoo to happily get ill and die in service to the community.
In the States, the NJ governor has asked doctors with suspended licenses to help out . Not sure that will help. Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 04:46
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:


I went to local supermarket at 8am today, out of curiosity, to see how much the stock had diminished in the first hour of opening. Stocks of fruit, veg, meat and forzen foods were quite good, but all the toilet paper and dry pasta had gone, as well as most of the bread and eggs. There had been an overnight delivery and all of the shelves fully stocked apparently, and the old's had cleared them out in one hour! There won;t be another delivery until after hours tonight.

 
Just come back from our local Sainsburys, stocks were the best they've been in a week now that they're limiting how much meat and toilet rolls etc you can buy. Managed to get bread and eggs for my father-in-law. Still a shortage of tinned food though but if it carries on like this it won't be a problem, unless the drivers start getting sick.


That sounds positive. Let's hope we're seeing the turnaround.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 05:04
Just heard from colleagues in India that all shops are shutting for the weekend. In Chennai it seems to be ALL shops, in Bangalore it appears smaller food shops are excluded. That's guaranteed to create a stampede today I would imagine.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


Just heard from colleagues in India that all shops are shutting for the weekend. In Chennai it seems to be ALL shops, in Bangalore it appears smaller food shops are excluded. That's guaranteed to create a stampede today I would imagine.


Yeah, that won't go down well.

They just need to sort out the supply chain here. There's no real shortage of stocks.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Just heard from colleagues in India that all shops are shutting for the weekend. In Chennai it seems to be ALL shops, in Bangalore it appears smaller food shops are excluded. That's guaranteed to create a stampede today I would imagine.

Doubt very much there would be a stampede. OK isolated incidents might happen but the climate has been building towards a shutdown over the last few days so this is not a surprise.  Personally speaking, we're good for the next 10 days or so. No point stocking up beyond that as we don't have huge homes for the most part in India and food stuffs deteriorate without refrigeration due to the heat.
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Trump to reporters in briefing: You're sitting too close

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During a White House press briefing with the coronavirus task force, President Donald Trump told reporters they were sitting too close and said the White House needed to cut down the number of journalists at the briefings.
Source: CNN
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 11:03
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Trump to reporters in briefing: You're sitting too close

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During a White House press briefing with the coronavirus task force, President Donald Trump told reporters they were sitting too close and said the White House needed to cut down the number of journalists at the briefings.
Source: CNN
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By the way, I think that it is important to admit when one is wrong, and I believe that I was wrong when I poo poohed your post regarding extensive testing. I think that you were right, and I apologise. My feeling now is that it would be remarkably handy to identify those who, for example, have had mild symptoms, without ever bothering anybody, and, as a result, have built up immunity. Such people could, of course, be deployed to undertake urgent work, and etc. 

Meanwhile, back here in Blighty, they are talking about social distancing having to last the remainder of 2020. Nine whole months. Can you imagine? Personally, I really can’t see the good folk of GB putting up with that.

My cold was, thankfully, a 24 hour one of snivelling and piles of snot, but I feel a whole lot better today, so my feeling that it has merely been a cold was correct. I will, though, stay away from the pub for a little while. Not that the locals, in the main, in West Wales are taking a great deal of notice. Aside from lots of shopping, and working from home, for many, life is carrying on as normal.

My principle objection to all of this remains the horrible hysteria, generated mainly by the media, but also not helped by governments talking about “being at war”. Such situations never end well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 11:10
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Trump to reporters in briefing: You're sitting too close

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During a White House press briefing with the coronavirus task force, President Donald Trump told reporters they were sitting too close and said the White House needed to cut down the number of journalists at the briefings.
Source: CNN
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BlessLOL

By the way, I think that it is important to admit when one is wrong, and I believe that I was wrong when I poo poohed your post regarding extensive testing. I think that you were right, and I apologise. My feeling now is that it would be remarkably handy to identify those who, for example, have had mild symptoms, without ever bothering anybody, and, as a result, have built up immunity. Such people could, of course, be deployed to undertake urgent work, and etc. 

Meanwhile, back here in Blighty, they are talking about social distancing having to last the remainder of 2020. Nine whole months. Can you imagine? Personally, I really can’t see the good folk of GB putting up with that.

My cold was, thankfully, a 24 hour one of snivelling and piles of snot, but I feel a whole lot better today, so my feeling that it has merely been a cold was correct. I will, though, stay away from the pub for a little while. Not that the locals, in the main, in West Wales are taking a great deal of notice. Aside from lots of shopping, and working from home, for many, life is carrying on as normal.

My principle objection to all of this remains the horrible hysteria, generated mainly by the media, but also not helped by governments talking about “being at war”. Such situations never end well.
No worries Steve. I respect you way too much to think that it was anything more than your sound opinion. And it gave me pause to re-consider my post and think it over. Strangely, now I'm starting to feel that the barn door may have been open too long and that the horse may have run off. LOL  I just hope that things will work out for everyone.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 12:43
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Trump to reporters in briefing: You're sitting too close

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During a White House press briefing with the coronavirus task force, President Donald Trump told reporters they were sitting too close and said the White House needed to cut down the number of journalists at the briefings.
Source: CNN
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I was watching that briefing when he said that, he said it multiple times and not only was he right but it was funny.....But yea they were too close, and now they are sitting much further apart which is better.

My position is still the same on testing. If you show zero symptoms don't ask for a test, if you get a fever and cold like symptoms then call ur dr and follow their instructions which might include a Covid test if you are certain you came in contact with an inflected person. Isolate yourself if u get sick or a fever.......For the rest of us wash your hands and keep eating healthy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 13:05
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Trump to reporters in briefing: You're sitting too close

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During a White House press briefing with the coronavirus task force, President Donald Trump told reporters they were sitting too close and said the White House needed to cut down the number of journalists at the briefings.
Source: CNN
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My position is still the same on testing...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 15:09
Last night the governor of Pennsylvania ordered all non-life-sustaining businesses to shut down. The university I work at has closed (as much as it can, somebody has to still feed the horses and cows) and I've completed a week of working at home. I actually think I'm getting more done at home than I do at work even though my laptop is slower than the PC at work. We now have two confirmed positive tests in the county. It's here now (and probably has been for a bit). No news yet of a possible "shelter in place" order like they have in California. 

Some promising news about hydroxychloroquine (an old anti-malaria drug from the 1950s) and remdesivir being effective against COVID-19. Obviously more research is needed, but it's good to hear this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 16:08
My daughter and one of my grandsons are confirmed as having the virusCry and are in isolation in Bristol. More worryingly she is about 6 months pregnant. When it becomes personal, it really hits home.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 16:14
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

My daughter and one of my grandsons are confirmed as having the virusCry and are in isolation in Bristol. More worryingly she is about 6 months pregnant. When it becomes personal, it really hits home.


Wish them a full recovery. A couple of hours ago, I read that a woman infected with COVID-19 gave birth to a fully healthy baby. Hope that will be the same for your daughter and her prospective birth. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 16:21
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

My daughter and one of my grandsons are confirmed as having the virusCry and are in isolation in Bristol. More worryingly she is about 6 months pregnant. When it becomes personal, it really hits home.

Best wishes to them and you. Love being sent.

I know it must be difficult, but all the evidence points towards full recovery in persons their age.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 16:29
That is so rough, John. Cosmic hugs to you and your loved ones. Wishing you all the best and also sending my love.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 18:37
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Trump to reporters in briefing: You're sitting too close

Inside Politics

During a White House press briefing with the coronavirus task force, President Donald Trump told reporters they were sitting too close and said the White House needed to cut down the number of journalists at the briefings.
Source: CNN
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My position is still the same on testing...
Yeah, we know.

Hopefully people will read my entire post and not just what you posted, which contributes to fake news. Your opinion and my opinion, just deal with it and relax.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2020 at 18:42
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

My daughter and one of my grandsons are confirmed as having the virusCry and are in isolation in Bristol. More worryingly she is about 6 months pregnant. When it becomes personal, it really hits home.

Lots of prayers to you and your family.......I had a slight scare 3 days ago with a family member having fever. Turned out the fever is a result of an abscess tooth, but yes it was scary.
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