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Updated track listing, line-up, and releases information for "Second Generation (Scenes from 1975-1977)" by Van Der Graaf Generator.
1. The Undercover Man (7:00) 2. Scorched Earth (10:10) 3. The Sleepwalkers (10:26) 4. Pilgrims (7:05) 5. Still Life (6:40) 6. When She Comes (7:58) 7. Siren Song (6:40) 8. Cat's Eye / Yellow Fever (Running) (5:00) 9. Wondering (6:30) Line-up: - Peter Hammill / vocals, guitars, piano, Hohner clavinet D6 (1,2,3), keyboards (7,8) - Hugh Banton / organs (1-6,9), bass pedals (1-6,9), bass (1-5), Mellotron (4,5,6,9), piano (4,5) - David Jackson / saxophones (1-6,9), flute (1-6,9) - Guy Evans / drums, percussion, cymbal (6,9) - Graham Smith / violin (7,8), viola (7,8) - Nic Potter / bass (7,8) Releases Information: Lyrics: Peter Hammill Producers: Peter Hammill (7,8), Van Der Graaf Generator (1-6,9) On the album: - Godbluff (1-3) - Still Life (4,5) - World Record (6,9) - The Quiet Zone / The Pleasure Dome (7,8) CD Virgin – COMCD3 (Europe, 1986) Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1427 Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/3850533-Van-Der-Graaf-Generator-Second-Generation-Scenes-From-1975-1977 E&O Team: Thanks, done.
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7413 |
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^ I said that would be the last one for now, but here's one more, just for tonight. ![]() Credits are a nightmare on this album: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29584. See the two other versions on discogs as well. I think this is more or less correct, but check it!!! ![]() - Björn J:Son Lindh / piano, organ (1-8), synthesizer, flute (1) With: - Bengt (Bella) Linnarsson / bass (1) - Palle Danielsson / bass (1) - Lucas Lindholm / electric bass (2-8) - Mats Hagström / cello (1) - Jan Bandel / drums (1-8) - Ola Brunkert / drums (1) - Rune Carlsson / drums (1) - Janne Carlsson / drums (2-8) - Anders Nordh / guitar (1) - Janne Schaffer / guitar (1) - Hawkey Franzén / accordion, guitar (2-8) - Kenny Håkansson / electric guitar (1-8) - Rune Gustafsson / electric guitar (2-8) - Bengt Olsson / horn (2-8) - Bengt Sundberg / horn (2-8) - Lars-Erik Rönn / oboe (2-8) - Nisse Sandström / tenor saxophone (2-8) - Jörgen Johansson / trombone (2-8) - Torgny Nilsson / trombone (2-8) - Beinth Gustavsson / trumpet (2-8) - Bertil Lövgren / trumpet (2-8) - Anders Nordh / vocals (2-8) - Göran Lagerberg/ vocals (2-8) - Hawkey Franzén / vocals (2-8) - Karin Stigmark / vocals (2-8) - Sveriges Radios Symfoniorkester / strings (1-8) Total time is missing too: 1. Musik Från En Storstad (21:36) 2. Tom Bohla 1971 (1:21) 3. Grytnäs Sväller (1:38) 4. Biezlov (1:46) 5. Den Dansante Wollmar (6:41) 6. I Grodspadet (3:30) 7. Stäng Locket - Hon Fryser (3:46) 8. Tom Bohla 1972 (1:14) Total time 41:32 ^ Those timings are from discogs. The ones we currently have are from RYM, but the time for track 5 'Den dansande Wollmar' at 5:04 is much shorter than that the 6:41 on the discogs page for the album, YouTube, and the image of the CD itself (or the back cover of the LP) at discogs. Edit: I forgot to add last night the details of where the tracks were recorded, which will help explain the variations in the musicians who performed on them: Track 1 recorded at Studio 7, Radiohuset, Stockholm between the 22nd of March and 1st of April, and at the Musikaliska Akademien, Stockholm on the 4th of May 1971. Tracks 2 to 8 recorded at Studio 7, Radiohuset, Stockholm, June 11-23 1971. Vinyl LP SR Records - RELP 1135 (1971, Sweden) The CD version of the album was bundled together with the book "J:son : ett lätt turbulent porträtt" (J:son : a slightly turbulent portrait), which was released in July 2016, with the CD contained (without any front or back cover) in a plastic pocket within the book. CD and Book Skabetti Books & Agency - SKACD 001 (2016, Sweden) E&O Team: Thanks, done (see Julien's post below). (Only to mark already handled request) Edited by NotAProghead - February 02 2023 at 19:36 |
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7413 |
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Another one (and the last one for tonight, since this is another band whose members don't like to reveal who they really are lol!).
Arktika - Symmetry: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40524. As well as no band line up, there is no total time. On bandcamp the track titles all begin with lower case letters, but the Progarchives AFT utility has capitalised them. 1. A Praise For Ghosts (6:02) 2. Broken Flowers (9:55) 3. The Living Receiver (4:01) 4. Sermon (8:17) 5. Bridgeburner (10:42) Total time 38:57 Only the first names of most of the band members have ever been revealed on line. However, Tim's full name appears to be Tim Kockentiedt. See: https://www.discogs.com/artist/1978396-Tim-Kockentiedt. The final line up was: - Marc / vocals - Jürgen / guitars - Felix / bass - Tim / guitars - Jürgen / drums Only the 'Symmetry' album had this line up though. The earlier 'Heartwrencher' EP and 'At Zero' album had a different bassist named Jan (or Jan Blurr), and this need to be changed on both pages. Line ups for each disc and full releases info can be found at https://www.discogs.com/artist/1086374-Arktika. Note: The free download of the Symmetry album that is mentioned in the Releases information section is only available on the Narshardaa Records bandcamp page for the album (and it is a 'name your price' download rather than a free one, which could change at any time). On Arktika's own bandcamp page for the album the download costs €4 EUR or more. If you look on this wayback machine capture of their old website: https://web.archive.org/web/20130120235848/http://www.arktika.eu/, you will see that the "Symmetry" album was available as a free download via bandcamp solely as a gift from the band to their fans at Christmas 2012. All the album images on their bandcamp still have a large "Free Download" banner across them, but none of them are free these days. Further down the web archive page you will read that the band split up after playing their last show sometime in 2013, and this could be added to the biography. E&O Team: Thanks, done (see Julien's post below). (Only to mark already handled request, because the queue grows).
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^ Thanks, done: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43053
By any chance, do you have new information on their other release? https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43054
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Hi for all.
I have the vinil "Alarme!", from the band "Kashmir", of Switzerland. The corrections to be made are about the informations of the members. Patrice Guenat is in fact who assumes synthesizers and vocals. You may as well, if it seems coherent, specify the instruments he performs. They're described below. Alain Petitmermet takes the drums, percussions and tympanis in 7 of 8 tracks. The others members participate less. If you agree with the modifications, it'd go like this: Line-up/musicians - Patrice Guenat: Roland and Moog synthesizers, grand piano, Hammond B3 organ, Fender Rhodes, Crumar string ensemble, harpsichord, Hohner piano, Hohner clarinet, A.R.P. string ensemble, mellotron, tubular bells and percussion. Vocals. - Alain Petitmermet: drums, percussions and tympanis. With: - La
Vigneronne Lonay Choir (tracks 3, 4 and 8). - Philippe Ryser: guitar (track 4) and bass (6). - Henry Dubelly: vocal (track 2). - Brass section. Trumpet: Jean-Claude Blanc, Philippe Blanc, Andre Besançon,
Mario Alberti. Slide-trombone: Rémy Alberti, Jean-François Bouard,
Jean-Pierre Beltrami (track 4). - Strings instruments. Violin: Anne-Marie Grunder, Anne-Marie Schenkel, Marianne D’Andiran,
Anne Liardet, Christiane Graf, Ernst Schelle, Jan Dobrzelewski, Robert Guillon. Viola: Marcel Deblüe, Rolf Schönenberger, Michael
Murray-Robertson. Cello: Mineo Hayashi, Daniel Suter. Double Bass: Catherine Roy (track 8). La
Vigneronne Lonay Choir conducted by Ewald Meier. Strings instruments conducted by Charles Baldinger. |
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2983 |
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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1682
the albums name is "Out of Abbfinoosty Comes the Storm" |
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^ Thanks, David, good idea!
APRIL RAIN page updated.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7413 |
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I totally agree about the frustration of band members wanting to keep their names under wraps! It was hard going trying to track the info down for these guys! Regarding Vasiliy Zhuravlev, he is mentioned in the band's biography too using his diminutive name of Vaska. Perhaps worth altering that to Vasiliy too, so that it matches the entries we have for him in the line ups of the albums and EPs? I suppose we could go a step further and mention that Vasiliy left the band sometime after the 'Mirror of Ether' album had been released and promoted in 2021, and was replaced on bass later that year by The Other Wind's departing bassist Anton (Tosha) Medvedev.
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2983 |
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Great job, thanks!
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2983 |
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I believe you are right on every point. Changes made, thanks!
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Updated track listing, line-up, releases information for "First Generation (Scenes from 1969-1971)" by Van Der Graaf Generator.
1. Darkness (11/11) (7:25) 2. Killer (8:07) 3. Man Erg (9:00) 4. Theme One (4:00) 5. Pioneers Over C (12:43) 6. A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers (22:00) - a) Eyewitness - b) Pictures / Lighthouse - c) Eyewitness - d) S.H.M. - e) Presence of Night - f) Kosmos Tours - g) (Custard's) Last Stand - h) The Clot Thickens - i) Land's End (Sineline) - j) We Go Now 7. Refugees (6:20) Line-up: - Peter Hammill / lead vocals, guitars, piano (2,4,6,7) - Hugh Banton / organs, pianos, backing vocals, oscillator (2,5), bass (3,4,5,6), bass pedals (3,4,6), Mellotron (3,4,6), synthesizer (3,4,6), Fx (3,6) - David Jackson / saxophones, flute, backing vocals, Fx (2,3,5,6) - Nic Potter / bass (1,2,7), electric guitar (1,7) - Guy Evans / drums, percussion, timpani (2,3,5,6), piano (3,6) With: - Mike Hurwitz / cello (7) - Robert Fripp / electric guitar (3,6) Releases Information: From the albums / singles*: - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other (1,7) - H To He, Who Am The Only One (2,5) - Theme One / W (4) * - Pawn Hearts (3,6) Lyrics By: Peter Hammill Producer: John Anthony CD Virgin - COMCD 2 (UK, 1986) CD Virgin - COMCD 2, Virgin - 0777 7 87546 2 6 (Europe, 1997) Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1426 Discogs (1986) - https://www.discogs.com/release/25843108-Van-Der-Graaf-Generator-First-Generation-Scenes-From-1969-1971 Discogs (1997) - https://www.discogs.com/release/7436416-Van-Der-Graaf-Generator-First-Generation-Scenes-From-1969-1971
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^ Yes, Vaska (or Vasya) is actually the diminutive form of Vasiliy.
As well as Tosha (Medvedev) is the diminutive of Anton. Unlike in English, diminutives are not used that often in Russian. Thanks, Done. P.S. Hate when members of new bands want to stay unknown and don't point out their names on bandcamp (CDs, LPs) though. OK, you don't need screaming girls and other attributes of glory, but have at least mercy to those who works with discographies! ![]() Edited by NotAProghead - February 01 2023 at 16:10 |
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Next album: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=62125.
The line up of April Rain for all its albums and EPs released so far was: - Valery Bykov / guitar, vocals - Pavel Kuznetsov / guitar - Vaska Zhuravlev / bass guitar - Denis Arinovich / drums Vaska Zhuravlev was still in the band on bass for the presentation of the last album 'Mirror of Ether' on May 8th 2021 (see this VK link for the image of the band members at the concert - Vaska is on the extreme right). He had left by October 2021 though, and had been replaced by 'The Other Wind's departing bassist Tosha Medvedev. See https://vk.com/wall-10775_13401?lang=en. This album can therefore also be updated with the same line up, and Vaska can be added to the line up of the most recent album too. This latest album was self-released (CD-r and digitally via bandcamp) on 21st January 2021. We currently have no info at all in that section of its page, since the Releases information heading itself seems to have disappeared from there. There was a live concert featuring some tracks from the latest album, with Vaska Zhuravlev on bass, played on 25th Sept 2020. Edit: The translation that Google gives of the original line up with Zhuravlev on bass give the English equivalent of his first name as 'Vasily' (or Vasiliy) rather than 'Vaska'. See: https://vk.com/wall-45632628_2636?lang=en and Google Translate's English interpretation of his first name written in Russian. I have left the first name as 'Vaska' though, which we already have in the biography and the first three albums, since I don't know which of the two is the more accurate translation. It seems from this page that Vaska (or Vasya) is actually the diminutive form of Vasiliy, and diminutives tend to be used more generally by those who know the person concerned well. I'll leave it to you to choose which one to use on the April Rain pages which include his name.
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I was looking up Mike Oldfield at PA to see which his latest studio album is, and I noticed that Tubular Bells - 50th Anniversary Celebration (2022) is listed as his latest release (CLICK). This seems to be a tribute album by The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra , and so I would have expected this recording to be in the VA: Tributes (CLICK) section where one will find various other The Royal Philharmonic Tributes (Queen, Rick Wakeman, Pink Floyd, Phil Harmonic-Collins j/k...).
This can be an interesting issue in general terms as Mike Oldfield is the composer, and I would sooner expect to find Beethoven's 9th performed by the Berliner Philharmoniker listed under B for Beethoven than under B for Berliner (Ich bin ein Berliner) or in the various artists and tributes section of the record store. But it clearly is a tribute album and would think it should be moved, but you guys are better at researching and considering such things than I. I also notice that there is another of his albums with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in that studio album section, The Orchestral Tubular Bells (CLICK) this at least features Mike Oldfield performing with the RPO, but this collaboration should be under live albums according to rateyourmusic and wikipedia. Edited by Logan - February 01 2023 at 12:12 |
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Thanks David, looking good now!
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^ Thanks, nice job.
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Updated track listing, line-up, and releases information for "An Introduction" by Van Der Graaf Generator. The title should be updated to "An Introduction (From The Least To The Quiet Zone)" as well.
1. Darkness (11/11) (7:30) 2. Refugees (6:23) 3. Killer (8:21) 4. Theme 1 (2:57) 5. Man-Erg (10:24) 6. Sleepwalkers (10:28) 7. Still Life (7:26) 8. When She Comes (8:02) 9. Sphinx in the Face (6:01) Line-up: - Peter Hammill / lead vocals, guitar, pianos. Hohner clavinet D6 (6), keyboards (9) - Hugh Banton / organs, piano, backing vocals, oscillator (3), Mellotron (4,5,7,8), bass (4,5,6,7), bass pedals (4,5,6,7,8), synthesizer (4,5), Fx (5) - David Jackson / saxophones, flute, backing vocals, Fx (3,5) - Nic Potter / bass (1,2,3,9), electric guitar (1,2) - Guy Evans / drums, percussion, timpani (3,5), cymbal (8), piano (5) - Graham Smith / violin (9), viola (9) With: - Mike Hurwitz / cello (2) - Robert Fripp / electric guitar (5) Releases Information: CD Virgin - CDV2932, Virgin - 7243 8 50390 2 (UK, 2000) Single CD compilation to promote the 4 CD compilation "The Box". From the albums / singles*: - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other (1,2) - H To He, Who Am The Only One (3) - Theme One / W (4) * - Pawn Hearts (5) - Godbluff (6) - Still Life (7) - World Record (8) - The Quiet Zone / The Pleasure Dome (9) Progarchives - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29181 Discogs - https://www.discogs.com/release/808541-Van-Der-Graaf-Generator-An-Introduction-From-The-Least-To-The-Quiet-Zone
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Thanks Julien.
The first one from that list: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54346. - Geoffrey "G Free" Veron / guitar - Jérémy Cas / bass - Sébastien Pineau / drums - Vincent Barbaud / guitar ^ This was the line up for the first album, and according to this review was also the line up for the second one. According to the band's facebook (June 2020) Vincent has since been replaced on 2nd guitar by someone named Bob. They actually spell Geoffrey Veron's nickname "G Free" without a space (as Gfree) on facebook, but everywhere else on the Internet the space seems to be included. Milky Clear Double Gatefold Vinyl LP Black Wave Promotion - BWP004 (2016, France) Digipak CD Black Wave Promotion - BWP005 (2016, France) ^ Although the CD has a Black Wave Promotion reference number here, discogs suggest that it is an Abysse self release. I tend to think that this is an error, but I'll let you make your own mind up. I couldn't confirm it elsewhere, and several other sites I looked at (even metal-archives.com - see the 'other versions' tab) got the label name wrong anyway - saying it is Blue Wave Production (which is actually a blues label!) Abysse's label is definitely Black Wave Promotion, as this facebook link or this video will confirm. The image we currently have on our page seems to be the one for the CD and digital versions of the album from what I could make out. The image that was on the front of the vinyl issue is here if you want to use that one instead.
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^ OK then, so here is the list of the 50 major releases, sorted by artists from A to Z:
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54346 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=62125 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40524 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29584 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29585 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29586 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63822 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63820 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=34652 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44045 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53362 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66975 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=66904 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56034 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29457 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=36297 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29793 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32917 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54317 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38363 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38373 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38365 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64272 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64273 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29277 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=50511 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=30540 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38283 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43044 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=30917 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38646 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37819 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=31922 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29133 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32397 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32395 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32396 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43102 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56836 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=36992 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=33736 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=62188 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=21180 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=35352 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57500 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=62234 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56493 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=36786 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42524 https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42589 |
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