Overrated Bands (Opininonated!)

 

Since one is it wrong to think that one's opinion is more valid than the others? I mean... If I have an opinion, I have to stand behind it and think it IS more important FOR ME than other people's opinions..... it's not offensive... is just the only way one can come to decisions... If I really thought other people's opinion should matter the same to me as MY OWN, then I should be doing and liking what other people do and like, shouldn't I?

 

So, sadly, I;m a b*****d maybe but I DO think my opinion has more value FOR ME than others'...

 

Of course, other people will think the same about their opinion, and that's when discussion and RESPECT for everybody's opinion starts.... But hell... I know I'm right when, for example, I say guitar player A is better than guitar player B... for ME. If I didn't believe I was right, then I would be an opinionless fool ready to accept whateever truth is shown to me....

 

Of course, one thing is to hold your opinion in higher value, another one to disrespect other people's opinions... those opinions are their truth....

 

And only through dialogue can maybe one person ever change their opinions.... but that's because suddenly the other person's opinion makes sense and becomes their own, not because one's suddenly putting more value in somebody else's opinion.

 

So I think if I say people are wrong in giving so much value to, say, TMV, I AM right. For MY point of view. I CAN'T just think one thing and be insecure of whether is true or not.

 

I don't think ELP were self indulgent at all , they just knew how to play and enjoyed themselves while doing it. In my book pretentiousness is shown by ambitious lyrics or concept albums like lets say Genesis or Rush. I don't want Peter Gabriel or Neil Peart to lecture me about the meaning of life or the battle between religion and science. You are musicians not philosophers , I don't want to get wiser when listening to prog.

I prefer some out of this world musicianship that rocks hard all the time. Yeah , you can also add some spinning pianos and persian rugs if you want.

Well said    ...though I'd - for obvious reasons - take right or wrong out of it, simply because of the connotations of absolute value - and insert agreement/disagreement.  I don't HAVE to come around to your opinion, but that does not make your opinion invalid to YOURSELF or mine invalid to MYSELF.  And, as I have said before, I  also cannot see why this amounts to ridiculing others' opinion, unless I go about shouting, "All of you who think this band is the best are fools with low IQ" or something.     

@Ivan

Surely logic does not have a place in the world of opinions?     Look, if your maths teacher says two and two adds up to four, you accept it as truth, because it is.  But whether a band is the best in the world or not is not a truth, there are only opinions, more people agree on some opinions than others, but it doesn't still make one necessarily more truthful than others.  It might make some opinions more "useful",  but truth?  That can go right out of the window.  

I see what you mean, as in someone starting out in prog cannot have more useful opinions than an experienced fan. Agreed..but I would also go so far as to suggest that a neophyte should not be forming opinions in the first place, beyond recognition of likes and dislikes.    Because, if one is highly opinionated from inception, one's going to find it difficult to find a lot of music in any genre to his liking.  What I am saying..there's a certain point before you start thinking about whether Genesis or any other band is overrated or not,  it cannot be from day one, that should not be your concern at that stage.   When I was getting started with death metal,  I found the "softer" Swedish stuff easier to take and was turned off by  the more aggressive American sound - I know The T will relate better to this example than you, but whatever  - but the guy who introduced me to these bands persuaded me to persevere for a bit and see how it goes.  If I had decided at that point that he was overrating the American bands, I would have denied myself a lot of music that I love now.  

To put it bluntly, you don't form opinions on such presumably weighty topics when your vision is about as crystal clear as the mist.  

 

I think thay are not overrated.

 

my state.

 

I can't see the picture man! Don't leave me with the suspense!!