Marilyn Manson

Holy Wood and Mechanical Animals FTW!!



his new stuff sucks major balls.

King By-Tor wrote: Holy Wood and Mechanical Animals FTW!! his new stuff sucks major balls.

I agree, sadly. I absolutely adore The concept trilogy, but don't care for anything else.

Alitare wrote: King By-Tor wrote: Holy Wood and Mechanical Animals FTW!! his new stuff sucks major balls. I agree, sadly. I absolutely adore The concept trilogy, but don't care for anything else.

Likewise . But man... he's just trying too hard these days.

King By-Tor wrote: Alitare wrote: King By-Tor wrote: Holy Wood and Mechanical Animals FTW!! his new stuff sucks major balls. I agree, sadly. I absolutely adore The concept trilogy, but don't care for anything else. Likewise . But man... he's just trying too hard these days.

Lyrically, he is stagnating. When his nonconformist and violent lyrics aren't conceptual, it falls flat and feels like no more than a shtick. I also feel he lost his musically glammy edge in favor of a bland industrial metal. Trying too hard to fit into the mold he created for himself with his peak albums.

He's one guy I never got around to.  Can anyone recommend an album to start with?

Finnforest wrote: He's one guy I never got around to.  Can anyone recommend an album to start with?

The concept trilogy. Holy Wood is the darkest, Mechanical animals is the brightest (still dark), and most glam inspired. And Antichrist Superstar is A fine meld of the two. That is the order I'd recommend them in, and the order the story supposed to be told in. But in all, those three albums are his lyrical and musical peak.

yes - if you put it that way

Music isn't bad. Well, his old stuff.

Can't say I am a fan though. Havn't listened him in like a year.

el böthy wrote: For someone who´s music I´m not particulary excited about I do respect him and I always think it´s funny when people take him too serious

I don't take him seriously. Well, I feel that he is serious about what he does, but I take his message like I take the message of anyone else in music. As a detached belief. As beliefs of character sin stories, stories written bo someone. I suppose complex syntax is in order.

Manson(p) = Manson as a person; Manson (b) = Manson's beliefs; Manson (t) = Manson's existence (read: how he is seen as a complete individual being)

P + B = T

Now, say he writes a rock opera. with characters who believe or feel certain things. Take Adam Kadman for example(The main character of Holy Wood).

Adam Kadman (C) =  Adam Kadman as a character in the story. Adam Kadman (I) = Adam Kadman's beliefs and Adam KAdman (Q) = Adam's existence.

C + I = Q

P + B does not = Q

Nor does C + I directly = T (this might be arguable, but only ol' manson knows) As such, a writer is able to make a character with beliefs that differ from the writer. This leads me to be able to not only take the writers work separately from the writer, but also as a character in a story. What is more interesting? A song saying god isn't real, or a character in a song saying God isn't real?

Yeah, I was really bored and wanted to mess around.

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