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Psychedelic Paul 
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Here's your chance to help determine the Top 10 Prog Folk Albums of all time. Simply list your ten favourite Prog Folk albums by *ten different artists* in order of preference below and then I'll assign points to the albums as follows:- 1st album - 30 points 2nd album - 20 points 3rd album - 15 points 4th album - 12 points 5th album - 10 points 6th album - 6 points 7th album - 5 points 8th album - 4 points 9th album - 3 points 10th album - 2 points Remember, it's just one album per artist and these are albums that are categorized as Prog Folk by ProgArchives definition.  Here's a handy link to the PA Top 100 Prog Folk albums:= http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=6&top=100Here's my Top 10 to get the Prog Folk ball rolling:- 1. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 2. SPIROGYRA - Bells, Boots & Shambles (20 points) 3. FUCHSIA - Fuchsia (15 points) 4. RAMASES - Space Hymns (12 points) 5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Anastasis (10 points) 6. AGINCOURT - Fly Away (6 points) 7. ITHACA - A Game for All Who Know (5 points) 8. TUDOR LODGE - Tudor Lodge (4 points) 9. TRADER HORNE - Morning Way (3 points) 10. THE SALLYANGIE - Children of the Sun (2 points) I have a feeling one of Jethro Tull's albums might win this poll, but I could be wrong. Edited by Psychedelic Paul - August 16 2020 at 17:31 |
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dougmcauliffe
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 05:38 |
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Wait... PA counts harmonium as Symphonic prog? I mean, I guess but I thought they were textbook prog folk. Strange.
Anyways I haven’t heard enough to make a list, obviously the last two Harmonium albums top my list along with Comus’s debut with maybe some spyrogira in the mix. I’d throw a few Tull album but I don’t think all of them are prog folk necessarily. |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 05:54 |
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I've always thought of Jethro Tull as a Prog Folk band, but I'm surprised Harmonium are listed as Symphonic Prog on PA as I'd always considered them to be classic Prog Folk too.
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 06:26 |
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Only prog folk I listen to is Tull.
1. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick |
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dougmcauliffe
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 06:44 |
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A lot of their material is. But a lot can also be considered hard rock, maybe symphonic on A Passion Play. Regardless of genre labels, my favorites from them are TAAB, Songs From The Wood and Passion Play.
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 06:54 |
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This is a tough one cuz this is probably my favorite sub-genre of Prog, but, here are my Top Ten FAVORITE Prog Folk Albums of All-Time: - 1. ALAN STIVELL Renaissance of the Celtic Harp (30 pts) - 2. FLAIRCK Gevecht met de Engel (20 pts) - 3. IONA Open Sky (15 pts) - 4. FAUN Eden (12 pts) - 5. PTARMIGAN Ptarmigan (10 pts) - 6. TIRILL Said the Sun to the Moon (6 pts) - 7. AALTO Ikaro (5 pts) - 8. SPIROGYRA St. Radigunds (4 pts) - 9. STRAWBS Ghosts (3 pts) - 10. (tie) CORDE OBLIQUE A Hail of Bitter Almonds (2 pts) - 10. MIDLAKE Antiphon (2 pts) Other Prog Folk album's I'd consider if PA had these Prog Folk albums filed under Prog Folk: MIKE OLDFIELD Hergest Ridge HARMONIUM Si l'on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison ANTHONY PHILLIPS The Geese and The Ghost SHAKTI Natural Elements IVAR BJORNSON & EINAR SELVIK Hugsjá MEDIÆVAL BÆBES Mirabilis CELESTE Celeste (Principe di giorno) MAXOPHONE Maxophone AL STEWART The Year of the Cat JONI MITCHELL Court and Spark |
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:13 |
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1. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick 2. Comus: First Utterance 3. Judy Dyble / Andy Lewis: Summer Dancing 4. Piirpaukse: s/t 5. the Pentangle: Basket Of Light 6. Strawbs: From the Witchwood 7. Spirogyra: St. Radigunds 8. Los Jaivas: Alturas De Macchu Picchu 9. Jan Dukes De Grey: Mice and Rats In the Loft 10. Viima: Ajatuksia Maailman Laidalta Edit: great to find Judy Dyble in PA and folkprog, although this her really great album wasn´t there (going to add and make review as soon as possible). Edited by Mortte - March 14 2020 at 07:24 |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:26 |
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That's 30 points coming Jethro Tull's way from you plus another 30 points from Mortte for the same album, so they're off to a storming lead in the poll already.
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:32 |
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Well..imho the whole category is screwed up.....how is Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span not in prog folk when Tull, Strawbs and Stackridge are....seriously..?
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Hi, Shame on you ... gonna tell yohh momma! The points should be equally made for 1 through 100 (or was it 10) ... and the saddest part of it all ... the most progressive of all of the folk groups is not even mentioned ... THE INCREDIBLE STRING BAND ... and their experiments went into poetry, film, and theater ... and is STILL not appreciated anywhere. AND if that is not enough, Mike's solo albums (specially Diamond of Dreams) is far out, and Robin has an incredible listing of albums with various different folks that stands out ... so far and away ... from everyone else. BTW, when Manfred Mann got a bit tired of Bob Dylan, who did he record? Mike Heron! Folk, for me would also include FAIRPORT CONVENTION and STEELEYE SPAN ... both which were also left behind to only get 1 point each, because here ... all three of these are a much tougher "acquired taste" than GG ever was ... not to mention that the vocals in so many of the ISB takes were ... totally outside the box and insane ... and of course, FC with Sandy Denny, trumps every thing in the listing! I'm gonna go to my closet and cry now !!!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:53 |
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70's stuff
HARMONIUM - Si l'on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison Brèche - Carapace & Chair Tendre Conventum - Bureau Central Des Utopies CANO - Au Nord De Notre Vie PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan Engoulevent - l'Ile Où Vivent Les Loups Jan Dukes De Grey - Mice & Rats in the Loft Comus - First Utterances SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds Tea & Symphony - An Asylum For The Musically Insane Hoelderlin's Traum RAMASES - Space Hymns Errobi - Gure Lekukotasuna Itoiz - Ezkiel Los Jaivas - El Indio Kebnekajse - II Mormos - The Magic Spell of Mother's Wrath Nuits Caline à la Villa Mon Rêve - S/T Parzival - Barrock Ripaille - La Vieille Que L'On Brula String Driven Thing - Machine That Cried Subway - Subway Troisième Rive - Banlieues Pentangle - Reflection Pearks Before Swine - Uwse Of Ashes Madden & Harris - Fools' Paradise 00's stuff Espers - II PG Six - Well Tunng - Woven Hand - Mosaic Dead Can Dance - Aeion Judy Dyble - Talking With Strangers Ryley Walker - Primrose Green |
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:56 |
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Hi, NOW ... that is much more like it ... thx
Now we talking!!!!!  I was also thinking of MALECORNE, the French band ... some magnificent material ... and I'm not even going to mention Spanish stuff ... because it has a tendency to sound "traditional" because of the Spanish guitar ... but all in all Spain has an incredible history of folk music, including gypsy stuff!
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1. Roy Harper - Stormcock
2. Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun
3. North Sea Radio Orchestra - I A Moon 4. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick 5. Comus: First Utterance 6. Jan Dukes De Grey: Mice and Rats In the Loft 7. Jack O The Clock - All My Friends 8. John Martyn - Solid Air 9. The Decemberists - The Hazards Of Love 10. Tim Buckley - Starsailor |
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 09:49 |
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Yes, that is bizarre. I wondered the same thing too. It seems obvious that they belong in Prog Folk. After all, Pentangle are categorised as Prog Folk here, so why not Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention too? Even more bizarrely, Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention are both classed as Prog Related on PA, which seems a very unconventional categorisation to me. It's just another one of the mysteries of ProgArchives that we'll probably never manage to unravel.
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I've never been a fan of the Incredible String Band, so they're unlikely to find a place in my Top 10 list. I think Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span should be included in the Prog Folk section too, but unfortunately, we're stuck with them being in the Prog Related section. I chose my Top 10 points system because all of the integers (or points) divide neatly into the natural prime number of 60, in the same was as the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 & 6 divide neatly into the natural prime number of 12 in my Top 5 polls.
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Are they listed in any particular order for the purposes of the poll?
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:05 |
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1) TAAB 2) Stormcock plus the first 8 Strawbs albums.
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Don't forget it's one album per artist in the poll.  If you tell me which is your favourite Strawbs album, I can assign 20 points to it, just behind 30 points for Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick.
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I haven't listened to enough stuff from this genre, but nevertheless...
1. Jethro Tull - A Passion Play 2. Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice and Rats in the Loft 3. Carmen - Fandangos in Space 4. Los Jaivas - Alturas de Machu Picchu 5. Circulus - Clocks Are Like People 6. Hoelderlin - Hoelderlin 7. Ian Anderson - Homo Erraticus 8. Sintesis - En Busca de Una Nueva Flor 9. Comus - First Utterance 10. Chac Mool - Nadie en Especial
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Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:19 |
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There was a distinct reason when the team took those decisions some 10/15 years ago, where & when the historic progressive folk, psych folk, acid folk and the then-brand new neo/wyrd/pagan folk movements made the meat & bone of the PF genre. It's also a question of proggyness. Fairport & Pan are more of the straight-ahead folk rock (this was agreed by the then-trio of genre team leader), and even if the first has a few lengthy instrumental of great quality, the band gets into a groove and solo away, the right not changing much: Even Tam Lin (in 5/4) just stays put. Next to The Pentangle (a jazz-folk-blues band really), those two bands pale in terms of proggyness. ================== I'll try to think of a smaller list. Edited by Sean Trane - March 14 2020 at 10:28 |
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