Top 10 Prog Folk Albums
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Topic: Top 10 Prog Folk Albums
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Top 10 Prog Folk Albums
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 05:13
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Here's your chance to help determine the Top 10 Prog Folk Albums of all time. Simply list your ten favourite Prog Folk albums by *ten different artists* in order of preference below and then I'll assign points to the albums as follows:- 1st album - 30 points 2nd album - 20 points 3rd album - 15 points 4th album - 12 points 5th album - 10 points 6th album - 6 points 7th album - 5 points 8th album - 4 points 9th album - 3 points 10th album - 2 points Remember, it's just one album per artist and these are albums that are categorized as Prog Folk by ProgArchives definition.  Here's a handy link to the PA Top 100 Prog Folk albums:= http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=6&top=100" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=6&top=100 Here's my Top 10 to get the Prog Folk ball rolling:- 1. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 2. SPIROGYRA - Bells, Boots & Shambles (20 points) 3. FUCHSIA - Fuchsia (15 points) 4. RAMASES - Space Hymns (12 points) 5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Anastasis (10 points) 6. AGINCOURT - Fly Away (6 points) 7. ITHACA - A Game for All Who Know (5 points) 8. TUDOR LODGE - Tudor Lodge (4 points) 9. TRADER HORNE - Morning Way (3 points) 10. THE SALLYANGIE - Children of the Sun (2 points) I have a feeling one of Jethro Tull's albums might win this poll, but I could be wrong. |
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 05:38
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Wait... PA counts harmonium as Symphonic prog? I mean, I guess but I thought they were textbook prog folk. Strange. Anyways I haven’t heard enough to make a list, obviously the last two Harmonium albums top my list along with Comus’s debut with maybe some spyrogira in the mix. I’d throw a few Tull album but I don’t think all of them are prog folk necessarily. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 05:54
I've always thought of Jethro Tull as a Prog Folk band, but I'm surprised Harmonium are listed as Symphonic Prog on PA as I'd always considered them to be classic Prog Folk too.
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dougmcauliffe wrote:Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 06:26
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Only prog folk I listen to is Tull. 1. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 06:44
A lot of their material is. But a lot can also be considered hard rock, maybe symphonic on A Passion Play. Regardless of genre labels, my favorites from them are TAAB, Songs From The Wood and Passion Play. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 06:54
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This is a tough one cuz this is probably my favorite sub-genre of Prog, but, here are my Top Ten FAVORITE Prog Folk Albums of All-Time: - 1. ALAN STIVELL Renaissance of the Celtic Harp (30 pts) - 2. FLAIRCK Gevecht met de Engel (20 pts) - 3. IONA Open Sky (15 pts) - 4. FAUN Eden (12 pts) - 5. PTARMIGAN Ptarmigan (10 pts) - 6. TIRILL Said the Sun to the Moon (6 pts) - 7. AALTO Ikaro (5 pts) - 8. SPIROGYRA St. Radigunds (4 pts) - 9. STRAWBS Ghosts (3 pts) - 10. (tie) CORDE OBLIQUE A Hail of Bitter Almonds (2 pts) - 10. MIDLAKE Antiphon (2 pts) Other Prog Folk album's I'd consider if PA had these Prog Folk albums filed under Prog Folk: MIKE OLDFIELD Hergest Ridge HARMONIUM Si l'on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison ANTHONY PHILLIPS The Geese and The Ghost SHAKTI Natural Elements IVAR BJORNSON & EINAR SELVIK Hugsjá MEDIÆVAL BÆBES Mirabilis CELESTE Celeste (Principe di giorno) MAXOPHONE Maxophone AL STEWART The Year of the Cat JONI MITCHELL Court and Spark ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:13
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1. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick 2. Comus: First Utterance 3. Judy Dyble / Andy Lewis: Summer Dancing 4. Piirpaukse: s/t 5. the Pentangle: Basket Of Light 6. Strawbs: From the Witchwood 7. Spirogyra: St. Radigunds 8. Los Jaivas: Alturas De Macchu Picchu 9. Jan Dukes De Grey: Mice and Rats In the Loft 10. Viima: Ajatuksia Maailman Laidalta Edit: great to find Judy Dyble in PA and folkprog, although this her really great album wasn´t there (going to add and make review as soon as possible).
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:26
That's 30 points coming Jethro Tull's way from you plus another 30 points from Mortte for the same album, so they're off to a storming lead in the poll already.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:32
Well..imho the whole category is screwed up.....how is Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span not in prog folk when Tull, Strawbs and Stackridge are....seriously..? ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:52
Hi, Shame on you ... gonna tell yohh momma! The points should be equally made for 1 through 100 (or was it 10) ... and the saddest part of it all ... the most progressive of all of the folk groups is not even mentioned ... THE INCREDIBLE STRING BAND ... and their experiments went into poetry, film, and theater ... and is STILL not appreciated anywhere. AND if that is not enough, Mike's solo albums (specially Diamond of Dreams) is far out, and Robin has an incredible listing of albums with various different folks that stands out ... so far and away ... from everyone else. BTW, when Manfred Mann got a bit tired of Bob Dylan, who did he record? Mike Heron! Folk, for me would also include FAIRPORT CONVENTION and STEELEYE SPAN ... both which were also left behind to only get 1 point each, because here ... all three of these are a much tougher "acquired taste" than GG ever was ... not to mention that the vocals in so many of the ISB takes were ... totally outside the box and insane ... and of course, FC with Sandy Denny, trumps every thing in the listing! I'm gonna go to my closet and cry now !!!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:53
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70's stuff
HARMONIUM - Si l'on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison Brèche - Carapace & Chair Tendre Conventum - Bureau Central Des Utopies CANO - Au Nord De Notre Vie PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan Engoulevent - l'Ile Où Vivent Les Loups Jan Dukes De Grey - Mice & Rats in the Loft Comus - First Utterances SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds Tea & Symphony - An Asylum For The Musically Insane Hoelderlin's Traum RAMASES - Space Hymns Errobi - Gure Lekukotasuna Itoiz - Ezkiel Los Jaivas - El Indio Kebnekajse - II Mormos - The Magic Spell of Mother's Wrath Nuits Caline à la Villa Mon Rêve - S/T Parzival - Barrock Ripaille - La Vieille Que L'On Brula String Driven Thing - Machine That Cried Subway - Subway Troisième Rive - Banlieues Pentangle - Reflection Pearks Before Swine - Uwse Of Ashes Madden & Harris - Fools' Paradise 00's stuff Espers - II PG Six - Well Tunng - Woven Hand - Mosaic Dead Can Dance - Aeion Judy Dyble - Talking With Strangers Ryley Walker - Primrose Green |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 07:56
Hi, NOW ... that is much more like it ... thx
Now we talking!!!!!  I was also thinking of MALECORNE, the French band ... some magnificent material ... and I'm not even going to mention Spanish stuff ... because it has a tendency to sound "traditional" because of the Spanish guitar ... but all in all Spain has an incredible history of folk music, including gypsy stuff!
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 09:23
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1. Roy Harper - Stormcock 2. Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun 3. North Sea Radio Orchestra - I A Moon 4. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick 5. Comus: First Utterance 6. Jan Dukes De Grey: Mice and Rats In the Loft 7. Jack O The Clock - All My Friends 8. John Martyn - Solid Air 9. The Decemberists - The Hazards Of Love 10. Tim Buckley - Starsailor ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 09:49
Yes, that is bizarre. I wondered the same thing too. It seems obvious that they belong in Prog Folk. After all, Pentangle are categorised as Prog Folk here, so why not Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention too? Even more bizarrely, Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention are both classed as Prog Related on PA, which seems a very unconventional categorisation to me. It's just another one of the mysteries of ProgArchives that we'll probably never manage to unravel.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 09:58
I've never been a fan of the Incredible String Band, so they're unlikely to find a place in my Top 10 list. I think Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span should be included in the Prog Folk section too, but unfortunately, we're stuck with them being in the Prog Related section. I chose my Top 10 points system because all of the integers (or points) divide neatly into the natural prime number of 60, in the same was as the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 & 6 divide neatly into the natural prime number of 12 in my Top 5 polls.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:01
Are they listed in any particular order for the purposes of the poll?
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:05
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1) TAAB 2) Stormcock plus the first 8 Strawbs albums. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:10
Don't forget it's one album per artist in the poll.  If you tell me which is your favourite Strawbs album, I can assign 20 points to it, just behind 30 points for Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:10
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I haven't listened to enough stuff from this genre, but nevertheless... 1. Jethro Tull - A Passion Play 2. Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice and Rats in the Loft 3. Carmen - Fandangos in Space 4. Los Jaivas - Alturas de Machu Picchu 5. Circulus - Clocks Are Like People 6. Hoelderlin - Hoelderlin 7. Ian Anderson - Homo Erraticus 8. Sintesis - En Busca de Una Nueva Flor 9. Comus - First Utterance 10. Chac Mool - Nadie en Especial ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:19
There was a distinct reason when the team took those decisions some 10/15 years ago, where & when the historic progressive folk, psych folk, acid folk and the then-brand new neo/wyrd/pagan folk movements made the meat & bone of the PF genre. It's also a question of proggyness. Fairport & Pan are more of the straight-ahead folk rock (this was agreed by the then-trio of genre team leader), and even if the first has a few lengthy instrumental of great quality, the band gets into a groove and solo away, the right not changing much: Even Tam Lin (in 5/4) just stays put. Next to The Pentangle (a jazz-folk-blues band really), those two bands pale in terms of proggyness. ================== I'll try to think of a smaller list. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:33
Same.
And another 30 points for "Thick as a Brick" for me as well. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 10:41
except that TAAB is not a prog folk album, not even close. If Tull is in PF, it's mainly because of their SFTW, HH and Sw albums We've had talks about changing them from genre, but there was a poll that said they were thought of the epitome of PF.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 11:05
I can accept that, because if TAAB was a prog folk album, I probably wouldn't like it (whereas I do like it... because it rocks). However, Prog Folk is how TAAB is classified by PA, so that's how I classify it for the purpose of these threads. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 12:10
I wouldn't know where to begin or end. It's the best sub genre just as sure as Leo is the best sign of the zodiac 
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 12:17
Tull and Strawbs are way more proggy than Fairport and Steeleye. They are both primarily prog artists, with folk thrown in here and there to varying degrees, Strawbs obviously more than Tull, while Steeleye and Fairport are the opposite. There may be some other possible miscategorizations but I don't think these are inexplicable at all. I think the best way to visualize this is looking at the core run of albums by each artists during their commercial and artistic peaks, which are more or less coincident for arguments sake. Those of Fairport and Steeleye are folk rock albums, with a bit more prog creeping into Steeleye than into Fairport. Those of Strawbs are prog folk and those of Tull are eclectic prog, I mean prog folk! Stackridge? Who cares? The best thing they ever did was "Everyone's Gotta Learn Sometime" by Korgis
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 12:41
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The administers do their best, and maybe TAAB is not prog folk. Eclectic may be a better choice? One of my gripes is Sanguine Hum are labeled neo on PA, when the earlier version of the same band, Antiques Seeking Nuns, are labeled Canterbury. No change to the musicial compositions, so both should be labeled Canterbury. Yes? |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 12:58
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This is how the poll looks so far after the first count-up of the votes:- 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (102 points) 2. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (50 points) 3. COMUS - First Utterance (33 points) 4. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance of the Celtic Harp (30 points) 4. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 4. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points) 7. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice & Rats in the Loft (29 points) 8. FLAIRCK - Gevecht met de Engel (20 points) 8. SPIROGYRA - Bells, Boots & Shambles (20 points) 8. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (20 points)
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 13:03
I just discovered that Stormcock is a Roy Harper album, which puts him at second place in the poll. There's no sign of the Strawbs in the Top 10 so far though.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 13:35
We'll agree to disagree....both Fairport and Span belong in that category as much as those named...period. But then I don't run the web site.....or it would be different. Again this is all totally subjective depending on who is calling the shots. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 13:37
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Btw..some of those that are in the category probably wouldn't even be there..or exist even... if it weren't for bands like Fairport and Span who blazed a path for them. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 14:02
can't argue with that but that doesn't make them prog folk
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 14:11
I'm here more out of curiosity for knowing more of Prog Folk, since I hardly know these bands besides Jethro Tull... but I would have expected some Strawbs to be featured in such a list. And from Tull, from a folk perspective, I guess Songs from the Wood should have it's place too. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 14:14
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1- HARMONIUM - Si l'on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan Jan Dukes De Grey - Mice & Rats in the Loft Comus - First Utterances SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds Tea & Symphony - An Asylum For The Musically Insane Hoelderlin's Traum Ripaille - La Vieille Que L'On Brula String Driven Thing - Machine That Cried 10- Pentangle - Reflection
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 14:22
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ok here is my list, knowing that the presence and positions of these albums could vary minute by minute 1) Pererin - Teithgan 2) Strawbs Ghosts 3) Corde Oblique - A Hail of Bitter Almonds 4) Midlake - The Courage of Others 5) Alan Stivell - Renaissance de la Harpe Celtique 6) Clannad - Dulaman 7) Faveravola - Contea dei Cento Castagni 8) Itoiz - Ezekiel 9) Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer 10) Moving Hearts - Moving Hearts I left out Tull's TAAB because it's not really prog folk and will probably win anyway. I love SFTW and HH but it's not quite top 10 love
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 15:13
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I'll give this a go as progressive folk is one of my favourite catagories. There are so many to choose from. I'm much more of a folky than a rocker at heart. I do tend to favour acid folk. 1. Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer 2. Comus - First Utterance 3. Spirogra - St. Radigunds 4. Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun 5. Aktuala - Aktuala 6. Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms 7. Ragnarök - Ragnarök 8. The Incredible String Band - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter 9. Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice and Rats in the Loft 10. Pearls Before Swine - The Use Of Ashes There are so many others I could have gone for. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 15:32
Unhalfbricking and Liege & Lief by Fairport certainly should be viewed as "Progressive Folk", as should an album like Pentangle's A Basket of Light or Cruel Sister. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 15:34
And you would be correct...but our resident expert kennethlevine says no, nay , not so, never..... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 15:56
actually I agree about Pentangle
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 16:37
I missed that poll! Tull has always been more of a rock or blues rock band to me; their folkiness is often minimal and/or incidental. I think I often feel the same about a lot of the Strawbs, Roy Harper, Fuschsia, and even John Martyn: Folk Rock. The epitome or essence of Prog Folk would be, for me, Gryphon or Pererin or Spirogyra or Fotheringay or Iona or Midlake or Corde Oblique or Faun or some of Ant Phillips work (Geese and Private Pieces) or Holderlein ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 16:38
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I'd love to have included the votes for Harmonium in my Prog Folk poll, but they're in the Symphonic Prog section of PA.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 16:47
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There may be some overlap between the genres here on PA (Jethro Tull qualifies as Eclectic, Harmoniums 5ième Saison meanders along the border of Symphonic and Folk, Jordsjø sounds folky at times etc.), but the Prog Folk policy is at least enigmatic, so I stick to the bands that are listed in this subgenre. 'Ere I go: 1. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick 2. Carmen - Dancing on a Cold Wind 3. Horslips - The Book of Invasions 4. Tim Buckley - Lorca 5. Camelias Garden - You Have a Chance 6. Pentangle - Cruel Sister 7. Iona - The Book of Kells 8. Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice and Rats in the Loft 9. Clannad - Dúlamán X. North Sea Radio Orchestra - I a Moon Some folk albums which are not prog, or not listed as prog, I would like to mention because these are as good as the ones listed above: Nick Drake - Bryter Layter (and the other two as well) Planxty - Cold Blow and the Rainy Night Bothy Band - Out of the Wind, into the Sun Andy Irvine - Rainy Sundays ... Windy Dreams Laïs - Dorothea ------------- 
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 16:49
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So hard to put these in order.....and I restricted myself to one per band or solo artist, and have faves of some of these who have phenomenal solo recordings of band members. The numbering might differ depending on mood, but that's how it feels on a snainy day in Oregon. 1. The Pentangle ~ Cruel Sister 2. Pearls Before Swine ~ The Use of Ashes 3. Strawbs ~ Witchwood 4. Alan Stivell ~ Renaissance of the Celtic Harp 5. Jethro Tull ~ Thick As A Brick 6. The October Project ~ S/T 7. Dead Can Dance ~ Aion 8. Tim Buckley ~ Goodbye and Hello 9. Simon & Garfunkel ~ The Sounds of Silence 10.Offa Rex ~ The Queen of Hearts That being said, the also-rans for me would include music from Faun, Malicorne, The Incredible String Band, Charlie Cawood and, if they'd been available under the category, Fairport Convention and the US Kaleidoscope. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 17:12
great choices! Noticing Pearls Before Swine appearing on several lists, I would like to say that the main reason they don't quite make it for me is that one song about the Children that I not only dislike but feel it doesn't fit in with the album at all. Usually I turn a blind eye (deaf ear!) to glaring missteps but can't in this case. Question which Tom Rapp album should I hear next? Love that Mr Stivell's album is getting a lotof kudos as well
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 17:14
good to see Clannad, Jan Dukes, North Sea Radio Orchestra, Horslips Question: Have you heard Moving Hearts? They were Christy Moore's next band after Planxty. Their s/t is on my list
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 17:14
I really don't like not having album genre tagging (and multi tagging per albums). I'd say the first Harmonium album is Prog Folk, the second still is, but is more Symphonoic Prog, and the third is more Symphonic Prog still. If a Symph fan was looking for Prog folk recommendations, then Harmonium would be one to mention. And if a prog folk fan was looking for symph works too. I'm not saying you're silly for doing it this way, maybe that's the most economical way to check and create limitations, but it feels weird having primarily non-Prog Folk albums (say Thick as a Brick) and disallow primarily Prog Folk albums because of our limiting and flawed classification by act system (and even with that, acts sometimes get moved around). They do say that nomenclature is the bane of the archivist, but/and maybe boxing really is best left to the pugilists. "A nozh scrap anytime you say" (Alex DeLarge). I would place Jethro Tull in Eclectic if it were up to me, and I expect that many who said that he was the quintessential Prog folk artist aren't very into Prog Folk or know a wide variety of music from the category. That said, he does have a folk rock element in plenty of albums, including Thick as a Brick, and some of his albums do fit well (so I'm hardly saying it's senseless to include JT in Prog Folk). Again, I prefer labeling, and multi-labeling, by the album rather than by the artist. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 17:47
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At the moment I can only say this: 1) Tim Buckley Starsailor (Lorca would be the second, but I can choose only one record) 2) Comus First Utterance 3) Tull Aqualung 4) Dave Cousins: Two Weeks Last Summer 5) Dead Can Dance Spleen 6) Strawbs: Grave New World My ranking of Prog Folk is in progress.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 18:11
I agree with you on that song as well, Ken. I think you mean "Tell Me Why." Although for me, there are a song or two from most that I could live without, most of his music and songwriting just speak to me. Least favourites for me are One Nation Underground, City of Gold and Familiar Songs [which I think was done without his knowledge at the time]) although there are individual songs even within One Nation and City of Gold that appeal to me. One part of my LP collection that has never left my hands, no matter how poor I got. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 18:14
For myself, choosing a Strawbs LP, was sort of inclusion of Dave Cousins magnificent "Two Weeks Last Summer," as well as The Pentangle standing for the many wonderful solo works of both Bert Jansch and John Renbourn. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 18:53
Now ... that's far out ... someone that deserves to be in the list ... I really like the period of "The Unknown Soldier" and "Jugula +4", "Headquarters" and "One of these Days in England" ... incredibly great stuff and the lyrics? Yeah, rock music lyrics sometimes are just ... farts in the wind by comparison! And I guess that no one has heard MALICORNE ... ??
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 20:28
oh yes I have heard Malicorne, but not enough I admit. There is a creepiness to their sound that I enjoy, especially on "Almanach", which would probably be in my top 50 or so
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 20:30
actually I like "Tell me Why" quite well. The one I'm thinking of is called "God Save the Child". It sounds like the record company asked him to do it. Probably my fave is "Rocket Man". So so sad
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 20:44
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 20:59
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^ I admit that's a great quote
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Posted By: Rrattlesnake
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 21:23
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 21:38
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I'm not really interested in the designation PA makes regarding progressive folk, particularly since Fairport Convention, Pentangle and Steeley Span aren't included. Which is silly from the standpoint of the folk movement. So, I'll just amble through albums I think are progressive folk as well as being important in the evolution of folk in the late 60s and 70s. The apotheosis of the British Folk Rock movement. Certainly, one could point to other Tull acoustically-driven albums like Stand Up, Aqualung or Minstrel in the Gallery as somewhat folky, but in reality they offer various shorter acoustic songs drawn around hard rock tunes and epics like quiescent punctuation marks. With SFTW, you see Ian Anderson drawing particularly from the more sylvan aspects of British folklore and immersing the album in that ethos. There's the folk epic "Velvet Green" (which has more time changes than the first two Yes albums), the sea-chantey-meets-Bach interlude within the monstrous "Pibroch (Cap In Hand)", the wild fife of "The Whistler", the full-blown English myth of "Jack In The Green", and the the apt intro which divulges the kitchen prose and gutter rhymes which comprise the rest of the album. It also ushers in the triad of Tull albums that maintained that British folk rock feel. Plus, a front-line, gold and platinum band making British folk music was an acknowledgement and affirmation for the whole Brit-folk scene. 2) Fairport Convention - Liege & Lief From a progressive folk standpoint, Liege & Lief was as important to the British Folk genre as Bob Dylan going electric was to American folk, Fairport indeed had finally abandoned the Dylan songs dotting albums up to Unhalfbricking and switched full-scale to songs with wholly Old English themes (and in the process, sent other bands scrambling to the local libraries to find volumes of Child Ballads to plunder). The amazing thing about the album, and the skill employed by Richard Thompson, Sandy Denny, et al., is that the original songs on the album had the same feel and scale as the 16th century ballads like Tam Lin, Reynardine and Matty Groves. 3) Van Morrison - Astral Weeks Released in 1968, this is perhaps the first truly "progressive folk" album. The lyrics are poetry in motion, more refined than anything Dylan did, and four of the compositions are extended reflections of 7-10 minutes. Blues, folk, jazz, gypsy violins, harpsichords, string sections and Van the Man be-bopping about and stretching words into jazz notes make this an integral album. 4) Roy Harper - Stormcock "One Man Rock and Roll Band" is the apt definition of this album, save for the timely assistance of one S. Flavius Mercurius (Jimmy Page) and David Bedford with occasional organ and orchestration. It is an album that is quite rightly mentioned in the same breath as "progressive folk" because everything about it, the lyrics, the compositional structure and the song lengths are the basic definition of the genre. 5) Pentangle - Basket of Light Folk jazz, particularly as employed by the legendary acoustic guitar masters Bert Jansch and John Renbourn in crafting traditional songs into something else altogether, makes this a worthwhile listen to anyone who uses the word "progressive". I'd probably throw in their next album Cruel Sister as well with the incredible 18-minute version of Jack Orion. 6) Harmonium - Si l'on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison Both a progressive and a concept album (Les Cinq Saisons, The Five Seasons, for the Quebecois-impaired), is just as remarkable for featuring the Ondes Martenot, which is a theremin on Hammond organ steroids. Lush and beautiful, as I am French-deficited they could be calling me a c*cksucking a**hole and I wouldn't care, it is just so transcendentally moving. 7) Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III What? Led Zeppelin? From a progressivity standpoint, Zeppelin ignored the monster-hit that was Led Zeppelin II/Whole Lotta Love and shocked fans and critics alike by doing whatever the hell they wanted on their next album; in this case eliminating psychedelia altogether, limiting their brand of hard rock to just a few songs, and opting instead for traditional blues, folk blues and folk rock, throwing on the occasional banjo lead, Middle-eastern inspired folk and crazy-ass drop CFCFAF tuning just for the hell of it. This was the template for the more folk and progressive offerings found on Zeppelin IV, Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti, and separated LZ from the run-of-the-mill Cream-like blues-rock bands of the time. They gave other blues-rock bands like Jethro Tull the impetus to break the mold and move their sound along. 8) Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark From a singer/songwriter standpoint, Joni Mitchell left everyone else in the dust in the first half of the 1970s. Court and Spark is the genesis of the more jazz-related offerings on Hissing of Summer Lawns and Hejira,except I think Joni maintained a more conversational folk attitude on this album. As a female artist, she proved one could write complex compositions with intricate lyrics and still sell albums, rather than just being a vacuous siren warbling vacant words over pop melodies. 9) John Martyn - Solid Air Solid Air (the title track an ode to Martyn's friend Nick Drake) is about as jazzy you can get and stay within the folk atmosphere. To describe the album, you basically mumble the words "jazzy-folk-blues-spacerock." It is that esoteric. One will never listen to "blues" again the same way after hearing John Martyn stretch old blues legend Skip James' "Devil Got My Woman" into whatever the hell "I'd Rather Be the Devil" turned out to be. Gender-bending till it done broke. 10) Comus - First Utterance It is the ultimately weird, savage, blood-thirsty cult prog album of all time. But the acoustic guitar work is ultimately cool and the singing of Bobbie Watson is ethereal. Hey, they were so weird that David Bowie in full Ziggy Stardust drag came out to watch them. Other not-prog folk albums with progressivity: Steeleye Span - Below the Salt / Parcel of Rogues Neutral Milk Hotel - In Aeroplane Over The Sea Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde / The Basement Tapes Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left The Decemberists - The Crane Wife / Hazards of Love ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 21:43
Pentangle and Decemberists are both in prog folk on PA BTW
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 22:13
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 22:16
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 22:28
"God Save the Child" is a favourite of mine, and I rather felt it fit well with various others on the list, else I wouldn't have included it in my recent "25 folk songs" poll. To each his or her own tastes. The Use of Ashes is a solid five star album for me. The whole album s magnificent. I might have gone for another, but including a representative from that album was a no-brainer for me. As for the discussion on the Pentangle, that is quintessential Prog Folk, and was an early one I got into from that category (starting with Basket of Light). I think I've played Cruel Sister the most of that band over the last couple of years. I love it. EDIT: By the way, I had rather expected Neutral Milk Hotel to be in PA. Looking back on an early discussion, it was at one time. Good stuff in or out of PA per my tastes. And of course Nick Drake's Five Leaves Left is one of my very favourite albums. It warms the cockles of my folkie heart to see this topic doing well, and such a lot of discussion. No music touches me in quite the same way that folk music can (progressive, folk-rock, or not). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 22:57
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 14 2020 at 23:07
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1. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick 2. Comus: First Utterance 3. Roy Harper: Stormcock 4. Judy Dyble / Andy Lewis: Summer Dancing 5. Tim Buckley: Starsailor 6. Piirpauke: s/t 7. the Pentangle: Basket Of Light 8. Strawbs: From the Witchwood 9. Spirogyra: St. Radigunds 10. Los Jaivas: Alturas De Macchu Picchu Have to re-do my list, because really didn´t come into my mind Roy Harper & Tim Buckley are also in progfolk (in PA:s logic they could have been crossover prog or prog related or even symph prog).
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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 00:25
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I must admit that I haven't actually listened to 10 different prog folk artists. So here are my favourite 5 star prog folk albums that I have actually have heard: 1. Thick As A Brick - Tull ...although SFTW is more folky 2. The Tàin - Horslips 3. Leige And Leif - Fairport Convention.....I know, I know, they are prog-related but what a ground-breaking album. 3. Dancing On A Cold Wind - Carmen 4. Barafundle - Gorky's Zygotic Mynci ....hey Sean Trane, any news on
getting these guys into Prog-folk on PA...I put in my suggestion months
ago with no answer. 5. Avocet - Bert Jansch .....yep, prog-related but really prog folk album 6. The Nine Maidens - John Renbourn....same as above re Bert Jansch 7. Basket Of Light - Pentangle |
Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 01:43
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This is only PA Prog.Folk albums - if it was any Folk album would be different Jethro Tull - Minstrel In The Gallery The
Decemberists - The Crane Wife Midlake - Antiphon Flor De
Loto - Flor De Loto Dead Can
Dance - Into The Labyrinth Gryphon - Midnight
Mushrumps Tim Buckley
- Happy Sad Ian
Anderson - The Secret Language Of Birds Iona -
Another Realm Fuchsia –
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 01:55
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1. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick 2. Moulettes - Preternatural ( that's all I can do from the PA definition) Others that would not count for various reasons ( but all are Folk related imo) 3. Claire Hammill - Voices 4. Al Stewart - Last Days Of The Century 5. Suzanne Vega - s/t 6. Wolf People - Fain 7. Steelye Span - Dirty Rotten b*****ds 8. Fairport Convention - Liege an Leif 9. Enya - Watermark 10. Vangelis - Odes (ft Irene Papas)
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 02:36
The name does not sound totally unknown to me, but I have not heard their music. -------------
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 05:09
shameless pro-UK xenophobia on your part
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 05:43
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Latest poll update:- 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points) 2. COMUS - First Utterance (100 points) 3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (85 points) 4. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points) 5. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points) 6. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points) 7. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points) 7. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points) 9. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points) 10. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points) Just under the radar:- 11. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points) 12. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points) 12. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (30 points) 12. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points) 12. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points) 12. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (30 points) 12. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 12. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 07:01
Bingo!
Outstanding write up ... and Reynardine's version is one of the prettiest things ever recorded in my mind!
Love the album and still have it ... funny thing, never thought of this album or Van Morrison as blues, folk, this or that ... it was just Van Morrison! And this is not his only great album!
Absolutely ... the sad thing for me being that the tendency in PA is to glorify the top ten, and someone who couldn't careless about the top 10K will never ever get even listened to ... I can see it now someone else trying to review Roy's long pieces ... rambling lyrics and horrible voice ... etc etc etc ... it's uncanny and insane, and is something that has been disrespected in music for a long time ... almost all GREAT folk artists have been disrespected a lot more than rock folks have ... but it takes someone who doesn't care what you think, or I think, BECAUSE IT'S HIS MUSIC ... NOT YOURS!
I've given up talking about this band ... in the earlier days I did ... A LOT ... because it was one of the early things I first got attached to in America ... after Paul Butterfield, Bob Dylan and a couple of other things that were big in the Chicago area in the late 60's that did not have anything to do with my getting my head beaten up! The musicianship alone, should always have this listed in a top of the tops ... but no ... DE ... it doesn't have a 12 layer of keyboards and some one playing it to make it "progressive" and it will never get the recognition because the majority of youngsters are only going to listen to the big 5 and the top ten -- maybe -- before deciding that their metal is better! And listening to Pentangle right after one of those? I would probably fire that DJ!
As much as I like LZ and have all the albums, I think I would leave this one behind ... from a performance standpoint and type of work, this music was a lot more than just rock'n'roll and it belongs in a "progressive" environment for their outstanding shows. There was a massive reason why the bootlegs in those days sold like hot cakes!
A friend of ours used to make funny comments about this band ... from Maddy's horrible cackle to what's an electric guitar doing here?
BonB deserves its "prog folk" designation and is STILL a masterpiece of an album that I am not sure or convinced that most folks here that worship at the altar of the "progressive Gods" ... will actually sit down and listen to it in its entirety. I've even heard some folks say that one song is "tired" ... and I think that he meant that he has heard it one too many times! Nick, is a different story. I've had one of his albums for 45 years, and I liked it, and I could never figure out how people were comparing him to Syd and others around the time ... and last year I got the other albums, which my sisters already had and I had heard them before at that time. I think the way that these were recorded and put together, makes this a "progressive" album, as I'm not sure it would sound as good if it was just him and his guitar ... which is always a massive issue. But it was lovely material! Lastly ... France and specially Spain, have a massive history of "folk" music, and in Spain a lot of it is courtesy of the gypsy music, which was always quite "progressive" in that it already mixed different things into its thread of a song or a piece of music to dance and fly to. The biggest issue in Spain, is that many of these feature the Spanish Guitar and folks will immediately tune out the folk element ... some examples of which you can find in the band CARMEN ... specially their 2nd album (1st was more rock and the 3rd more JT -- who stole the bass player and killed the band!) Thanks for your entry ... it is massive! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 07:21
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Hadn't realized Moulettes were in Folk so had to redo my list 1. Roy Harper - Stormcock 2. Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun 3. North Sea Radio Orchestra - I A Moon 4. Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick 5. Comus: First Utterance 6. Moulettes - Preternatural 7. Jan Dukes De Grey: Mice and Rats In the Loft 8. Jack O The Clock - All My Friends 9. John Martyn - Solid Air 10. The Decemberists - The Hazards Of Love 11. Tim Buckley - Starsailor ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 08:04
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Pentangle are included in the Prog Folk section of PA and they're currently in 9th & 12th place in the poll with "Cruel Sister" and "Basket of Light" respectively.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 13:10
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Sticking to the genre as PA has it (such as it is...): 1.Tull-Songs From The Wood 2.Dead can Dance- Within the Realm... 3.Strawbs- Hero and Heroine 4.Roy Harper-Stormcock 5.Espers- first 6.Spyrogyra- Bells ,Boots... 7.Pentangle - Basket... 8.Fuchsia-st 9.Trees- On The Shore 10.Comus -First.... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 15 2020 at 13:32
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Latest poll update:- 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points) 2. COMUS - First Utterance (102 points) 3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points) 4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points) 5. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points) 6. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points) 7. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points) 8. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points) 8. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points) 8. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (40 points) Just under the radar:- 11. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points) 12. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points) 12. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (35 points) 14. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points) 15. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points) 15. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points) 15. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points) 15. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 15. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 01:12
I've now added a 3rd choice to my list
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 02:46
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Poll updated with RichardH's vote added:- 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points) 2. COMUS - First Utterance (102 points) 3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points) 4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points) 5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (55 points) 6. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points) 7. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points) 8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points) 9. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points) 9. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points) Just under the radar:- 11. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points) 12. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points) 12. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (35 points) 14. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points) 15. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points) 15. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points) 15. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points) 15. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 15. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 08:02
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ok, time to throw in the Strawbs (hopefully) 1) TAAB-Tull 2) Stormcock-Harper 3) Hero and Heroine-Strawbs 4) Basket Of Light-Pentangle 5) Comus-First Utterance The rest of mine are probably prog related.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 09:20
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I definitely don't know enough folk prog, so resources get thin when it comes to rank 9 and 10. Anyway this thread made me remember Miranda Sex Garden, whom I really liked at the time but have somehow forgotten in the meantime. 1) I a Moon - North Sea Radio Orchestra 2) Heavy Horses - Jethro Tull 3) Traumstadt live - Hoelderlin 4) The Serpent's Egg - Dead Can Dance 5) Lorca - Tim Buckley 6) Magical Ring - Clannad 7) Stick Music - Clogs 8) From the Witchwood - Strawbs 9) Suspiria - Miranda Sex Garden 10) Chris Karrer - Chris Karrer
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 12:46
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Latest poll update with SteveG and Lewian's votes added 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points) 2. COMUS - First Utterance (112 points) 3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points) 4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points) 5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (55 points) 6. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points) 7. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points) 8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points) 9. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (47 points) 9. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points) Just under the radar:- 11. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points) 11. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points) 13. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points) 14. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points) 15. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points) 16. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points) 16. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points) 16. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points) 16. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 16. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 21. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (29 points)
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 12:54
not to be nitpicky but there were recently 2 #3 votes for Hero and Heroine (Steve and the good Doctor) so that should put them in the under the radar category shouldn't it?
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 13:23
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^^ Thanks for pointing out my omission. I've now added the Strawbs Hero & Heroine album to the poll in the 16th position. 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points) 2. COMUS - First Utterance (112 points) 3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (97 points) 4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points) 5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (55 points) 6. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (53 points) 7. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (52 points) 8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (50 points) 9. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (47 points) 9. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points) Just under the radar:- 11. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points) 11. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points) 13. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points) 14. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (35 points) 15. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points) 16. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points) 16. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points) 16. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (30 points) 16. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 16. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 16. STRAWBS - Hero and Heroine (30 points) 22. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (29 points) |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 14:11
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Hi, OK .. here's a try ... don't even know about all this! 1. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - Earthspan 2. ROY HARPER - Stormcock 3. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance of the Celtic Harp 4. ANTHONY PHILLIPS - The Geese and the Ghost 5. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light 6. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind 7. AL STEWART - Past, Present and Future 8. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun 9. STRAWBS - Ghosts 10. STACKRIDGE - Mr. Mick 11. CAPABILITY BROWN - Voice 12. CANO - Au Nord de Notre Vie 13. MALICORNE - Almanach 14. RAMASES - Space Hymns 15. SANDY DENNY - Anything of her early stuff 999. JETHRO TULL - Tired of too much JT everywhere including my bathroom! Honorable Mentions: Los Jaivas Joni Mitchell String Driven Thing (was all acoustic in the early days) Nick Drake Bothy Band Bob Dylan (BonB) Horslips (Early stuff) Spyrogyra (I have not heard enough of it yet) PS: Honestly, I have to go through my collection just to find things I missed ... I'll probably add 5 or 6 more things! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
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Date Posted: March 16 2020 at 14:52
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Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 15:46
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Had to do a bit of re-listening for this one. I'm not on the TAAB bandwagon, mainly because I don't like side 2 so well. APP sounds somewhat disjointed, but is overall a more fascinating/likeable album. First Utterance - Comus (this one stands heads above the rest, beautiful, disturbing, innovative, moving, and jammin') St. Radigund's - Spirogyra (a couple of super strong tracks, plus excellent for the rest) The Hazards of Love - Decemberists (Their most progressive, concept album) Stormcock - Roy Harper (Prog Bob Dylan?) A Passion Play - Jethro Tull (see comment above) Mice and Rats in the Loft - Jan Dukes De Grey (the epic is awesome) Red Queen to Gryphon Three - Gryphon (a chess game in music, can't leave this out) Hero and Heroine - Strawbs (best of the two that I've heard from Strawbs) Fuchsia - Fuchsia (one-album band, but what an album) Holderlins Traum - Holderlin (in German, but fantastic music) Some runners up: Gudrun - Pierrot Lunaire (fascinating album, but is this really Prog folk??) (something) - Dead Can Dance (not sure which is best, but great band) Alturas De Maccu Piccu - Los Jaivas (Peruvian-sounding with a prog flair) Stand Up - Jethro Tull (a close 2nd to APP) Pentangle - Pentangle (I like it just a little better than Basket of Light) Dancer - Dancer (just some great songs) ------------- Z |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 16:18
re Fuchsia, if you haven't heard it, listen to their second album(!). Yes, 40 years later https://fuchsia.bandcamp.com/album/fuchsia-ii-from-psychedelia-to-a-distant-place" rel="nofollow - https://fuchsia.bandcamp.com/album/fuchsia-ii-from-psychedelia-to-a-distant-place truly one of the best comebacks I have heard. It's just Tony Durant but he has managed to make this album tip it's hat to the past and yet sound fresh at the same time. Do give it a try (and I'm not related to Tony!)
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 16:24
I guess I should not really have included Gudrun in my list. I second guessed and then forgot. It's Avant Prog with electronica. The first is more Prog Folk. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 16:30
I should have listed Lips of Clay by Solarference. Solarference are just awesome and very unique. It would've been a wasted vote as they're not listed on PA and very unknown, so they're not in my list (I'd probably list this album at no. 4 in the above), but listen to them here: Another one of their albums, as good: |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 17:09
Thanks, I'll check it out... ------------- Z |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 17:11
Well, its classified as Prog Folk on this site, and has some folky elements, but certainly sounds more Avant than anything to me. ------------- Z |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 17 2020 at 17:22
Well, of course we can't classify individual albums be genre, only put acts, including the complete discography, under one category-heading (a limitation of this site's architecture). I could understand Pierrot Lunaire being in Prog Folk based on the self-titled debut (it also has Avant Prog, as well as Psych qualities), but the next album, Gudrun, I would classify first as Avant Prog. I don't think I should have included it (that did occur to me then) in my list and maybe should change it to the debut. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 27 2020 at 07:32
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Latest poll update:- 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (202 points) 2. COMUS - First Utterance (142 points) 3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (129 points) 4. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (70 points) 5. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (67 points) 6. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (60 points) 7. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (59 points) 7. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (59 points) 9. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (57 points) 10. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points) Just under the radar:- 11. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (41 points) 12. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points) 12. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points) 12. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (40 points) 15. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points) 16. STRAWBS - Hero and Heroine (34 points) 17. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points) 18. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points) 18. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (30 points) 18. THE DECEMBRISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 18. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 18. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - Earthspan (30 points) 23. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (29 points)
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Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 17:14
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Took me a while to locate this thread but here I am, and the votes are in: Horslips - The Tain Jethro Tull - Songs from the Wood
Trader Horne - Morning Way Strawbs - Hero and Heroine Trees - On the Shore Comus - First Utterance Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps Forest - Full Circle Roy Harper - Flat Baroque and Berserk Pentangle - Basket of Light ------------- "And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!" "He's up the pub" |
Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 17:32
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I apparently have only ever listened to five Prog-Folk bands, and so will only have five albums ranked: 1. Thick as a Brick by Jethro Tull 2. Within the Realm of a Dying Sun by Dead Can Dance 3. The Hazards of Love by The Decemberists 4. Red Queen to Gryphon Three by Gryphon 5. Basket of Light by Pentangle ------------- I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!) Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp ! |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 17:33
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^^ It's good to see this poll back again. There's a Top 10 Crossover Prog list out there somewhere too.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: August 16 2020 at 22:56
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1) Jethro Tull - Minstrel in the Gallery 2) Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps 3) The Strawbs - Hero and Heroine 4) Fairport Convention - Babbacombe Lee 5) Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die 6) Tim Buckley - Goodbye and Hello 7) The Decemberists - Picaresque 8) Lindisfarne - Dingly Dell 9) Crosby, Stills and Nash - CSN 10) Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 17 2020 at 07:09
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Top 10 update after the latest three rounds of voting:- 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (232 points) 2. COMUS - First Utterance (148 points) 3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (129 points) 4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (80 points) 5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (79 points) 6. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (70 points) 7. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (69 points) 8. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (67 points) 9. STRAWBS - Hero and Heroine (61 points) 10. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (60 points) 11. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (59 points) 12. HORSLIPS - The Tain (50 points) 13. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points) 14. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (41 points) 15. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points) 15. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points) 15. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (40 points) 18. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points) 18. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Hazards of Love (36 points) 20. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points) 21. GRYPHON - Midnight Mushrumps (31 points) 22. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points) 22. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 22. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 22. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - Earthspan (30 points) 26. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (29 points) There are two new entries in the Top 10 for Jethro Tull's "Minstrel in the Gallery" and the Strawb's "Hero and Heroine", and in the Top 20, there are two new entries for Horslips' "The Tain" and The Decemberists' "The Hazards of Love". Thanks to everyone who's taken part.   |
Posted By: ProgLin
Date Posted: January 01 2022 at 14:56
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1. Strawbs - Ghosts 2. Jethro Tull - Songs From The Wood 3. Incredible String Band - Hard Rope And Silken Twine 4. Babe Ruth - 1st Base 5. Steeleye Span - All Around My Hat 6. Strawbs - From The Witchwood 7. Jethro Tull - A Passion Play 8. Incredible String Band - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter 9. its A Beautiful Day - Choice Quality Stuff / Anytime 10. Sandy Denny & The Strawbs - All Our Own Work
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 01 2022 at 15:08
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Interesting to see this one, Paul. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 01 2022 at 15:25
It was a surprise to me too. I'd forgotten this poll even existed until it popped up again today over 16 months after the previous post.
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 02 2022 at 03:05
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1. Harmonium - Les Cinq Saisons 2. Strawbs - Grave New World 3. Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three 4. Jethro Tull - Aqualung 5. Anthony Phillips - The Geese & the Ghost 6. Carol of Harvest - Carol of Harvest 7. Ragnarök - Ragnarök 8. Los Jaivas - Alturas de Machu Pichu 9. The Pentangle - Basket of Light 10. Judy Dyble - Talking With Strangers
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 02 2022 at 03:41
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Top 10 update with ProgLin & King Crimson 776's votes added:- 1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (232 points) 2. COMUS - First Utterance (148 points) 3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (129 points) 4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (100 points) 5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (79 points) 6. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (72 points) 7. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (70 points) 8. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (67 points) 9. HARMONIUM - Les Cinq Saisons (66 points) 10. STRAWBS - Hero and Heroine (61 points) 11. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (60 points) 12. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (59 points) 13. STRAWBS - Ghosts (56 points) 14. HORSLIPS - The Tain (50 points) 15. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points) 16. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (41 points) 17. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points) 17. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points) 17. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (40 points) 20. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points) 20. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Hazards of Love (36 points) 22. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (35 points) 23. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points) 24. GRYPHON - Red Queen to Gryphon Three (32 points) 25. GRYPHON - Midnight Mushrumps (31 points) 26. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points) 26. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 26. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points) 26. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - Earthspan (30 points) |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: January 02 2022 at 04:47
That's what can happen, and then, it's good when somebody else refreshes it. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |