Are Coheed And Cambria "Progresive Punk"?

Ok....one point I have to make.

Progressive Punk is almost like an oxymoron to me.Punk is in direct oppostion to everything prog is about and vice versa.

And C&C are hard for me to classify.I enjoy their music,especially their newest album.

I don't feel a need to label and classify everything I listen to.As long as I dig it,that's fine with me and I don't care what it's called.

TheProgtologist wrote: Ok....one point I have to make. Progressive Punk is almost like an oxymoron to me.Punk is in direct oppostion to everything prog is about and vice versa.

I'm agree with you, Prog And Punk??, it seems opposite. But if there is a form to called C&C I think this is the most aproximate. Maybe we are in front of a new genre of prog. Progressive Punk: Punk sound, Prog estructure.

TheProgtologist wrote: I don't feel a need to label and classify everything I listen to.As long as I dig it,that's fine with me and I don't care what it's called.

me neither, as long as it's not labeled "punk"

Honestly, I dont hear much punk in Co&Ca's sound.  They're more like art rock or pomp-prog on the order of Styx or early Rush.  Their guitar parts are more like straight guitar rock rather than either the overly basic punk, or the overly complex prog. The closest sound I hear to punk on this record is certain passages that remind me of the Police. I just dont know what to make of them anymore.  The songs are too derivative to be real prog, but they are derivative of good stuff (i.e. Rush, Led Zep, et al.)  It seems they are caught somewhere between writing good, mature songs and just being a goofy high school band. 
Certain moments on "Good Apollo...."  make me think 'damn, thats good, they've really come around...' (such as The Willing Well IV - The Final Cut), while other moments make me shudder(such as the Willing Well II)

It's an enjoyable record, but nothing terribly special.  It's not prog-punk.

Coheed and Cambria progressive punk?

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R_DeNIRO wrote: GoldenSpiral wrote: Honestly, I dont hear much punk in Co&Ca's sound.  They're more like art rock or pomp-prog on the order of Styx or early Rush.  Their guitar parts are more like straight guitar rock rather than either the overly basic punk, or the overly complex prog. The closest sound I hear to punk on this record is certain passages that remind me of the Police. I just dont know what to make of them anymore.  The songs are too derivative to be real prog, but they are derivative of good stuff (i.e. Rush, Led Zep, et al.)  It seems they are caught somewhere between writing good, mature songs and just being a goofy high school band.  Certain moments on "Good Apollo...."  make me think 'damn, thats good, they've really come around...' (such as The Willing Well IV - The Final Cut), while other moments make me shudder(such as the Willing Well II) It's an enjoyable record, but nothing terribly special.  It's not prog-punk. Maybe if you listened to many tracks of "In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth" your opinion will change.

Nope, I've had that record for a long time.  I stick to my point on this one.  Just because there are simple guitar parts doesn't mean it's punk.  It sounds more like just poppy hard rock, but with more complex songwriting in the case of Co&Ca.  Maybe if you could show me a certain passage that reminds you of a punk band....

I'm going to reserect this old thread.

A friend brougt his MP3 player into work today saying he's going to play some hardcore punk and starts playing something that to my ears sounded alot like 80's Rush!

I enquired who they were and I was told they're "Coheed & Cambria"? I thought they sounded alright and I manged to find some more MP3's online here http://music.download.com/coheedandcambria/3600-8709_32-1001 30220.html

I also discoveded they are due to play some gigs over here in the new year (04/02/06 Brixton).
Are this band worth going to see? Are they any good live?




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I'm going to see the band on feb 1st and I go along with what Wikipedia has to say about the band :

Story elements and melodic themes are cohesively wrought throughout their albums to date. Co&Ca are perhaps the most visible arbiters of a new sort of "prog-rock opera" style for the 2000s. Notably, though, the futuristic sci-fi storyline on which all their music is based harkens back to the epic sound and feel of 1970s progressive-rock. However, Claudio Sanchez's singular lyrics reflect more raw language than many of these classic bands would have used

wikipedia calls it "emo." Emo is a variation of punk.

^Well the orginal punk bands (Pistols, the Clash, The Dammed, the Adverts, so on) were 3 chord rock and roll bands (in theory).
I think most of the bands above and a lot of "punk" bands since, are more than 3 chord RnR. I don't fully understand a lot of these sub-genres of Punk (in fact I could say the same about metal, prog, jazz, etc) all I know is Co&Ca know more than 3 chords and I wouldn't call them straight 4 on the floor rock 'n' roll either, perhaps this is the definition of 'emo' who knows? I certainly don't