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Varon 
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Joined: August 06 2010 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 502 |
 Topic: A stupide questionPosted: March 14 2015 at 08:18 |
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To make this question more comprehensible: would you choose a 1000 CDs of progrock or 1000 Cds of Jazz and Classical music recordings . If you really prefer prog to jazz and classical music, I would like to know why.
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
Posted: March 14 2015 at 09:13 |
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It's not as stupid a question as you think. This member of a Progressive Rock appreciation site would choose Progressive Rock over jazz and classical but would choose much Post Punk and generic Rock e.g. Kinks, Stones, Who, SAHB, Velvet Underground, over Progressive Rock.
You want to know the reasons why this is so but honestly: Jazz and classical as descriptors, encompasses far too many variegated sources to make the outcome credible e.g. Thelonius Monk and Kenny Ball both qualify as jazz while Stravinsky and Elgar are like two peas in a pod designed by Albert Speer. Edited by ExittheLemming - March 14 2015 at 09:23 |
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JD
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Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
Posted: March 14 2015 at 09:22 |
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I'm going with Prog Rock as it contains Jazz and Classical elements where as Jazz and Classical doesn't necessarily contain Prog Rock elements even though they helped feed the Prog machine. it's a toughie to be sure.
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twosteves
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Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4095 |
Posted: March 14 2015 at 10:16 |
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well while I can't give up my prog---my taste in prog is way more narrow than some on this site---and most of the prog I like has jazz and or classical influence----and I like a lot of jazz and some classical---not sure either would add up to 1000 CD's---like some have mentioned I have my classic rock and jazz folk heros that are not considered prog but in my mind have prog elements---so guess I will vote prog if I can come up with my own rules as to what I can include
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moshkito
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Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18159 |
Posted: March 14 2015 at 10:28 |
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Hi,
Jazz and Classical, because it is a bonafide, well defined mode, though the "jazz" label is limiting as heck and sometimes very boring, but it is wider in its appreciation of differences than ... progressive ... has EVER been, which is the reason why I do not like to use the term.
For me, I would be happy, and proud, the day that we can be intelligent enough to create a proper definition that will have all the musicos excited to understand, that those raock fans, have finally grown up and learned to appreciate music instead of talking about their favorite songs!
On that day, I think "progressive" will be respected. Until then ... let's just go to sleep and call it a night ... even with/without a bomber! Edited by moshkito - March 15 2015 at 15:17 |
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 10:33 |
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Prog Rock for sure, although I do love my Jazz/Fusion. I'm just not into Classical at all.
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Horizons
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 10:57 |
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Progressive Rock.
Easily.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Progosopher
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 12:33 |
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Only 1000?
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Rednight
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 12:50 |
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1000 show tunes (hey, my wife is beating the masculinity right out of me).
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Rednight
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 12:51 |
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1000 show tunes (hey, my wife is beating the masculinity right out of me).
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Wanorak
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 15:47 |
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Prog! I really have to be in the right mood for classical and I'm not much into jazz.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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HolyMoly
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 15:55 |
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I could probably do without jazz and classical altogether without any pain at all. I'm hoping I'll learn to appreciate them someday (if I inherit my dad's music collection I will have all the jazz albums I'll ever need). And I envy people who can enjoy classical music - the music is obviously so rich and there's so much of it - but it just rolls through my ears without much emotional response. So prog is my vote.
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Hercules
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Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
Posted: March 14 2015 at 18:24 |
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Prog by far.
I like some classical (particularly Sibelius, Dvorak, Vivaldi, Vaughan Williams, Bach) but I really don't like much jazz.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 18:38 |
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Prog is where it all came together for me. I like some classical (Ligeti, Bartok, Schoenberg, Chopin) but, like what Hercules said, it's hard for me to absorb jazz ... unless it's fusion.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - March 14 2015 at 18:39 |
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David64T
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 18:54 |
A good question - my answer depends on what the scenario is. Am I to be marooned on a desert island on my own with only those 1000 CDs to listen to for the rest of my life? If so, I would choose classical + jazz (mainly classical, a little jazz) - thinking about it, I don't want to lose the option of being wrapped up in the opulent and varied soundscapes of classical music, as much as I love my prog rock.... Am I simply being given 1000 free CDs by a generous person? If so, I would take the 1000 prog CDs - because classical music is easily obtained and I can hear it on my radio 24 hours a day... As to whether I prefer prog or jazz/classical in an absolute sense - I cannot answer that... It's too hard to choose...  |
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presdoug
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 19:32 |
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I'd hate to have to choose between giving up Triumvirat or Anton Bruckner, but to answer your question, I would go with having a thousand classical with a bit of jazz cds. I find symphonies so soothing and moving, that I think I would miss them more. To me, the Symphony is the highest form of musical art.
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Svetonio
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Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
Posted: March 14 2015 at 21:05 |
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Progressive rock |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 21:07 |
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If someone was giving me a 1000 jazz and classical albums, I would accept them gladly. I would then bundle them all together with rope, rent a construction crane, hoist the records high in the air and drop them on Pedro's head.
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Padraic
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 21:18 |
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That's actually a very difficult choice.
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Rick Robson
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Posted: March 14 2015 at 21:58 |
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Jazz+Classical Music, even if I like very few of jazz.
Only at my 22-23 years old I began to dig into classical music, but I guess now this is much because I listened to it during my childhood, my father put it at home during his work (he's architect), I remember that Chopin's was my mother favourite... I reckon it's much harder for the people nowadays to dig into this genre if they never listened to it in their whole life, this is one of the main reasons why I think classical music is sadly gradually and increasingly dying. But I think that different is the case of progressive music, whither you are more likely to occasionaly hear some music (be it by chance or not) or someone talking about it. So it was quite obvious for me that progressive rock was going to win this poll easily, without regarding the fact that this is a progressive rock site. Regarding the modern and contemporary classical music it happened to me the same that I think happened and might be happening to a lot of people here with the rest of the genre - the few artists I knew didn't attract me that much as a whole. But personally I wouldn't generalize or think the rest of this genre would be quite likely of less interest for me to the point of not digging into them, because the other classical ages did make me kind of a classical nut just for the few classical music I knew (if I consider its at least 300 years lifetime), these few are amongst my most beloved music so far, apart of some music from other genres obviously, as progressive rock for instance. Just as an illustration, I guess that classical music is still one of the most beloved music of many of the renowned prog artists - Keith Emerson, Steve Hackett, Evángelos Odysséas Papathanassíu, Jürgen Fritz, Pahr Lindh, Rick Wakeman, Francis Monkman, Gianni Nocenzi, etc. Edited by Rick Robson - March 14 2015 at 22:01 |
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