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Arsillus 
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 Posted: March 28 2005 at 09:40 |
. DT originally put their band logo in every studio album cover and then SX did it too.
And how does that affect the music? How does putting your band name/logo on every album cover make you a DT clone? Explain.
Matt
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frenchie
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 09:45 |
 Arsillus wrote:
. DT originally put their band logo in every studio album cover and then SX did it too.
And how does that affect the music? How does putting your band name/logo on every album cover make you a DT clone? Explain.
Matt |
no i just think they have blatently taken DT as more than just an influence, they are just an even more dramatic and mythologic version of dream theater. not only do they copy their sound and style but they also copy artwork ideas and stuff! not helping out their case! i dont like that about SX but if you read any of my reviews i gave SX good reviews! i like them musically, i am not even bothered about the similarities cos they are a good band!
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The Owl
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 10:48 |
Cloneage is bound to happen alright:
YES spawned Starcastle and Atlantide as just 2 examples
ELP spawned Triumvarat and The Load as just 2 examples, others under the influence include Ars Nova, Gerard, Kenso
GENESIS spawned Babylon, The Watch, Marillion and Ange as just a few examples
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People are puzzled why I don't dig the Stones, well, I listened to the Stones, I tried, and I tried, and I tried, and--I Can't Get No Satisfaction!
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Metropolis
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 12:12 |
Arsillus wrote:
. DT originally put their band logo in every studio album cover and then SX did it too.
And how does that affect the music? How does putting your band name/logo on every album cover make you a DT clone? Explain.
Matt |
I agree with you in that the art work doesnt make you a clone, but why
does everyone believe that DT put their band logo on every studio album
cover, it just isnt true, I am HOLDING Falling into Infinity ans it
sure as hell does NOT have the DT band logo on the cover 
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We Lost the Skyline............
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frenchie
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 13:38 |
Metropolis wrote:
Arsillus wrote:
. DT originally put their band logo in every studio album cover and then SX did it too.
And how does that affect the music? How does putting your band name/logo on every album cover make you a DT clone? Explain.
Matt |
I agree with you in that the art work doesnt make you a clone, but why does everyone believe that DT put their band logo on every studio album cover, it just isnt true, I am HOLDING Falling into Infinity ans it sure as hell does NOT have the DT band logo on the cover
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hehe he found it now! its faint! 
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Metropolis
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 13:40 |
Seriously i could barely make that out, i dont think that counts 
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frenchie
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 13:52 |
Metropolis wrote:
Seriously i could barely make that out, i dont think that counts |
lol it does! i could see it perfectly!
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Metropolis
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 14:02 |
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Hmm, on my copy its barely visible
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frenchie
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 15:34 |
Metropolis wrote:
Hmm, on my copy its barely visible |
so am i if i turn sideways, you said it yourself, i'm a skinny c**t!
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valravennz
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 17:18 |
frenchie wrote:
i feel like the only one to notice...
but ever since i heard heart of the sunrise by yes ive thought that intro fast riff sounds like the middle section of 21st century schizoid man.
any thoughts?
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Yes - I can hear KC "21st Century ..." in that intro. But not so dramatically that I would call it a major influence. It's only that you point it out that I noticed. 
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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frenchie
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 18:18 |
valravennz wrote:
frenchie wrote:
i feel like the only one to notice...
but ever since i heard heart of the sunrise by yes ive thought that intro fast riff sounds like the middle section of 21st century schizoid man.
any thoughts?
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Yes - I can hear KC "21st Century ..." in that intro. But not so dramatically that I would call it a major influence. It's only that you point it out that I noticed. |
thanks, thought i was the only one, i doubt it is influenced or blagged from master fripp, just sounds dead similar thats all.
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Ben2112
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Posted: March 28 2005 at 19:26 |
frenchie: never noticed before but you're right; I hear a possible influence there. Although HOTS is more of a bass riff and 21st is more guitar, but it is similar.
Which might explain why Heart Of The Sunrise is one of my all-time favorite songs, and definitely my fave Yes song.
Edited by Ben2112
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