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Velvetclown 
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 Posted: March 27 2005 at 14:38 |
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Carl who ???????????
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threefates
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Posted: March 27 2005 at 14:37 |
Maybe you should watch the Asia in Asia video... I don't think his drumming with Asia lacked integrity at all. If anything, he improved greatly the material he was given to work with...
BTW.. that video also has Greg standing in for John Wetton. The best part is when Greg has to come out and sing a Geoff Downes song while not holding an instrument. I've only seen him sing once before while not playing... he really doesn't know what to do with his hands... 
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Reed Lover
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 18:50 |
 threefates wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
I have just been listening to The Very Best Of Asia and had forgotten Palmer was the original drummer.
I'm on track 4 and can see no reason whatsoever why he would be considered the best drummer(obviously I am already familiar with his work with ELP).He is just a very good drummer no more no less.Comparing him with Bruford and Peart is wishful thinking. |
As usual, you're way off base. You can't compare his work in Asia to anything he did before with ELP or afterwards with ELP, Qango and his own band. If you haven't heard it all, or seen him live, you really can't say that.
Carl did dumb down for Asia... he'll even tell you that.
You're in the UK... you should attend one of his masterclasses.. and then come back and tell me that... 
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If only I had a Time Machine
Actually it would be great to watch a professional like him give a clinic,but not for £20!!!!
His drumming in Asia lacks integrity....
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elpprogster
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 18:27 |
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Pity that does not features any of the "Prog Drummers"...
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jgooley
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 03:33 |
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Great list...
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Hierophant
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 02:51 |
In my opinion... these are the best drummers of all time and not
nessacerily because i personly like their style but because they took
drumming to such an extreme level musically:
Buddy Rich
Billy Cobham
Tony Williams
Steve Gadd
Vinnie Colaiuta
Dave Weckl
Virgil Donati
Danny Carey
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threefates
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Posted: March 26 2005 at 02:03 |
Reed Lover wrote:
I have just been listening to The Very Best Of Asia and had forgotten Palmer was the original drummer.
I'm on track 4 and can see no reason whatsoever why he would be considered the best drummer(obviously I am already familiar with his work with ELP).He is just a very good drummer no more no less.Comparing him with Bruford and Peart is wishful thinking. |
As usual, you're way off base. You can't compare his work in Asia to anything he did before with ELP or afterwards with ELP, Qango and his own band. If you haven't heard it all, or seen him live, you really can't say that.
Carl did dumb down for Asia... he'll even tell you that.
You're in the UK... you should attend one of his masterclasses.. and then come back and tell me that...
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MS Paragon GT
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 22:47 |
Xanadu wrote:
That australian dude...whats his name ohhh Virgil
something and not to meantion that twelve year old boy, Tony Ruster,
probably got that wrong, but that kiddo got THE speed.
But in the end i think it ought to be peart or portnoy |
Virgil Donati? If so than +1
VD is fantastic with Planet X.
Still suprised noone has mentioned (or probebly never heard of) Nick D'Virgilio (Spock's Beard)
-Art
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Zero the hero
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 19:35 |
I'm sitting here looking at everybody blowing the trumpet for the best drummer...Why! I'll repeat what i've already posted:
I find it really odd that a poll could be put forward regarding a ''Best Drummer''.No such thing as a best drummer,every fan of their best loved band are going to vote for that drummer,it's inevitable.However each drummer has his own individulal style of playing,tricks,exemplary timing etc.Some drummers may pull off an energetic 30 min drum solo live,where as another drummer of a simular band may not entertain drum solo's,in either instance this does'nt make any drummer better than another.
Edited by Zero the hero
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Darth Nisis
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 19:10 |
Bill Brudford
But Jason Rullo is amazing too.
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 17:53 |
Manunkind wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
Dave Lombardo (ex Slayer) is a fantastic and criminally underrated drummer,
Or so I've heard, but there have to be some other recordings (other than those of Slayer or Fantomas) that showcase these skills?
There probably are - I detect an already cynical tone from your post. However, he does some incredible work on the Slayer albums. I guess you just don't hear it.
Lars Ulrich of Metallica also used to be an amazing drummer until around 1991...
Really? I mean he sounds OK on the early Metallica albums, but to describe him as 'amazing'?
OK to you, amazing to me. His playing is so sensitive to the music at that speed that it amazes me. I'm talking amazing as in feeling - the effects he produced to drive the music and become part of Metallica's revolutionary sound - not amazing as in some kind of anal virtuosic technique that's going to send me to sleep straight away like the guy from Dream Theater - whatever his name is. Mega-yawnerama! 
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Xanadu
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 17:08 |
That australian dude...whats his name ohhh Virgil something and not to meantion that twelve year old boy, Tony Ruster, probably got that wrong, but that kiddo got THE speed.
But in the end i think it ought to be peart or portnoy
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 16:39 |
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Dave Lombardo is a great drummer. Very underrated. He has the speed and technique, but also some creativity that people overlook.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 16:19 |
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I have just been listening to The Very Best Of Asia and had forgotten Palmer was the original drummer.
I'm on track 4 and can see no reason whatsoever why he would be considered the best drummer(obviously I am already familiar with his work with ELP).He is just a very good drummer no more no less.Comparing him with Bruford and Peart is wishful thinking.
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Manunkind
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 16:09 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Dave Lombardo (ex Slayer) is a fantastic and criminally underrated drummer,
Or so I've heard, but there have to be some other recordings (other than those of Slayer or Fantomas) that showcase these skills?
Lars Ulrich of Metallica also used to be an amazing drummer until around 1991...
Really? I mean he sounds OK on the early Metallica albums, but to describe him as 'amazing'?
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 15:51 |
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Dave Lombardo (ex Slayer) is a fantastic and criminally underrated drummer, and Paul Whaley (ex Blue Cheer) developed an incredible (although arguably accidental) style. Lars Ulrich of Metallica also used to be an amazing drummer until around 1991...
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 15:45 |
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I really like Carl Palmer. Listen to Toccatta and KE9 and the choice is simple. He is nothing short of Buddy Rich.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 15:22 |
Moribund wrote:
Moribund wrote:
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Oh and best non-prog drummer: Stewart Copeland |
But Copeland was prog before he helped invent regatta de blanc - he was the last drummer of Curved Air - and somebody here reckoned he was married to CA's Sonja!
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Moribund
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 05:42 |
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Oh and best non-prog drummer: Stewart Copeland
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Moribund
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Posted: March 25 2005 at 05:41 |
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