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    Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:26

On allmusic.com they are listed as:

  • Electronic
  • Kraut Rock
  • Club/Dance
  • Proto-Punk
  • Experimental Rock
  • And since Neu! is here, maybe Kraftwerk should be here as well?

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:29
    maybe their first two albums.Possible,as well the pre-Kraftwerk ''Tone float''.All great stuff.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:32
    I have Die Mensch-Maschine and Trans-Europe Express and I really love some of it. I think their inclusion should be considered. I think I would say YES, more so because Neu! is already here.

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:39

    Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

    I have Die Mensch-Maschine and Trans-Europe Express and I really love some of it. I think their inclusion should be considered. I think I would say YES, more so because Neu! is already here.

    Tricky call on that one. If Kraftwerk is in as Neu! , then LA Dusseldorf should also come in. Kraftwerk is also very pop and this might get some people started on Devo

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:41

    I think Kraftwerk was FAR more experimental than Radiohead, Rhapsody or Marillion.

    Kraftwerk's music was based on rock music, was experimental, electronic, hypnotic etc... I say Krautrock!



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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:43
    Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

    Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

    I have Die Mensch-Maschine and Trans-Europe Express and I really love some of it. I think their inclusion should be considered. I think I would say YES, more so because Neu! is already here.

    Tricky call on that one. If Kraftwerk is in as Neu! , then LA Dusseldorf should also come in. Kraftwerk is also very pop and this might get some people started on Devo

    yes you've got to be very carefull with these type of bands,the reason i drew a line at their second album.

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    Electronica is definately a prgressive sub-genre - Usually because the music can be long, instrumental and complicated.

    Tomita anybody ???

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:51
    And Squarepusher, very progressive
    We Lost the Skyline............


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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:54
    Originally posted by Swinton MCR Swinton MCR wrote:

    Tomita anybody ???

    I think Tomita is out of scope. Then why not also Glass , Riley and other minimalists.

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:57
    Glass and Riley is not really rock music anymore. Glass and Riley is (modern) classical music and Kraftwerk is on the edge of rock and pure electronics (pop?)
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 08:59
    Originally posted by Zero the hero Zero the hero wrote:

    maybe their first two albums.Possible,as well the pre-Kraftwerk ''Tone float''.All great stuff.


    Not forgetting the wonderful,transitional album Ralf & Florian.

    Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 09:01

    Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

    Glass and Riley is not really rock music anymore. Glass and Riley is (modern) classical music and Kraftwerk is on the edge of rock and pure electronics (pop?)

    I was referring to Tomita regarding that statement.

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    Originally posted by Swinton MCR Swinton MCR wrote:

    Electronica is definately a prgressive sub-genre - Usually because the music can be long, instrumental and complicated.

    Tomita anybody ???

    O yes i have a lot of Isoa Tomita.Was only playing his rendition of 'Pictures at an exhibition' the other day.I still chuckle at the piece ''Chickens hatching out of there eggs''

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 09:11
    Originally posted by Zero the hero Zero the hero wrote:

    O yes i have a lot of Isoa Tomita.Was only playing his rendition of 'Pictures at an exhibition' the other day.I still chuckle at the piece ''Chickens hatching out of there eggs''



    That track brings back memories.Alan Freeman would use it as a segue on his Saturday Show whenever he could,which in hind-sight,was quite often.

    Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 09:47

    Well, I voted 'yes' because of their early stuff. I like what I've heard of their 1970s work and have Autobahn on CD myself, which - for its time - was very progressive music (not to mention good) in my opinion.

     

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 10:07

    Ralf Hütter et Florian Schneider au début des années 70

    YES how can you say no to this photo!!! Their Rock-ish in this one!

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 10:09
    Stratovarius, Ruckzuck, Kometenmolodie 1 and 2 are the most Progressive Tracks
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 10:11

    Cool Eletronics!! (Very Prog)

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 10:11

    1 & 2 until autobahn should be included, this is prog music!

    megahertz is one of the finest prog track of all time

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 10:29

    The problem is: there isn't a section to include just a few albums.

    Include them all!

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