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maani
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Joined: January 30 2004
Location: United States
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 20:43 |
Who's "Sock's Bread?"...
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Hangedman
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 03 2004
Location: Canada
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Points: 1261
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 21:20 |
Hard choice, ITCOCK, elp, gentle giant are the best of the ones ive heard but in the end ill give it up to GG. If anyone votes FGTR by genesis ill faint
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dropForge
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Joined: April 24 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 608
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 21:52 |
Gotta go with ELP. I love KC, but I prefer the era beginning with Larks'...
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Trotsky
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Joined: October 25 2004
Location: Malaysia
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Points: 2771
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 22:15 |
In The Court Of The Crimson King ... even though Piper At The Gates is a unique document of psychedelic rock ... and recently I've found myself enjoying both the ELP and GG self-titled debuts when both bands seems to be at their least self-conscious (and still made outstanding music!)
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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gdub411
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Joined: August 24 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 3484
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 23:28 |
A close race between Script and ITCHYCOCK...I gave it to Marillion.
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Cygnus X-2
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Joined: December 24 2004
Location: Bucketheadland
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Posted: March 17 2005 at 23:31 |
I prefer Rush's debut (some good zeppelin-esque tunes), but from the choices I'd say Marillion.
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Calvo
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Joined: January 25 2005
Location: Portugal
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Points: 127
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 04:23 |
Spock's Beard - "The Light"
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 28107
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 05:23 |
Crimson closely followed by ELP.
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Forgotten Son
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Joined: March 13 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 1356
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 05:29 |
Script for me, every time. Great debut album with one of the best opening lines of any album: "So here I am once more...". Great stuff.
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Certif1ed
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Joined: April 08 2004
Location: England
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 06:53 |
Script, ITCOTCK, Piper
I don't care how inconsistent Piper is - it has a unique charm and is madly experimental. It encapsultes not only an era, but also means of self-expression through music that are many-fold and more complex than a casual listen would suggest.
ITCOTCK - speaks for itself, really. Groundbreaking, a landmark - arguably the first prog rock album proper, superlative execution of carefully thought-out and composed music, and varied in style. The only drawback is the production - although even that can be argued to have a nostalgic charm. Like Piper, it does suffer a little from inconsistency.
Script just has it all (apart from the drums, maybe - but nothing's perfect). Driven by Fish's inspirational lyrics and strong melodies, close attention to drama, both lyrically and musically, Script is more convincingly in the progressive rock domain than Piper or ITCOTCK. It both shows and explores possibilites in rock song writing, rather than getting distracted by wierd sojurns into other genres or feeling the need to impress the audience with OTT virtuosity. A clear example of where the music is everything and the show is simply something to highlight the expression of the music rather than the other way around. There are simply no consistency issues with Script - it is a near-perfect unfolding of musical ideas supporting the lyrical events in the life of an archetype.
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Metropolis
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Joined: December 20 2004
Location: Scotland
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Points: 760
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 06:54 |
Gotta go with ITCHYCOCK
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We Lost the Skyline............
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Syzygy
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Joined: December 16 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 7003
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 07:01 |
Freak Out is one of the most remarkable debuts of the last 50 years, though it's not really prog. Gentle Giant's debut was also splendid, though there was much better to come.
Am I the only person who thinks that ITCOTCK is overrated and sounds very dated? I like it, but it's not a patch on what was to come.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Blacksword
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Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 07:06 |
Script for a jesters tear
ITCOTCK
ELP
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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FloydWright
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Joined: January 20 2005
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Points: 369
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 14:21 |
Kaztor, what a clever signature pic!
I don't know many of these, but I think Piper is way overrated.
At this time, my favorite debut album is Symphony X...by Symphony X. Yes, the production is bad. Yes, the lead vocalist they had then sounds like a girl. Yet musically, they are much closer to fully-realized than a lot of bands are at that point. I think of that album as a diamond in the rough.
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Lunarscape
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Joined: September 19 2004
Location: Brazil
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Points: 374
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 15:10 |
DRUID - Towards The Sun.....
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Lunar
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Music Is The Soul Bird That Flies In The Immense Heart Of The Listener . . .
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Pixel Pirate
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Joined: September 11 2004
Location: Norway
Status: Offline
Points: 793
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 15:36 |
Cluster One wrote:
"ITCHYCOCK" and "PATGOD" |
Well,I have had an itchy cock for many years now so I don't think I'll ever get to pat God.
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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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Pixel Pirate
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Location: Norway
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Points: 793
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 15:39 |
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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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Gentle Ronnie
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Joined: March 17 2005
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Points: 540
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 16:05 |
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Certif1ed
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Joined: April 08 2004
Location: England
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Points: 7559
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 16:11 |
FloydWright wrote:
I don't know many of these, but I think Piper is way overrated.
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I don't know why, but I hate the term "overrated" - it seems so meaningless - especially when applied to such a fantastic album...
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Reed Lover
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Joined: July 16 2004
Location: Sao Tome and Pr
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Posted: March 18 2005 at 16:22 |
Pixel Pirate wrote:
Cluster One wrote:
"ITCHYCOCK" and "PATGOD" |
Well,I have had an itchy cock for many years now so I don't think I'll ever get to pat God.
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I was going to patent that joke but realised it is so obvious that some dope-addled hippy probably beat me to it 35 years ago
No offense Jim Garten BTW
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