Debut Albums
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Topic: Debut Albums
Posted By: Man With Hat
Subject: Debut Albums
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:21
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Gentle Giant ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:24
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Script gets my vote given these options. Lucifer`s Friend`s first album is probably my favourite debut.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:25
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No doubt about it. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King  ------------- 
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Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:26
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I'll go for Marillion - Since I can't Have IQ - Tales from the lush attic..... ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: JCProg
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:30
| I voted for Hybris as it is my favorite of the listed albums. |
Posted By: starofsirius
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:31
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Piper at the Gates of Dawn ------------- "I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down." |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:36
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A toss between Gentle Giant and Hybris for me. I remember I'd avoided
the former for some time because I'd heard that it was weak in
comparison to their other releases, but even on their debut Gentle
Giant were still proggier than the average prog band! And as for Hybris... there can be no doubting the strength of that album! It's a mind-blower and no mistake! |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 15:53
| I think it's KC ITCOTCK, but Pink Floyd's "Piper" is a close second, imo. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:13
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Riverside-Out Of Myself. A devastatingly good debut that is as good as most of the above. Though not in the same class as "Script" it is better than either the debut Yes or Genesis offerings although in no sense pioneering.I have big hopes for this lot..
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:16
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Script for A Jester's tear. It had a mature sound, and as an immediate classic, same goes for ITCOTCK, where most debut albums are not the best work from the given artist those two are. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:36
Marillion because it's the the one that sounds least (of the ones I've heard) like they're "finding their feet" apart from ELP, and for some reason I haven't been in much of an ELP mood these past few days..!  . However from a historical point of view, KC, GG, VdGG, PF (what a lot of acronyms), Yes and Genesis have all gone on to create albums which build on their debuts and create which I find truly stunning (while I love Marillion, apart from the first few times I've heard them they never "blow me away" in quite the same way as the aforementioned) . If I had the choice of any (prog) debut, it'd probably be the Soft Machine's though.
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 16:52
"ITCHYCOCK" and "PATGOD"
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:05
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I'm gonna go for Sock's Bread. Besides the fact that the misspelling made me laugh (I'm a simpleton, I know), I think "The Light" is an amazing debut album, sounding like a fully-realized band at their peak. I don't think SB ever did any better. KC's debut is classic, but since it's not among my favorite KC albums I can't honestly vote for it. But it was outstandingly original, and arguably started prog. ELP's debut is still my favorite album by the band, but again- it's not without flaws, and doesn't really represent the 'sound' of ELP as well as other released. The same goes for Freak Out and Piper: great albums and impressive debuts but not really what the respective bands were all about, or came to be about. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: 3rd Impression
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:09
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Got to be King crimson's debut without a doubt.
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Posted By: Kaztor
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:24
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I voted for King Crimson. Soft Machine Volume 1 should've been added. |
Posted By: Winterfamily
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:28
| My vote is for "Piper At the Gates of Dawn", too. |
Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:47
Marillion - Script For A Jester's Tear. What a great debut!
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Posted By: 3rd Impression
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 17:53
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ELP's debut is without a doubt fantastic but i would vote for Genesis 'Trespass' if it were the debut,shame it was'nt.
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 18:51
| Soon as Dream Theater's "When Dream And Day Unite" isn't there, I went with Yes' "Yes". |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 18:54
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ITCOTCK! then Hybris then Piper |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 20:43
Who's "Sock's Bread?"...
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 21:20
| Hard choice, ITCOCK, elp, gentle giant are the best of the ones ive heard but in the end ill give it up to GG. If anyone votes FGTR by genesis ill faint |
Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 21:52
| Gotta go with ELP. I love KC, but I prefer the era beginning with Larks'... |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 22:15
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In The Court Of The Crimson King ... even though Piper At The Gates is a unique document of psychedelic rock ... and recently I've found myself enjoying both the ELP and GG self-titled debuts when both bands seems to be at their least self-conscious (and still made outstanding music!) ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 23:28
| A close race between Script and ITCHYCOCK...I gave it to Marillion. |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 17 2005 at 23:31
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I prefer Rush's debut (some good zeppelin-esque tunes), but from the choices I'd say Marillion. ------------- 
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Posted By: Calvo
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 04:23
| Spock's Beard - "The Light" |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 05:23
| Crimson closely followed by ELP. |
Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 05:29
| Script for me, every time. Great debut album with one of the best opening lines of any album: "So here I am once more...". Great stuff. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 06:53
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Script, ITCOTCK, Piper I don't care how inconsistent Piper is - it has a unique charm and is madly experimental. It encapsultes not only an era, but also means of self-expression through music that are many-fold and more complex than a casual listen would suggest. ITCOTCK - speaks for itself, really. Groundbreaking, a landmark - arguably the first prog rock album proper, superlative execution of carefully thought-out and composed music, and varied in style. The only drawback is the production - although even that can be argued to have a nostalgic charm. Like Piper, it does suffer a little from inconsistency. Script just has it all (apart from the drums, maybe - but nothing's perfect). Driven by Fish's inspirational lyrics and strong melodies, close attention to drama, both lyrically and musically, Script is more convincingly in the progressive rock domain than Piper or ITCOTCK. It both shows and explores possibilites in rock song writing, rather than getting distracted by wierd sojurns into other genres or feeling the need to impress the audience with OTT virtuosity. A clear example of where the music is everything and the show is simply something to highlight the expression of the music rather than the other way around. There are simply no consistency issues with Script - it is a near-perfect unfolding of musical ideas supporting the lyrical events in the life of an archetype. |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 06:54
Gotta go with ITCHYCOCK
------------- We Lost the Skyline............ 
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 07:01
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Freak Out is one of the most remarkable debuts of the last 50 years, though it's not really prog. Gentle Giant's debut was also splendid, though there was much better to come. Am I the only person who thinks that ITCOTCK is overrated and sounds very dated? I like it, but it's not a patch on what was to come. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 07:06
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Script for a jesters tear ITCOTCK ELP ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: FloydWright
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 14:21
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Kaztor, what a clever signature pic!
I don't know many of these, but I think Piper is way overrated. At this time, my favorite debut album is Symphony X...by Symphony X. Yes, the production is bad. Yes, the lead vocalist they had then sounds like a girl. Yet musically, they are much closer to fully-realized than a lot of bands are at that point. I think of that album as a diamond in the rough. |
Posted By: Lunarscape
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 15:10
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DRUID - Towards The Sun.....
_________ Lunar ------------- Music Is The Soul Bird That Flies In The Immense Heart Of The Listener . . . |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 15:36
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Well,I have had an itchy cock for many years now so I don't think I'll ever get to pat God. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Cluster One wrote:Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 15:39
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Kaztor,your cat picture is the funniest things I have ever seen! ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 16:05
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ITCHYCOCK. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 16:11
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I don't know why, but I hate the term "overrated" - it seems so meaningless - especially when applied to such a fantastic album...
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 16:22
I was going to patent that joke but realised it is so obvious that some dope-addled hippy probably beat me to it 35 years ago No offense Jim Garten BTW -------------
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 17:50
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I went with Piper At The Gates Of Dawn since it was the only one on the list I know well, other than Yes (meh) and In The Court...(I am a much bigger fan of the MKII lineup).
Interestingly, my favorite debut album of all time is by King's X (not really prog, more psychedelic groove-metal with Beatles vocals), Out Of The Silent Planet. They are probably my third favorite band of all time after Rush & Floyd. |
Posted By: plodder
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 17:54
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ELP wins hands down. It has the best opening track of all time. It wins just because of that. The Three Fates is a stunning piece of music and Take a Pebble is the perfect song. Asia's debut is pretty good too. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 18:22
| IQ's 'Tales From The Lush Attic' deserves a mention as well.Starting with a twenty minute track was a bold thing to do in 1983! |
Posted By: Xanadu
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 18:29
| Damn...didnt see hybris was on the list. Anywho ICOTCK must be the best debut album...ever. Or as some said "KING CRIMSON was birthed a titan" |
Posted By: CrimsonKing
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 20:03
In the Court of the Crimson King ------------- RED EYE |
Posted By: FloydWright
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 21:48
Maybe you hate it because you like Piper. And seriously, the album really is not what it's cracked up to be by so many. It's treated like a masterpiece by so many when in fact it's just 60s Britpop in most places. I mean, sorry, but drugs do not a genius make. |
Posted By: billyshears'67
Date Posted: March 18 2005 at 22:10
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FREAK OUT! - 1966 Peace & take care  |
Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 06:54
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In the Court of the Crimson king was, is and will always be the best album ever made!!!!!! All you need is Fripp, Lake and Sinfield
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Posted By: 3rd Impression
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 07:27
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Without a doubt it's a fantastic album...I doubt if would have been half as good without Greg lake though.
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 07:34
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Yes, take off Lake, and I'd have to vote for ELP
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: March 19 2005 at 08:04
As far as I can ascertain, "underrated" means unpopular, and "overrated" popular..! |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 13:49
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Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 14:13
Toss up between Crimson and Floyd...... But im going to have to go with King Crimson, because it is undoubtedly the best debut album ever released, impact wise. I really like Piper at the gates musically, but as far as initial impact, nobody can top King Crimson ------------- 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 15:43
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Posted By: FloydWright
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 16:10
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But if somebody feels that it is popular for little to no reason, then it ought to make sense that they are using that word. And no, I don't like it--I think it's shoddily produced. The experimentation sometimes goes to where it's incoherent (the drugs, likely), and the other songs are just so syrupy-poppy that it's riduculous, and really distasteful.
Because of all of this, it really isn't a masterpiece. Plus, if you brush up on your Pink Floyd history, that band was trying to get radio success. They were definitely trying to be poppy. As for the issue with drugs, they will only hinder what abilities a person has. While there may be more spontaneous expression at times, that is nothing compared to what is planned and thought out by a lucid mind. And where did you get your information about Beethoven and drugs? If he really did, then it becomes even more of a wonder that he composed what he did, because undoubtedly his work would've been even more impressive without it. One should not require some kind of chemical crutch in order to think and create; something is really wrong with that kind of logic. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 06:23
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Posted By: topographic2112
Date Posted: March 26 2005 at 09:17
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Hear hear!!! My pick as well. ------------- "Rock is the medium of our generation." - Yes - "Release, Release" |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: March 26 2005 at 09:25
camel camel?  -------------  
Reed's failed joke counter: ||||| R.I.P. You could have reached infinity.... |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 26 2005 at 11:20
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marillion - script a special mention to pendragon - the jewel (fly high fall far is too short to be an LP) ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Keke
Date Posted: March 26 2005 at 12:18
| King Crimson, without even stopping to think about it. |
Posted By: koolboee cdmo87
Date Posted: May 21 2005 at 20:30
| I agree with FW -- I always thought Piper at the Gates of Dawn got a lot more praise than it deserves. I think a few songs are absolutely brilliant (namely: "Astronomy Domine", "Matilda Mother", "Interstellar Overdrive", "Chapter 24") and a couple songs are always very good if not innovative ("Lucifer Sam" and "Bike"), but a lot of them are incredibly cheesy and too incoherent to get any real meaning out of them. |
Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 04:53
| Given the choice I voted for Marillion but agree with Riverside being a good 'un |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 22 2005 at 21:25
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I can't stand most of KC's work but ITCOTCK is a masterpiece! got my vote! how does marillion have so many votes. so derivative. ------------- 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 03:07
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"Script..." is not derivative - it is a MASTERPIECE!!! That is why it has so many votes |
Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 05:18
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King Crimson! I just love that album gotta be one of my favourite except for the end of Moonchild! Mike Giles just so awesome! The start of something really big! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Philrod/?chartstyle=Geldropdown-small"> 
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Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: May 23 2005 at 07:23
| No doubt: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King!!! |
Posted By: Grimm
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 00:07
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King Crimson. (duhh...) ------------- Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be or seem to be self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time. |
Posted By: Pablo_P
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 07:43
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KING CRIMSON and MARILLION... of course "In the court..." is one of the most influential albums in prog rock... ------------- Pablo P. |
Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 03:44
| Can't beat Crimson here. The others are great but none were as well done musically AND made as much an impact on the prog music scene. Piper and Script for a Jester's Tear come close but IMO are not on the same level of Crimson's ItCotCK musically. |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 18:44
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King Crimson for sure
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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 15:18
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Great King Crimson debut is the best one ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know... Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul... |
Posted By: Laurent
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 15:21
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Not Prog. But Led Zep I gets my vote.
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 15:24
| ELP - ELP |
Posted By: Laurent
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 17:53
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I'm currently rediscovering Script For A Jester’s Tear, and it's pretty damn good. I was absolutely in love with this album(as with all Fish Era Marillion) when I was younger. -------------
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 17:58
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RIVERSIDE ""OUT OF MYSELF"""
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 18:01
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I would have voted for High Tide's "Sea Shanties" as best debut album,
but it is not on the list. I really wonder why Gentle Giant did not get
more votes; their first album is excellent. So it gets my vote here.
-------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 18:13
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Of those listed, Marillion's excellent Script for a Jester's Tear - by a mile. Most of the rest are very ordinary or really poor (I haven't heard Anglagard's Hybris) Horslip's brilliant Happy to Meet, Sorry to Part annihilates all of them and Camel is as good as any. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 18:21
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Amon Düül 2's "Phallus Dei" or Embryo's "Opal" come to my mind, as well
as Can's "Monster Movie". And how about Gryphon's first self-titled
album? Or Magma's?
------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 18:25
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Well of course KC. Then Script. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 18:32
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The first album of Atomic Rooster is another stunning debut.
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Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 18:33
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I went with Marillion Chelsea Mondaaaaaaay! But to be honest I prefer Fugazi |
Posted By: AngleofRepose
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 19:16
| I'll take Anglagard. Of course, ITCOTCK is damn impressive. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 20:03
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From the list I vote for ITCOTCK and close behind Anglagard but you let alot of genres outside the box.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 20:12
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Anglagard and their wonderful debut,Hybris. -------------  |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 22 2006 at 02:54
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King Crimson and Marillion stand out. I voted for Script, there are such great songs on it. Each song is classic in my book. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: February 22 2006 at 19:52
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KC's ITCOTCK ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: February 22 2006 at 20:44
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ELP, even though I don't think it counts because all three of them had already made debut albums with other groups. ------------- My recent purchases: 
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Posted By: Violenza
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 07:30
| 'Gentle Giant'. They have so few votes, as well as Frank Zappa's 'Freak Out!', yet they are two groundbreaking albums. |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 07:43
I voted for FLOYD, but YES and ELP debuts are also amazing! 
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 07:55
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Marillion debut is my FAVOURITEST album for ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So,I voted for it 
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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 08:02
| I think that hybris and In The Court Of The Crimson King are two outstanding debut albums, but i went with Hybris, the best album i've ever listened |
Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 08:03
| It should be De Loused In The Cromatorium on the options |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 14:44
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Court of the Crimson King took everybody by surprise because it was so good, so different and from some guys no one had ever heard of. And just as FM radio was getting a foothold in the public ear. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 14:57
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Pain Of Salvation- Entropia! But the best on that list is Spock's Beard! |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 18:09
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King Crimson for me! ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 04:21
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Another great debuts:
Sinkadus - Aurum Nostrum Kaipa - Kaipa Locanda Delle Fate - Forse le Lucciole non si amano piu PFM - Storia di un Minuto Watch - Ghost IQ - Tales from the Lush Attic Pallas - Arrive Alive Red Sand - Mirror of Insanity
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Posted By: Gary the Ghoul
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 12:01
| VU & NIco is by far the best debut album IMHO,but from the above,i'd have to say This Was is the best |
Posted By: Paleviper
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 17:27
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Of the ones available it has to be 'In the Court of the Crimson King'
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Paleviper/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: February 26 2006 at 14:07
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King Crimson, Marillion, Anglagard and ELP are the only ones on there whose debuts were considered amound their best work. And In the Court of The Crimson King is the best of those 3 in my opinion. ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: February 26 2006 at 14:15
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Crimson King -King Crimson
------------- http://www.lastfm.pl/user/tomash33 - Last.fm |