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Poll Question: ...Should they be outlawed?
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    Posted: March 02 2005 at 15:31
Personally I find nothing marrs a great studio cut more than a couple of minutes of mindless unaccompanied bashing, and after jazz, prog must be the worst offender for this sort of thing. Live, of course, it's another matter, but on studio albums? Blerk!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 15:59
Indeed, completely useless and annoying.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 16:11
I like clever drum fills on studio albums but have to agree with you that they are kind of out of place in the studio environment. The only one I can think of that actually works is Carmine Appice`s solo on Jan Akkerman`s Tabernakel. solo album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 16:12
Phil Ehart's on Incomudro - Hymn To The Atman works well.

This might be because Kansas is lacking in tons of live releases. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 16:26
Some are interesting until after many listenings. I voted no if they are under two minutes. Most are tedious if longer( the exception being the drum solo on Iron Butterfly's studio version of In A Gadda Da Vida!) 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 18:02
I dislike drum solos in general. Some manages to get my attention (Mike Portnoy's on "Live At Budokan"), but in general it all sounds like random bashing to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 18:06
There are some very impressive solos. Check out Bill Bruford's "The Drum Also Waltzes" (originally a Max Roach comp) from one of the Moraz/Bruford albums. It's very classy and controlled.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 18:09
Moby Dick anyone? Anyone ever heard of Moby Friggen Dick?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 18:11
Dare I mention ELP's 'Tank' without copping a load of abuse?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 18:14

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Anyone ever heard of Moby Friggen Dick?

Sounds like a German porn star!Wink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 18:19
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Anyone ever heard of Moby Friggen Dick?

Sounds like a German porn star!Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 19:16
This poll disgusts me.

-Neil Peart drum fills make any and every Rush studio cut more enjoyable

-Drum intros to many of the songs on Billy Cobham's Spectrum album are very tasteful and well placed

how can you just generalize that way?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 19:22
Being a drummer is a very important matter to discuss. I agree that sometimes there is an overdose of percussion hits, and in the end, it makes the listener to press the "skip" dial, however, ther's a lot of great "mini" solos in records, only to feature a change, a bridge or a space, i wonder if you ever heard full-percussion albums?... i think not, so many people think that drumming is just as easy a grabbing a tenis racket (and that is another point of discussion) anyway, drumming is a very important part of music, and a good solo is a thing to remember, and of course a bad solo is just a waste of time. You have to be very careful with the records you hear and buy, beacuse in jazz and in fusion, soloing is an integral part of the main musical piece.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 19:41

richardh wrote:

Dare I mention ELP's 'Tank' without copping a load of abuse?

 

Now which do you prefer Rich.The original from there debut or the one on 'Works 1'?

 

Personally the drumming on the closing of King crimson's 'In the court' album does everything for me...Awesome.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 19:46

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Moby Dick anyone? Anyone ever heard of Moby Friggen Dick?

As a drummer, I can say that the STUDIO version is nothing spectacular (not dissing Bohnam at all, one of my fav's), but LIVE, that song is amazing. 

And I voted yes. The drums can solo, as long as it helps the song. (Sound Chaser, anyone?)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 20:23
Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Moby Dick anyone? Anyone ever heard of Moby Friggen Dick?

As a drummer, I can say that the STUDIO version is nothing spectacular (not dissing Bohnam at all, one of my fav's), but LIVE, that song is amazing. 

And I voted yes. The drums can solo, as long as it helps the song. (Sound Chaser, anyone?)

Actually that's the one that strikes me most as well, on the box DVD, the Moby Dick live is amazing, and also the Solo on "The Song Remains the Same." Like most Zep, Moby Dick really xomes alive when live (oh alliteration!).

Also as mentioned Tank is prett awesome. I just bought the first ELP album today. Truly aweosme all around, and Tank is no exception.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 20:28
Allan holdsorth's IOU album has a NECESSARY drum solo by gary husband!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 21:02

Originally posted by Rob The Plant Rob The Plant wrote:

Moby Dick anyone? Anyone ever heard of Moby Friggen Dick?

I was just going to say...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 21:13

Was really into drum solos at one point ... particularly ...

Ginger Baker in Cream's studio version of Toad
Ron Bushy in Iron Butterfly's studio version of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
John Bonham in Led Zeppelin's studio version of Moby Dick

I prefer these studio versions to the much lengthier live versions ... but most of my favourite drum moments aren't from solos per se ... Ian Paice, BJ Wilson, Neil Peart, Phil Collins and Bill Bruford are awesome drummers whose regular playing I prefer to the odd solo moments I've heard (although I can only recall Paice and Peart solos right now)

I notice though that I have a big problem with the changes in the sounds of drums from the late 70s onwards ... and I've hardly liked any drumming since ...

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2005 at 21:38
Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

 

And I voted yes. The drums can solo, as long as it helps the song. (Sound Chaser, anyone?)

Actually it is a bit confusing. If you vote Non = No, it means that drum solos shouldn't be outlawed.

If you voted Oui = Yes, it means that drum solos should be outlawed.

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