Styx

I have noticed a lot of styx bashing on these boards. What is it exactly that's so horrible about Styx. Personally I like about half of Styx's works songs like "Blue Collar Man" and "Mr Roboto" are great. Why do prog people hate Styx?

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Re Styx, I don't think it is so much that anyone "hates" them (given that at least a few people are bound to hate a particular thing).  Rather, it is more likely a matter of how each member defines the term "prog rock" for themselves, and whether they consider Styx truly "prog" in the sense that that particular member believes.  For example, I personally do not believe that Styx fall under "prog" as I understand that term.  I may even like some of their stuff, but that does not mean I believe it is "progressive" in the definition that I have of "progressive."

Ultimately though, however I - or any individual member - might personally define "progressive," the only definition that "counts" at ProgArchives is the "official" one created by the site's webmasters.  I, and others, can "agree to disagree" about that definition.  However, where the site is concerned - and what bands are included, and what bands are not - that decision is at the sole and exclusive discretion of the webmasters.  They have chosen to include Styx on the site, and although I disagree with that decision, I nevertheless respect it.

Sorry for the long-winded answer...  Hope it's helpful.

Peace.

Video: I sincerely hope that your'e not a fan of Phil Collins also, if it is so you will be even more disappointed...

The fact is that those two artist in particular had become the "funny to mess with" in this forum. Nothing personal, is related to the perception of mundanity that they spread around. At least that's how I see it.

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Excu-u-u-use me?  You dare mention Styx in the same breath as Marillion, Genesis et al?  A plague on your house!

Marillion, Genesis, Styx, Mariah Carey, Boyzone, Andy Williams, Judy Garland, Westlife, Radiohead, ELP.

That lot should get the whole village cursed!

maani wrote:   Ultimately though, however I - or any individual member - might personally define "progressive," the only definition that "counts" at ProgArchives is the "official" one created by the site's webmasters.  I, and others, can "agree to disagree" about that definition.  However, where the site is concerned - and what bands are included, and what bands are not - that decision is at the sole and exclusive discretion of the webmasters.  They have chosen to include Styx on the site, and although I disagree with that decision, I nevertheless respect it. Peace.

 

Bloody hell Maani,you been a lawyerin a past life? Reminds me of the Sanity Clause sketch from the Marx Brothers "Animal Crackers"

Otis B. Driftwood (Groucho):Fiorello (Chico)

Driftwood: Says, "The party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part."

Fiorello: Sounds a little better this time.

Driftwood: Well, it grows on you...Would you like to hear it once more?

Fiorello: Ah...Just the first part.

Driftwood: What do you mean, the party of the first part?

Fiorello: No. The first part of the party of the first part.

Driftwood: Alright it says the umm..."The first part of the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the first part of the party of the first part, shall be known in this contract...LOOK...why should we quarrel about a thing like this. We'll take it right out eh? (Tears off sections of contract.)

Fiorello: Ha ha, it's too long anyhow! (rip rip) Now what do we got left?

Driftwood: Well, I've got about a foot and a half. Now it says, "The party of the second part shall be know in this contract as the party of the second part."

Fiorello: Well I don't know about that.

Driftwood: NOW what's the matter?

Fiorello: I don't like the second party either.

Driftwood: Well you should have been at the first party, we didn't get home till around four in the morning...I was blind for three days.

Fiorello: Ay...Look, why can't the first part of the second party be the second part of the first party? Thena you got something!

Driftwood: Well look...ah...Rather than go through all that again, what do you say? (Tears off another section.)

Fiorello: Fine.

Driftwood: Now...ah...Now I've got something here you're bound to like. You'll be crazy about it.

Fiorello: No, I don't like it.

Driftwood: You don't like what?

Fiorello: Whatever it is, I don't like it.

Driftwood: Well let's not break up an old friendship over a thing like that! Ready?

Fiorello: Okay. (rip) Now the next part I don't think you're gonna like.

Driftwood: Well your word's good enough for me...Now then, is my word good enough for you?

Fiorello: I should say not.

Driftwood: Well that takes out two more clauses. (rip) Now the party of the eighth part...

Fiorello: No. Nooo. (rip)

Driftwood: No? The party of the ninth...

Fiorello: No, that's no good too. (rip) Hey, how is it my contract is skinnier than yours?

Driftwood: I dunno, you musta been out on a tear last night. But anyhow we're all set now, aren't we?

Fiorello: Ah, sure.

Driftwood: Now just eh...(hands Fiorello a pen) Put your name right down there and then the deal is eh...Then the deal is legal.

Fiorello: Eh, I forgot to tell you. I can't write.

Driftwood: (shaking the pen) Well that's okay, there's no ink in the pen anyhow. But listen, it's a contract, isn't it?

Fiorello: Oh sure. You bet.

Driftwood: We've got a contract, no matter how small it is!

Fiorello: Hey wait, wait! What does this say here? This thing here?

Driftwood: Oh that. Oh that's the usual clause...that's in every contract. That just says...eh...it says...eh..."If any of the parties participating in this contract are shown not to be in their right mind, the entire agreement is automatically nullified."

Fiorello: Well, I don't know...

Driftwood: It's alright, that's in every contract! That's what they call a "sanity clause."

Fiorello: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...you can't fool me. There ain't no sanity clause!

 

Oh,suit yourelves-I like it!

As with Phil Collins, I can't say I have some sort of personal vendetta against Styx, but I would really love to hear why the admins have decided to include Styx into the archives. I don't say that cynically... I would just be generally interested to hear their arguments in favor of Styx. 

maani wrote: Reed Lover: Absolutely among the most brilliant skits in any Marx Bros. film.  By the way, although I never went as far as becoming a lawyer (i.e., going to law school and taking the Bar exam), I spent over a decade as a legal assistant (somewhere between a paralegal and an Associate), primarily in contract law.  I also served for 15 years as an Advocate in Manhattan Civil Court, including litigating in tenant-landlord, small claims and civil cases. Peace.

And with that paragraph it shows!

I think Styx may be regarded progressive because many people think that synths=prog. When there's really a bit more to it than that

The reason i dislike styx is because i spent years listening to my stepmom play all of thier material almost everyday, usually it would be just one album again and again in one day. I learned to hate them the hard way.