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    Posted: February 01 2005 at 10:33
Anytime I hear someone mention Moonmadness I always hear "diasppointing compared to the last 3" or "the only good piece is Lunar Sea".  I never hear any respect given to this piece.  It has always been my favorite Camel song and I love how each section and the emotional build and crescendo.

Respect this song and Moonmadness.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 10:36
I'm not a Camel expert, but Moonmadness is a great album and the song you mentioned is amazing.
Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 10:37
I agree
Moonmadness as a whole is a fantastic must have! btw, Another album
that I see that doenst get the credit it does is Rain Dances, my favorite if
you can't tell
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 10:38
I only have Mirage and The Snow Goose and I think Camel is a little overrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 10:48
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

I only have Mirage and The Snow Goose and I think
Camel is a little overrated.



Then I recommend you listen to the albums after them where their sound
evolved. Snow Goose and Mirage don't show off Andy Latimer's
musicianship as well as the later albums. Check out Moonmadness, Rain
Dances, and
Breathless
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 11:10

Azrael is right, IMO..

Latimers guitar talents only really come to the fore on subsequent albums. Mirage is a great album, but I think Moonmadness is even better. Its a real melodioc solo fest, brilliantly produced to give Latimers guitar work the clarity his solos deserve.

As for 'Song within a song' I love that track! It took a while though. When I first heard it, I thought it sounded weak, but you soon spot its beauty. Moonmadness is my favourite camel album!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 11:26

I Love Moonmadness - Possibly my favourite Camel production too..........I love the opening track Aristillus..............IN fact this CD hasn't got a weak track on it - Just simply Marvellous !

AND UNDERRATED

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 11:36
^ Yeah this is a great album and possibly my fave Camel record too. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 12:12

MOONMADNESS.
It's my favourite Camel album.
When it came out in 1976 I rated it higher than any Genesis album and I was a Genesis fanatic.The synth,Mellotron and guitar playing on that album is stunning.It was not off of my turntable for months.
As a 16 year old (in 1976)many an evening was spent in my bedroom refining my tennis racket guitar solos to this album. I didn't get out much then.Nothings changed.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 12:28
Must say that I can't pick my favourite between Camel's first 4 albums.
Actually I think they all are underrated, Moonmadness being nothing
short of fantastic. They would certainly deserve a place up there with
the big(gest) ones.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 12:54
Doesn't look like the song or the album are underrated here - both are superb!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 13:09

One of Camel's best albums. "Song within a Song" is such an amazing track too.

"I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 13:15

Originally posted by Azrael2112 Azrael2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

I only have Mirage and The Snow Goose and I think
Camel is a little overrated.



Then I recommend you listen to the albums after them where their sound
evolved. Snow Goose and Mirage don't show off Andy Latimer's
musicianship as well as the later albums. Check out Moonmadness, Rain
Dances, and
Breathless

who cares about musicianship, the songwriting on The Snow Goose is damn near flawless

I personally really enjoy moonmadnes and raindances, probably more than Mirage,

Aaron

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 13:23
After Mirage, their best album, both 4-5 stars. Rain dances appealed a little less to me, although it contains what I consider their best song (Tell me).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2005 at 13:48
Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

Originally posted by Azrael2112 Azrael2112 wrote:

[QUOTE=Joren] I only have
Mirage and The Snow Goose and I think Camel is a little overrated.[/
QUOTE] Then I recommend you listen to the albums after them where
their sound evolved. Snow Goose and Mirage don't show off Andy
Latimer's musicianship as well as the later albums. Check out
Moonmadness, Rain Dances, and Breathless


who cares about musicianship, the songwriting on The Snow Goose is
damn near flawless


I personally really enjoy moonmadnes and raindances, probably more
than Mirage,


Aaron




I completly agree, thought the snow goose doesnt show off what Latimer
can really do, the songwriting itself is top notch!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2005 at 00:57
Actually, "Song Within a Song" is the piece of music that brought me to
Camel in the first place. I loved it the first time I ever heard it.
Moonmadness remains one of my all time favorite prog albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2005 at 01:42

Camel, in general, is quite an underrated band ... I think it's their understated style myself ... I have the first six Camel albums and they are full of wonderful songs ... some widely acknowledged like Lunar Sea and Supertwister ... some less so like Mystic Queen and (gulp) Down On The Farm ... I should confess though that despite containing some great music, The Snow Goose is the album I enjoy the least ... I rate em ...

Mirage (by a country mile), Moonmadness, Rain Dances, Camel, Breathless and The Snow Goose

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2005 at 02:54
oh yea song within a song rocks...the drums really do it for me..cool interlude too
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2005 at 03:37

Man Erg wrote:


MOONMADNESS.
It's my favourite Camel album.
When it came out in 1976 I rated it higher than any Genesis album and I was a Genesis fanatic.The synth,Mellotron and guitar playing on that album is stunning.It was not off of my turntable for months.

 

Fully agree 'Moonmadness'..Hey man erg nice picture of the pussy album..bet you aint got it on vinyl?££££££££

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2005 at 07:12

I've just been pondering over the desert island disc thread. My first reaction was The Snow Goose, but its a close call with Moonmadness.

I learned the keys parts for Song Within A Song for a band audition many years ago. They were too precious to play covers though!

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