Led Zeppelin

Rob The Plant wrote: This thread is dead, we've decided not to add Zeppelin, and in my opinion Queen should not be added either. Boundaries, we need boundaries. I started this because Autograph was added, but Manni said it was a mistake and took them off, so I'm settled. If you want to suggest any bands there's a particular forum for that, and I believe Queen has been brought up already. So many new bands.

, sorry if anything i said offended you buddy. put it behind us?

Rob The Plant wrote: Dick Heath wrote: the musical box wrote:   Led Zeppelin 1: This record pushed rock music into new territory: Nothing like this had ever been done before.   Can't agree. Several elements of early LZ albums, went back to Jeff Beck (in fact quite a few of us early LZ fans used look out for the lifts from earlier Beck albums, e.g. compare Hangsman's Knee and, Gallows Pole ) - and then Jeff Beck reckons he was trying do something wrt heavy rock along the lines of Vanilla Fudge (explaining Beck Boggert Appice). Have a listen to Jeff Beck's Truth (which had John Paul Jones and Keith Moon, the latter gave rise to LZ's name, in on the sessions) and certainly (Cosa Nostra) Beckola . If Keith Moon and Page started a new band it would go down like a Lead Zeppelin. I think it was Led Zeppelin's on stage performance that put them over anyone else in the beginning, because of their improvisation, although the album is also very electric.

Jeff Beck let Jimmy Page steal away with the heavy rock idea, partly because Beck's interests kept changing direction (aka attention span), and a bad motor accident didn't help. Check the changes and different musics on the following released over  10 years:

Truth - early British rock, blues, heaviness and covers (and yet another version of Ol Man River), and Rod Stewart sounding great and still audience shy.

(Cosa Nostra) Beckola: some might say Led Zeppelin 0 -classic line-up of Beck, Stewart, Ron Wood (still a bass player), Nicky Hopkins (who actually toured with this line-up)  and Tony Newman (who was then to go off and dabble in early British heavy rock with May Blitz). Stewart and Wood formed the ultimate pub band, the  Faces with the remaining Small Faces (Marriott had gone to playing boogie rock with pretty boy Peter Frampton, fresh from the Herd).

The Orange Album (that's how was sold in the early 70's because of  picture of an orange on the sleeve - like the misnamed Beatles White Album) but strictly the first of two The Jeff Beck Group LPs- e.g. with Bob Tench, Cozy Powell, Max Middleton etc.  (Middletone was to bring Beck towards a jazzier style). The second album was Rough & Ready. Music: blues rock - never worked out why the last track on the first JBG album changed its name from LP to CD - on the LP it is called Raynes Park Blues (having spent several wet Sunday afternoons in Raynes Park in the early 70's, this tune captured the feeling very well).

Beck Boggart Appice: (sort of Cream meets LZ meets Vanilla Fudge, power trio). Japanese only double live LP as well. Broke up after one studio recording, but apparently were rarely sober on tour. I must have been fortunate to catch them on sober night in the English Midlands, when I saw one of my favourite gigs ever - support (Pete Bank's) Flash also in fine form. Appice played in Rod Stewart's later Vegas-oriented bands.

In the meanwhile Beck was playing with Stevie Wonder  (I think on Superstition and albums from that period).

Wired: Jeff Beck's first jazz rock album. Max Middleton and Jan Hammer featured separately as keyboard and tune-writers/arrangers. A rather unsubtle message with the tune Led Boots ?

Blow By Blow: the second jazz rock album with Jan Hammer now fully taken over from Max Middleton. (In the meanwhile Middleton also formed a spin off band, Hummingbird, with some members of The Jeff Beck Group; later recorded with guitarist Robert Awai on the  jazz specialist label spun from Harvest Records in the late 70's and then played with Geordie, Chris Rea's Band for many years).

Jeff Beck with Jan Hammer Group: Live (in London) a mix of Beck and Hammer Group studio tracks played live - seem to be having fun. Jan Hammer keeps reappearing through Beck's subsequent career - most recently touring with Beck in the UK in early summer 2004.

BTW check out Beck playing with John McLaughlin, covering a Modern Jazz Quartet tune, Django, on McLaughlin's (great and very varied album) The Promise - is on the playlist for my radio show tomorrow night, concentrating this week only on good cover versions.

This thread is dead, we've decided not to add Zeppelin, and in my opinion Queen should not be added either. Boundaries, we need boundaries. I started this because Autograph was added, but Manni said it was a mistake and took them off, so I'm settled. If you want to suggest any bands there's a particular forum for that, and I believe Queen has been brought up already.

So many new bands.

Swinton MCR wrote: Abba - Abba - Abba, You Cad Sir!, I listened to Genesis and some more Genesis and then a bit more Genesis, then some Yes then a lot of Yes then some ELP and a Camel or two then Twelfth night and IQ and marillion and.................. But of course I heard Abba at every single "Do" and pub I went in, thus I heard a lot of Abba too

Funny I could never get into Genesis or Yes, still can't  I worry that i can never truly be a prog fan when i dislike those two major bands...

BTW I'm a lady! not a sir

Oliver- I love 'No Quarter' its an amazing song, beautiful guitar midway and Roberts voice is really emotional.

Abba - Abba - Abba, You Cad Sir!, I listened to Genesis and some more Genesis and then a bit more Genesis, then some Yes then a lot of Yes then some ELP and a Camel or two then Twelfth night and IQ and marillion and..................

But of course I heard Abba at every single "Do" and pub I went in, thus I heard a lot of Abba too

Swinton MCR wrote: Aaaargh - Another band I ignored in my youth, Led Zep - Am I going to find untold prog jems upon their albums........I SHOULD BE TOLD !!!

How on earth could  you have ignored Led Zep! What did you listen to in your youth?  Abba?