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    Posted: June 28 2005 at 15:45

Okay, I'm going to spend a few bucks and purchase some more prog albums. My first love is all styles of jazz and 20th century "classical" music (what else can we call it - concert or symphonic music?).

I want to explore some more prog. Some groups I have include Yes, Jethro Tull, Kansas. I've heard some prog Genesis but don't own any albums. I've had a Rush CD, but it went to the bad for some reason.

The next few albums I'd like to buy include:

1) Yes- Closer to the Edge

2) King Crinsom- In the Court of King Crimson

3) Rush - 2112

4) Pink Floyd - ?

5) Genesis- ?

I left 4 & 5 blank because I'm not sure which one to start with....maybe Dark Side with Floyd but what about Genesis? Is that a good Pink Floyd choice to begin with? Any suggestions or comments will be appreciated.

I don't know how deep I want to get into this because I'm so devoted to jazz; however, I'll go where ever good music happens to be, and I've been enjoying the Yes albums that I have which includes Fragile and The Yes Album ( I also enjoy Magnification to an extent.)

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2005 at 16:09
Try Mother Gong - "Fairy Tales". One of the unknown gems of prog rock.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2005 at 16:24

Pink Floyd, personally i would recommend "Wish you were Here" as a start. Dark Side of the moon is also great.

For genesis, my first album was Foxtrot, and I recommend you to start there, but also "selling egland by the pound" is great.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2005 at 16:42

Pink Floyd...it has to be Animals.

Genesis...Foxtrot.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2005 at 17:02

Yeah, what they said, start with Foxtrot or Selling England for Genesis, and either Animals or Wish You Were Here.

By the way, have you tried any Canterbury, or Jazz Fusion, since you're a big jazz fan? Some great purchases would include the following bands: Hatfield and the North, Brand X, Bruford, Soft Machine (from Third on), and Gilgamesh.

Also, if you're a big fan of classical, I would suggest checking out the Enid or Clearlight.  Both very classical sounding prog rock bands, with little or no vocals.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2005 at 21:48
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Yeah, what they said, start with Foxtrot or Selling England for Genesis, and either Animals or Wish You Were Here.

By the way, have you tried any Canterbury, or Jazz Fusion, since you're a big jazz fan? Some great purchases would include the following bands: Hatfield and the North, Brand X, Bruford, Soft Machine (from Third on), and Gilgamesh.

Also, if you're a big fan of classical, I would suggest checking out the Enid or Clearlight.  Both very classical sounding prog rock bands, with little or no vocals.

I've heard of only a few of the fusion bands listed on this website like Return to Forever, M. Orchestra, and Dixie Dregs. I've been a big fan of Pat Metheny for about 12 years now. I also love Al di Meola on the guitar. Chick Corea is awesome. There are others - Whether Report, for instance - that I enjoy.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2005 at 21:59

Tonight, I finally took the plunge and bought Floyd's Dark Side......heard some of the song already.

I'll have to listen to it a few more times before I can make a judgement on it. "Money"....gosh, who hasn't heard that song.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 10:29

Genesis,  sellig England by the pound naturally, and trick of the Tail.

Gentle giant is always a good choice

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2005 at 21:49
For a jazz fan, I must reiterate the point made by The Doctor: try out some Canterbury, I think you'd really dig it. Good albums to start:

Caravan - In The Land Of Grey And Pink
National Health - self-titled debut
Hatfield & The North - either self-titled debut or The Rotter's Club
Soft Machine - Third
Matching Mole - Self-titled debut
Gong - Shamal (a later album by them with different musicians and sound, but this is jazzier than the psychedelic/space sound of their earlier albums)

Try 'em out, what can go wrong?

PS - For Floyd get Animals next, Genesis - Selling England..., and Yes - Close To The Edge: all three are five star must haves.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 05:56

My suggestions:

Pink Floyd - Animals

Genesis - Trespass

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 06:40

As a jazz (especially fusion) lover myself have you heard/do you own these?

  • Jeff Beck - Blow by Blow
  • Area - Crac!
  • Horacee Arnold - Tales of the Exonerated Flea
  • Passport - Looking Thru
  • Arti + Mestieri - Tilt
  • Bozzio Levin Stevens - Situation Dangerous
  • Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior
  • Bill Bruford's Earthworks - Footloose and Fancy Free
  • Tony Williams - Emergency!
  • Frank Zappa - Hot Rats, Waka-Jawaka, The Grand Wazoo

Any of the above listed that you have not heard should be HIGH on your list as next purchases. Take it from another huge fan of jazz, these are great ones in the more jazz/fusion and progressive areas.

Oh, and as far as Genesis goes, I would definitely start with Trespass but I am in the minority. Don't go with Foxtrot though. Trespass or Selling England by the Pound are the best starting points I think.



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Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione
Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album)
Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific
2007:
Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 14:51
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  • Bill Bruford's Earthworks - Footloose and Fancy Free

Try also theํr 2004 released "Random acts of happiness". It's also live, but with new songs. Very good!

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  • Frank Zappa - Hot Rats

try also these chaotic jazz records : Weasels ripped my flesh, Sleep dirt & Piqueantique.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 15:09

Anyone liking fusion should check out Nima and Merge. Do it! Just do it!   Seriously!:

WWW.Mergemusic.com

 

Oh and since you mentioned Kansas in you post you might want to check out Kerry Livgren's new/old band Proto-Kaw.  Before Became after is a great cd (The cover is my avitar):

 

WWW.Protokaw.com

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 17:18
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Anyone liking fusion should check out Nima and Merge. Do it! Just do it!   Seriously!:

WWW.Mergemusic.com

 

Hey! That's some nice jazz there. Nice smooth rhythms and good playing.

Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione
Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album)
Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific
2007:
Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2005 at 17:29
Originally posted by dalt99 dalt99 wrote:

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Anyone liking fusion should check out Nima and Merge. Do it! Just do it!   Seriously!:

WWW.Mergemusic.com

 

Hey! That's some nice jazz there. Nice smooth rhythms and good playing.

 

Just three guys too! You should hear the new CD!  It is fantastic.  I saw these guys in a small club in January opening for Eric Norelander.  They blew him off the stage. Been trying to get them in PA for three months now.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2005 at 18:38
I think Foxtrot is Genesis' best but I don't know if it's the best starting point. I might even say "Nursery Cryme" would be a good album to start with being the beginning of the great Genesis recordings in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2005 at 18:41

best pink floyd albums in order.

1.dark side of the moon

2.the wall

3.wish you were here

4.meddle

5.animals



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2005 at 21:42
As a Pink Floyd fan, I usually tell people to go with a route similar to how I discovered them.
Dark Side of the Moon
The Wall
Meddle
Animals
Wish You Were Here
Atom Heart Mother

I personally prefer the early stuff (Piper through Atom Heart Mother), but almost all of their albums are great (even AMLOR and Division Bell have a few good songs).

I don't know too much Genesis stuff, but I think Foxtrot is a good place to start.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:56
Depends what sort of twentieth century classical music you like.

If you enjoy Wagner, you will love MAGMA and other bands of the zeuhl
family.

If you like Stravinsky and dissonance, many of the RIO bands (HENRY
COW and ART ZOYD in particular) are likely to appeal.

SHUB NIGGURATH was an interesting and extremely experimental band
fusing both approaches, but their music is far too minimalist and
unpredictable for many ears.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2005 at 05:31
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