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silvertree
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Topic: 70s ITALIAN PROG Posted: June 18 2005 at 08:35 |
Voted for Campo Di Marte just because it didn't have any votes yet. All are great albums.
I must say I very much prefer the songs that are sung in the native language even if I don't understand the lyrics. I try to make an effort to translate sometimes but the music (including the vocals) is enough for me.
I hate it when non-English speaking bands sing in English... we all know it is for commercial reasons. This is progressive rock not the pop-business world !
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Spacemac
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Posted: June 18 2005 at 06:56 |
PFM - "Per un amico"
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DallasBryan
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Posted: June 10 2005 at 02:29 |
I personally think that PFM's song "Is My Face on
Straight?" is the best english lyric italian progressive
song from the 70's. Sounds like an italian version of
a song that should be on Genesis "Trick of the Tale"
a year or two before that album was released.
Brilliant lyrics!
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Progranger
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Posted: June 09 2005 at 22:15 |
The original Italian releases are great, but I still like the
collaborative English language albums they did with Pete Sinfield
lyrics. "Chocolate Kings" and "Jet Lag" also rate pretty
highly with me.
I've managed to see PFM live twice - the Felt Foum in MSG, NYC
with John Sebastian and Poco in '73 and Massey Hall, Toronto in
'74. Absolootely amazing!! They still bring back fond
memories Probably two of the best shows of the 70's I've ever
seen. Phenomenal energy and concentration in their playing.
"Cook" barely manages to convey the feeling. Got to get their
"Live in Japan" set which I've heard is outstanding, sometime soon...
and relive some of those fond memories.
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geezer
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Posted: June 06 2005 at 02:59 |
This is a very good list of the best Italian prog. Many of those albums
are my favourites and every single of them is at least excellent. I
voted for Zarathustra.
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Possessed
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Posted: June 06 2005 at 00:57 |
Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys
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abyssyinfinity
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 05:21 |
Biglietto per l'Inferno, I recommend their new 3cds box...
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DallasBryan
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 03:29 |
this is an old one!
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Posted: January 16 2005 at 15:19 |
So glad Melos by Cervello was included - if anyone's looking for a new Italian prog LP to try they could do worse than this ASTONISHING COLOSSUS!!!!!!
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BebieM
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Posted: January 16 2005 at 03:28 |
Thanks a lot Wrath
I'm looking forward to listening to that Algarnas Tradgard song, GYBE and Gong has to be a nice combination
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threefates
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 19:39 |
You and me both Ninian... nope don't know anyone whos ever shown up with a bootleg.. however I do have this picture...
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Wrath_of_Ninian
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 19:13 |
threefates wrote:
I have quite a few of PFM's albums.. and I've seen them live a few times in the 70s. Out of all the Italian prog bands, I think I prefer them because they've always seemed more versatile to me. I've also a few Banco and Le Orme albums... but altho I like them, I don't play them often.
Unlike most devout PFM fans however, I prefer their English lyrics albums. Not just because I'm a fan of Pete Sinfields... but because I just prefer understanding the words....
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Although some people say they cant understand the English!!!!
The lyrics to Chocolate Kings are the most poigant and prophetic I've ever heard - and beautifully delivered by Lanzetti.
Of course Threefates, you know Lake performed on stage with them in Italy just after they signed for Manticore (apparently did 21st Century Schizoid Man and some others) - I would sell my house to buy a bootleg of that show....know ye of such a recording?
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 14:50 |
Like Trouserpress, I couldn't vote either: it's just too difficult to choose between such good albums.
Actually it's a good (but far from complete) list of Italian albums that Prog fans should check out. Much superb Prog music originates from Italy.
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threefates
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 14:42 |
I have quite a few of PFM's albums.. and I've seen them live a few times in the 70s. Out of all the Italian prog bands, I think I prefer them because they've always seemed more versatile to me. I've also a few Banco and Le Orme albums... but altho I like them, I don't play them often.
Unlike most devout PFM fans however, I prefer their English lyrics albums. Not just because I'm a fan of Pete Sinfields... but because I just prefer understanding the words....
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Beau Heem
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 14:35 |
It was hard indeed, to vote for one...
Locanda delle Fate got my vote.
I haven't actually heard (or, at least, not in a long time) all of these albums.
I have to do some intensive listening for a couple of days/weeks/months/years/lifetimes...
-Beau
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The Hemulen
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 14:31 |
I couldn't vote in this poll. I adore so many of those albums, it was impossible to choose.
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Wrath_of_Ninian
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 05:57 |
BebieM,
Yes, especially if your favourite band is Crimson - most Italian bands owe them a debt of some sort. PFM actually covered 21st Century Schizoid Man live, whilst Pete Sinfield wrote some of their lyrics for their English album releases.
For the others see:
Godspeed - try Algarnas Tradgard (actually Swedish, but hey...) - my friend actually mistook them for Godspeed the other day. There's a download on this site.
For Yes, try Banco Del Mutuo's first 3 albums - Francesco sings more operatically than JA, but its in his range!
For Genesis (<1974) see Acqua Fragile, and MAYBE the OCCASIONAL PFM, and Celeste.
For Genesis (>1974) what do you want something that sounds like that for?
For Soft Machine/Caravan see Picchio Dal Pozzo (who dedicated their first amazing album to Roberto Viatti).
For Camel there's a good French band called Carpe Diem ('En Regardant....') who have similar tendencies.
For Gong - again there are elements in Algarnas Tradgard. Unfortunately, the Italians dont seem to have been as tripped out as the Gong collective.
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chorus of one
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 05:03 |
BebieM wrote:
I don't have any of those albums .... am I missing a lot?
PS: My favourite bands would be: King Crimson, GY!BE, Camel, Yes, Genesis, Camel, Rush, Soft Machine, Gong, Caravan, Anglagard, Pink Floyd & amp; nbsp; which of those could you compare the italian style to? | Try the mp3s on their band pages in the archives, there's one for almost all of the albums mentioned here.
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BebieM
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Posted: January 15 2005 at 03:20 |
I don't have any of those albums .... am I missing a lot?
PS: My favourite bands would be: King Crimson, GY!BE, Camel, Yes, Genesis, Camel, Rush, Soft Machine, Gong, Caravan, Anglagard, Pink Floyd & nbsp; which of those could you compare the italian style to?
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DallasBryan
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 23:51 |
If you havent heard anything but the top three bands
PFM, Banco, and Le Orme from Italy
I would like to make some suggestions beyond
those bands
Il Volo / Essere, o non essere
New Trolls/ Concerto Grosso no. 1
Locanda della Fate/ Forse le Lucciole non si Amano
Semiramis/ Dedecado A Frazz
Osanna/ Palepoli
Biglietto per L’Inferno/ same
Museo Rosenbach/ Zarathustra
Maxophone/ same
Il Balletto di Bronzo/ Ys
the italian versions are the best as the english is
kinda lame
Il Volo is the only one that only has one track with
italian vocals the rest is great!
1st side of New Trolls is the best suite in Italian prog
and Semiramis musically is unbelievable, different
album everytime you play it
Locanda is beautiful
you should at least give these four a try!
harder rock - Biglietto and Museo
jazzy -Osanna and Maxo
complex - Balletto
Edited by DallasBryan
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