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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ELP never get any credit for being eclectic. Other bands can do 'silly songs' (ie Caravan with Golf Girl, Genesis with More Fool Me, Gentle Giant with Dog's Life) and seemingly get away with it. Oh well.

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My guess is that Keith's words and comments about serious music, and attempts at being classical, were trashed by a lot of rock critics, that enjoyed the musicianship, but hated the "ditties". And it became fair game, and Keith should have told them all to ... as Frank Zappa did right from the start ... he never had to apologize for his music ... and folks, and reviewers stopped harassing him on it. But, then, it wasn't until "Overnight Sensation" that the rock folks immediately jumped in and started saying what a genius Frank was. So Frank flipped them all off again ... and sold out many places non-stop for several years to his end.

You have to stand up for your music, and not doubt it ... and I think that ELP felt they had to excuse themselves for doing this or that ... and they should have told many of those ... farts ... where to go stuff it! They did not need those goons, not to mention that none of them ever bought an album, either!
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ELP never get any credit for being eclectic. Other bands can do 'silly songs' (ie Caravan with Golf Girl, Genesis with More Fool Me, Gentle Giant with Dog's Life) and seemingly get away with it. Oh well.


You don't see me complaining about "Benny the Bouncer," do you?

"Hoedown" is one of my favorite ELP compositions, too. Anyone who doesn't like it is off their axis.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

ELP never get any credit for being eclectic. Other bands can do 'silly songs' (ie Caravan with Golf Girl, Genesis with More Fool Me, Gentle Giant with Dog's Life) and seemingly get away with it. Oh well.
I mean not necessarily disagreeing with you but... based on reviews from this site I think most people don't let Genesis "get away" with that one. 
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I listened to Works Volume 1 yesterday again [the cover of Fanfare for Common Man is on it only, right?] and while the album does has it's moments; honestly,  I only liked two/three songs overall from it's dozen or so selections including the cover mentioned before. The highs of their debut and Tarkus [even some of the shorter songs on that LP appealed to me] seemed to have gone. I think I now have "Love Beach" and their off shoot Emerson, Lake and Powell to listen to apart from archival live recordings which I will get to in due time.
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Works is a slow burner but you probably need to be a fan. Back in the day I played Tarkus to death to the point that I started to listen to Works more and realised it was actually a good album. Closer To Believing in fact became a favourite track of mine and still is for me one of Lake's best songs (with help from Peter Sinfield) but like a lot of doubles maybe it could have done with a bit of fat trimming. Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto obviously belonged on a solo album more than anything else on the album that was potentially more adaptable to the band as a whole.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Works is a slow burner but you probably need to be a fan. Back in the day I played Tarkus to death to the point that I started to listen to Works more and realised it was actually a good album. Closer To Believing in fact became a favourite track of mine and still is for me one of Lake's best songs (with help from Peter Sinfield) but like a lot of doubles maybe it could have done with a bit of fat trimming. Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto obviously belonged on a solo album more than anything else on the album that was potentially more adaptable to the band as a whole.


Yes, Maybe I do need to re-listen to the album in a quiet place again. I would probably appreciate it slightly more maybe. I do like atleast couple of ELP's albums very much [debut and Tarkus],so I am atleast a partial fan :p. The album does have some bloat and can do with some toning down, as you said.
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