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Sweetnighter 
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:29 |
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Some moments of Echolyn sound so much like Gentle Giant I almost scorn
them for their lack of originality... for the Porcupine Tree option,
I'm thinking more along the lines of the group's earlier work as it
better imitates Pink Floyd, IMO anyway.
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frenchie
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:31 |
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hmm not to sure bout the imatations, think floyd and pink floyd u missed hehe. erm well i know porcupine tree are good
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Syzygy
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:34 |
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Marillion were a Genesis tribute band in all but name for their first couple of albums. This wasn't a bad thing at the time, seeing as Genesis had totally lost the plot by then, and they did develop beyond that pretty quickly. After all, if you're going to be inspired by anyone, you could choose a lot worse than Gabriel era Genesis.
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tuxon
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:38 |
Marillion is not an imitation of Genesis. have you ever truly listened to their released albums.
It's true they where influenced by the sound and the act of Genesis. But that's all.
I doubt Echolyn are a derivative band to Gentle Giant, and Porcupine Tree are not derivative to Pink aswell (for the few song I know of them aren't anyway). Starcastle is the only true imitation band you've mentioned. (I don't know Triumph).
This is not a good poll IMO, so I will refrain from voting in it. But I had to let you know how I thought about it.
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:41 |
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I just had to put in a good word for Triumph. Although they were far too lightweight at times (they often reminded me of a very good bar band that had the good luck to get a record deal) I remember them very fondly. I wouldn't call them a Rush copy band, though. They were often unfavourably compared to Rush just because they were also a Canadian trio. The Sex Pistols were a British foursome. Were they Beatles imitators?
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penguindf12
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:43 |
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I've only heard Marillion and Porcupine Tree, and Marillion is better in my opinion.
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 17:57 |
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I have 6 porcupine tree albums, and i can honestly say that only one of them sounds like PF, to be honest that one does sound alot like PF, but still, I think you're being a bit unfair labelling them as an imitation group
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threefates
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 18:01 |
Only the early stuff from Porcupine Tree sounds a little like Floyd's early stuff...Marillion sounds nothing like Genesis to me (that label would go to IQ).. I don't know enough about Triumph.. so I'm going with Starcastle and Yes, I guess... 
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 18:41 |
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What about Trimuvirat (or however it's spelled) and ELP?
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 18:47 |
 Custodian wrote:
I just had to put in a good word for Triumph. Although they were far too lightweight at times (they often reminded me of a very good bar band that had the good luck to get a record deal) I remember them very fondly. I wouldn't call them a Rush copy band, though. They were often unfavourably compared to Rush just because they were also a Canadian trio. The Sex Pistols were a British foursome. Were they Beatles imitators? |
So you never heard Blinding Light Show?
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 18:57 |
NOT FAIR. Marillion and Porcupine Tree do things I've never heard Genesis or Pink Floyd do and visa-vera. Not voting 
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 19:03 |
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The first time I hear Marillion, the thing that comes into my mind was the word "Genesis", but merely by the fact that Fish voice has resemblances with Gabriel. In terms of music i can't find much resemblance.
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 19:52 |
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Surprised Spocks Beard aren't on the list - they've borrowed from every early 70's prog band.
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 19:59 |
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I don't know if these guys should be listed as tribute bands, but I like Marillion the best from that list.
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James Lee
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 20:17 |
all modern rock bands are a "Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs" tribute band.
Dark Side of the Moon was nothing but "Wooly Bully" stretched out for a whole album.
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gdub411
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 20:28 |
James Lee wrote:
all modern rock bands are a "Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs" tribute band.
Dark Side of the Moon was nothing but "Wooly Bully" stretched out for a whole album.
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I don't know about Wooly Bully but they used to do psychedelic versions of Louie Louie and Roadrunner.
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James Lee
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 22:37 |
I think I heard of an entire album with nothing but "Louie Louie" covers. Does anyone know about that? I'd buy it, but then again...I'm an idiot sometimes.
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Glass-Prison
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 22:48 |
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After listening to 'How long I have waited', and then hearing 'Knots', my vote goes for echolyn
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maani
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 23:00 |
Sweetnighter:
I believe the word "imitation" is probably not the best word you could have used, at least "across the board." Because while Starcastle, Triump and, to a lesser degree, Porcupine Tree do, in many ways, "imitate" the groups with which they are associated, I would not put Echolyn, and particularly Marillion, in that same category.
There is a difference between "imitation" and "influence," and the degree to which a band shows one or the other. Echolyn is unquestionably influenced by GG, and they go a long way to sounding like GG. Still, I would not call them "imitative," though they may straddle the line.
Even moreso Marillion. While they are (or at least were) definitely influenced by Genesis, at no point do I hear "imitation," except perhaps, occasionally, in Fish's "channeling" of Gabriel vocally.
Peace.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: January 10 2005 at 23:20 |
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Triumvirat definitely an ELP rip off, as they copied
almost identically and released CDs 2-3 years after
ELP. Should have been lawsuits for such a ripoff.
Although viewed from today I can see how much
people love ELP and want to hear the same thing in
a different version. Guess alot of Canterbury bands
could be accused of copycatting but strangely they
dont seem to be as guitly. Maybe Triumvirat being
from Germany and the affect ELP had on Italian
scene, maybe they saw this a new music and one to
follow along closely. Ditto to Starcastle and Yes
influence on them.
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