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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

In truth they should have stopped after the live triple album and then we would probbaly not even be having this debate.


Maybe but then again there are a lot of bands that could have stopped after any album and their legacy wouldn't have been tarnished. Genesis could have stopped after Peter Gabriel or Steve Hackett's departure, Pink Floyd could have stopped after 1974, and The Who could have stopped after Keith Moon's death. But they didn't stop and it's best that bands break up when they want to. ELP shouldn't have been forced to make that commercial album. They should have been allowed to stop after Works.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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While it's true that some people do not understand context or as you say, miss a sense of history, nobody's ever complained about ELP's lack of loud guitar, or complained about Palmer's drumming, or lack of growls (a singing style that came much, much later, seriously, such a weird comment). 

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It was a generic comment, and not intended to be taken seriously, or directly as you have. 

The point was, that the music, in those days, was so different, that few people that posted here on this thread can really relate to it, and I don't mean that badly, in the sense that the times are different, but looking at ELP as if it were a today's band, that should be listed in the monthly numbers, or year end best of lists, makes it look like this old band is not that good ... and I find that sad ... to me it's like saying that Stravinsky is old and dead, and the music is crap ... and that would be a comment on the knowledge of music a lot more on the reality of the situation, and a bit about the history of music, that is/was, once again, poor ... remember that Debussy was booed, and Ravel was thrown garbage for a while.

With the media today, we have a chance to set things right, and give the folks that deserve it a chance, and instead, the only thing that can be said is making a comment about what I said instead of adding to the thread.

I stand up to be counted, and was there when the music came around ... a lot of folks here would not be there at all because of the commercial reality of things that is so visible today ... not that it wasn't THEN, but that was EXACTLY what we revolted against, and the FM radio dial was our great helper ... to the point that we still discuss that music. Shame that there is little appreciation for what so many folks did and helped this music, and have to put up with some comments!

But, that's not to say that there were not comments on ELP then. There were, but I think that many folks were confused with their classical nature opposite their pop/rock stuff. It didn't bother me a whole lot, because it was far out ... but in today's style and parlayance, I think ELP would be trashed even more, specially with anyone being able to say whatever they want, regardless. 

And it is very sad that it is all about the "preferences" and not the music itself ... there is nothing more that a true musician wants than appreciation for their work. It's what an art is for, and what artists live for. 
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ELP were very successful in the 70s and very influential to musicians on the East coast of America! I saw them perform at the Spectrum in Philadelphia on the "Welcome Back' tour. The place was packed!! What an event!!

By the time I hit age 18 and started playing Rock clubs and theaters...I could see "hands on" ..just loads of young keyboard players and drummers trying to play like Keith Emerson and Carl Palmer. The drum sets changed quite a bit . Drummers in the tri state area were investing in Carl Palmer's gear. The same applied to Emerson and many pro keyboardist that I knew from the road were in fact trying to play his style .

Billy Joel was obviously influenced by Emerson. Obviously on "Angry Young Man" which has the affect of ELP "The Sheriff " and generally he improvised in more of a Emerson style on some of his jazzy songs....for example 52nd Street.

With ELP it was all about the impact! It just generated through other musicians up and down the east coast. Even in the 80s...keyboardists still expressed admiration for Emerson.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

In truth they should have stopped after the live triple album and then we would probbaly not even be having this debate.


–Stop with WBMFTTSTNE

–80s: Emerson, Lake & Powell (2 albums)

–90s: Black Moon

A much better look. No 3, either.
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