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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

I'd suggest to use this cover (from CD and Bandcamp page)

and change the album title to "W.A.L.H.F. MORE F." or "W.A.L.H.F. MORE F. (With a Little Hell From MORE Friends)".
The more I think about this, the more I think that RYM's approach is the right one. Although the two albums are 99% the same musically, the covers are different and the titles are different, so perhaps they need to be included as separate entries as on RYM, simply to avoid confusion?
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^ Though Discogs still keeps the titles of the two releases the same, despite the different covers (I don't think they have realised as yet that track 8 differs in both in its length and musicians it features, so that may still change). 
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^^ I think 2 separate entries of "99% the same musically" albums would lead to even worse confusion. 

At the moment I updated the album almost as you suggested.
You're right, with the list of bands the line-up info would be too long. As well as the explanation of track 8 versions' differences. I only mentioned that it's different on CD and digital album.
And, finally, I've changed the title to W.A.L.H.F. MORE F. (With A Little Hell From MORE Friends).


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Line-up for the self-released version ('With a Little Hell from MORE friends', grey cover):

- Hey Figueroa / bass (4,6-8)
- Gerardo Ramlop / xylophone (3,5,7)
- Paolo Botta / keyboards, effects (2,6)
- Samo Salamon / all guitar solos (5), guitar solo (8)
- Armando Lagarda / rhythm guitar (1,8)
- Antonio Garcidueñas / drums (1,8)
- Patrick Gauthier / piano solo (3), keyboards (7)
- Miguel Saenger C. / drums (3,7)
- Bernard Falaise / electric guitars (6), guitar solo (7), 2nd guitar solo (8)
- Vincent Sicot-Vantalon / keyboards, effects (1)
- Emanuele Sterbini / bass (1)
- Shawn Persinger / electric guitar (1), 2nd & 3rd guitar solos (2), 1st guitar solo (3)
- Marc Ducret / guitar solo (1), 2nd guitar solo (3), midsection electric guitars (4)
- Ben Spees / electric guitar (2)
- Oliver Campbell / bass (2)
- Connor Reilly / drums (2)
- Markus Reuter / 1st guitar solo (2), 3rd guitar solo (8)
- Anthony Béard / electric guitar (3)
- Salvador Govea / keyboards (3)
- Joe Lester / bass (3)
- Matt Hollenberg / electric guitar (4)
- Jonathan Piña-Duluc / saxophone (4)
- Alonzo Arjona / drums (4)
- Alan Benjamin / electric guitar (5)
- Ed RosenBerg III / saxophone (5)
- Craig Walkner / drums (5)
- Steve Marek / bass (5)
- Juan Belda / keyboards, effects (5)
- Rémi Leclerc / drums & percussion (6)
- Håkan Almkvist / electric guitar (7)
- Ivan Rozmainsky / keyboards, effects (8)
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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^^ I think 2 separate entries of "99% the same musically" albums would lead to even worse confusion. 

At the moment I updated the album almost as you suggested.
You're right, with the list of bands the line-up info would be too long. As well as the explanation of track 8 versions' differences. I only mentioned that it's different on CD and digital album.
And, finally, I've changed the title to W.A.L.H.F. MORE F. (With A Little Hell From MORE Friends).
It's a right can of worms lol!

The line up for that release needs the different drummer for track 8 adding in. I accidentally left him off at the end of the list when I posted my corrected line-up, sorry Embarrassed:

- Tatsuya Yoshida / drums (8)

Minor typo in the last line: Digital album (July 9, 2024, contains different wersion of track 8 played by different line-up).

I'd definitely mention the different cover as well. That's the very first thing that people are going to see that's different between the two versions.
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I'll see if I can find out what the Hell he is trying to achieve by doing this. It's even worse than some of Antony Kalugin's shenanigans in some respects. LOL

Edit: I've found his Facebook page, but there's no talk on there of re-recording track 8 with these different musicians, and the old grey self-released version Bandcamp CD inlay image indicates that the bassist for track 8 was Emanuele Sterbini (Sterbus) - the same bass player as on track 1 - rather than Hey Figueroa, as Discogs suggests. It's impossible to be sure about anything, to be honest.


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^^ David, I've corrected the following:
- Tatsuya Yoshida / drums (8);
- fixed misspelling (version);
- mentioned different cover of digital version.

The rest, it seems, is a mystery. 
And I believe nobody compares to Antony Kalugin. Smile
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^ There are two digital versions though - the current one on Bandcamp, which is identical to the Azafrán Media CD - including the cover - and the self-released version that had the different line-up on track 8 plus the different cover. I think we need to show on the page that there are (or at least were) these two different digital releases. I can only find this album digitally on Bandcamp at the moment - nowhere else.

Maybe we could say something like this:

CD Azafrán Media - AP 2451 (July 9, 2024, Mexico)
Digital album via Bandcamp, July 9, 2024 - initially with a different cover, and seemingly containing a different version of track 8 played by different line-up

And yes, you're right...Nobody compares to Antony Kalugin! LOL

Edit: I've added the word 'seemingly' in that line about the digital album, because we don't know for sure that there definitely have been two distinct versions of track 8 featuring different musicians, or whether there was simply an error to begin with in the text that was printed on the original self-release artwork.

Edit 2: I've asked him on Facebook if he can throw any light on this for us.

Let's see if he responds. Smile


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