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The most archetypal classic Progressive Rock? |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15577 |
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This update says: Yes - 9 King Crimson - 8 Genesis - 7 ELP - 4 Jethro Tull - 2 Pink Floyd - 1 as voted by David_D, Valdez, felonafan, Logan, The Dark Elf, Easy Money, jamesbaldwin, AFlowerKingCrimson, mathman0806 and richardh |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29702 |
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Yes for being Symphonic (best example Tales From Topographic Oceans)
Genesis for Crossover (best example A Trick Of The Tail) ELP for Eclectric (best example Brain Salad Surgery) King Crimson for Experimental (best example Larks Tongues In Aspic) Pink Floyd for Psyche (best example Wish You Were Here) Jethro Tull for Heavy Prog (best example Aqualung) ELP are by far the most misunderstood band of the classic era. They rarely get enough credit. BSS was an insane album that took us on a rollercoaster of a ride through English poetry, hymn, progressive electronica, classic English ballad, English music hall, Symphonic and Avant jazz. They had no boundaries and were exactly what prog was meant to be. Ultimately they relied too much on the creativity of one guy and he was drained by 1974. However they all are the archetypal bands of prog and represent all the major strands of prog. (IMO)
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I few years ago, I was asked by a work colleague what is progressive rock. I decided to answer this question with an example. After a considerable amount of thought about possibilities, I decided that the classic period prog groups were too original sounding for any to be considered definitive, so I eventually chose the retro-prog album Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere. I felt that the relatively unoriginal retro-prog would blend together the distinct styles from the classic period and later to form music that is truly definitive of the core of progressive rock. Also, despite being somewhat unoriginal, Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere is a great album, so that one could decide if progressive rock is for them by listening to Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15577 |
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Very nice with your thorough reasoning and explanation. One can vote for up to all 6 bands, so you can vote for ELP too, if you want to. |
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6842 |
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I say Yes and Genesis.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15577 |
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So by now: Yes - 7 King Crimson - 7 Genesis - 5 ELP - 3 Jethro Tull - 1 Pink Floyd - 0 as voted by David_D, Valdez, felonafan, Logan, The Dark Elf, Easy Money, jamesbaldwin and AFlowerKingCrimson |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19048 |
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Yes
Genesis (PG and SH era only of course) King Crimson ELP were too far off on the extreme end. They represent prog at it's most excessive but not most typical imo. I still like them but that's beside the point.
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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I think that Yes and Genesis are on the podium. Pink Floyd came from psychedelia, they were prog only in passing, they are much more than prog. Jethro tull before Thick As a Brick were mainly folkblues, they too were prog in passing. Now that leaves EL&P and King Crimson. Both can aspire to the podium, as importance for prog. EL&P came from Nice, from adapting classical music to rock, and they were very successful. King Crimson have never adapted classical music to rock, they come partly from psychedelia, partly from the avant-garde, partly from melodic romantic rock and, from their second album onwards, partly from jazz. In short, King Crimson are much more experimental than EL&P. And they kick-started Prog with their first album. They went through various musical phases, often changing their sound, whereas EL&P always remained the same. KC are definitely more difficult than El&P. But like Pink Floyd they are admired far beyond prog. However, both choices seem legitimate to me. I choose King Crimson, because in my opinion without them, prog would be lost far more than it is with EL&P. -King Crimson - Yes - Genesis
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10698 |
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ELP
King Crimson The originators. |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15577 |
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Then it says: Yes - 5 King Crimson - 4 Genesis - 3 ELP - 2 Jethro Tull - 1 Pink Floyd - 0 as voted by David_D, Valdez, felonafan, Logan and The Dark Elf |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Online Points: 13249 |
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Tull - who probably did more diversification in sound than any of the others.
Yes King Crimson
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37634 |
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I think of ELP as the quintessential Prog band (a sound so associated with Prog fro good or bad), followed by Yes and King Crimson in its own way. And of course Prog-Genesis has been incredibly influential and does deserve mention. I had not associated Pink Floyd with Prog so much when growing up.
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felonafan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 08 2005 Status: Offline Points: 393 |
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Yes
King Crimson
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15577 |
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Discussion is of course very welcomed, but especially of "The Big Six".
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15577 |
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The present result is: Yes - 2 Genesis - 2 ELP - 1 King Crimson - 1 Jethro Tull - 0 Pink Floyd - 0 as voted by David_D and Valdez
Edited by David_D - November 23 2024 at 13:25 |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15577 |
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 1057 |
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KC
Yes genesis Of these. |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Online Points: 44045 |
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Can we only vote for three?
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Valdez ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 1057 |
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The Moody Blues oft neglected but really deserve more.
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