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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:




Aphrodite's Child (Gre) - 666 (1972)  (71,  6,200 r.)



Even I guess that 666 has got a large part of its ratings from non-proggers, as it's also much influenced by Psychedelic Rock.


Interesting indeed. Always loved that album and seems influential. I've got the reissue on pre-order so looking forward to that.

https://www.piccadillyrecords.com/157080/Aphrodite's-Child-666-The-Apocalypse-Of-John-2024-Reissue-UMR
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I own 34 CD albums in PA's Top 100, but I'm not going to list them either - which makes a change for me. Tongue

I wouldn't mind to see that list, as to be honest, I'm quite curious about it. Wink
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

.... however there are only 162 albums in total that have 1000 ratings. 

162 albums is quite a large number when talking about having look at the greatest prog music classics, and anyway, that's just how the terms are on PA. On RYM, the number of albums with minimum 1000 ratings is about 500 hundred for strictly defined Progressive Rock alone.

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

My point is that the algorithm is there to give us more of a pool of albums and may help newer artists as they start to scale the summit. 

The question is what should be the purpose of the "Top Prog Albums (all-time)" list. If disregarding the definition of "Prog", I think that the purpose should just be exactly what the title says, and for that purpose, we need to put much weight on the number of ratings. 

Helping newer or less popular/well-known / more obscure artists is a very fine aim, but I think that it would be better with a separate list for that purpose. Tongue


I feel richardh's point is reinforced by the fact that recent years have seen fewer albums rated.  2022 only has twelve albums with a hundred ratings and only one album with over 300 ratings- Porcupine Tree "Closure/Continuation".   Whereas, 2015 has 69 albums with over a hundred ratings and 17 albums with over 300 ratings.   

The recent downturn in review/rating interaction on PA does not mean that recent albums are less good than albums released ten years ago.Wink


Here's a solution: why not eliminate ratings by those who have had no activity on this site in, say, the last 15 years? 


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I own 34 CD albums in PA's Top 100, but I'm not going to list them either - which makes a change for me. Tongue

I wouldn't mind to see that list, as to be honest, I'm quite curious about it. Wink

Okay then, seeing as you've asked. Smile


4 stars 1970: Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtsoUorBySZ8GsEIMLVrI2R

4 stars 1959: Miles Davis - Kind of Blue - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDqULFUg6CY

5 stars 1999: Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY0UJ7SdDG7n4DgXGJ_h-vG0QH9LpayaA

5 stars 1970: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWYVLlCgxodhqh5PuVKeNwfnxE7rW5xsY

5 stars 1973: Genesis - Selling England by the Pound - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls8c3SxGZW2wPNWTifikotc
4 stars 1974: Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvZRqTE0R8CKQn3uj02Eete

5 stars 1975: Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYpBVHR7sN2E2R3QC3K3RBq


5 stars 1969: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_npAxahIi6ehG_i3qD04oSeSGA6iUCM58E

5 stars 1983: Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXeTcpskPi4
3 stars 1985: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1GxC_er32s

5 stars 1975: Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNi-zZF6wI





4 stars 1978: Rush - Hemispheres - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMoHes_BChQ

4 stars 1974: Supertramp - Crime of the Century - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR161aSURNM

5 stars 1970: Van der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am the Only One - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJ5GqrKTN-Elb_BhgPje8Seu8Xr0n4T3w
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I own 34 CD albums in PA's Top 100, but I'm not going to list them either - which makes a change for me. Tongue
I wouldn't mind to see that list, as to be honest, I'm quite curious about it. Wink
Okay then, seeing as you've asked. Smile

Thank you very much for fulfilling my request, Paul. You listed 32 but to be honest and even your collection is very big, I still wouldn't expect it to be quite that many.
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^ Yes, it should've been a list of 34 albums instead of 32, but I left out Van der Graaf Generator's The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other (mainly because it's not in PA's Top 100, surprisingly) and Pink Floyd's Animals which I gave away to a charity shop. Cry

I'm really surprised Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells isn't in PA's Top 100 chart. Shocked


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm really surprised Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells isn't in PA's Top 100 chart. Shocked

Yes, that's really suprising, and so can be said about maybe not so few other albums, but on the other hand, there're Art Zoyd's Häxan, Gorguts' Obscura, Escaton's 4 Visions and Cardiacs' On Land and in the Sea. Wink
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Tubular Bells actually clocks in at #209 - a complete travesty - IMO it deserves to be somewhere in the top 25.

[Just go to the top 100 list and change the maximum results to 250.]

Edited by Floydoid - October 21 2024 at 13:24
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Here are five modern, soon to be classics.

Spock's Beard - V
Echolyn - The End Is Beautiful
Bubblemath - Edit Peptide
The Aristocrats - Duck
Wippy Bonstack - 22




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For those interested in the highest rated prog music albums/artists and with much weight on popularity (numbers of ratings), I still think that it's a god idea to have a look at my Top 100 all-time as rated on RYM and PA , made in 2019. BUT, since then, large/very large numbers of ratings have been made on RYM for the majority or maybe very most of the artists, and some very large numbers of ratings for some new/other artists, which altogether can mean quite a lot of changes compared to my list. Also or on the other hand, sometimes it's a good question how to evaluate and understand these new ratings, as they can be very RYM-locally conditioned.




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Btw, when talking about Eskaton's 4 Visions and even it has only got a rather small number of ratings on PA, it is of course a lot appreciated (Zeuhl) classic today, and I've got it in my collection too.
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Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's classic. And otherwise, some unknown acts that receive few ratings are classics for me.
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^^  Eskaton's 4 Visions is also to be found on my Top 100-160 all-time as rated on RYM and PA list, made  in 2019 too, at #125; while when talking about  Top 100 all-time as rated on RYM and PA , it includes these of my Prog classics which I haven't mentioned earlier:

Steve Hackett  (UK) :   Voyage Of The Acolyte  (1975)   12,0 (3.100 r.)
Museo Rosenbach  (I) :   Zarathustra  (1973)   12,1 (2.100 r.)
Focus  (NL) :   Hamburger Concerto  (1974)   12,0 (2.100 r.)
Khan  (UK) :   Space Shanty  (1972)   12,0 (2.000 r.)
Bacamarte  (Bra) :   Depois Do Fim  (1983)   12,1 (1.600 r.)
Le Orme  (I) :   Felona E Sorona  (1973)   11,9 (2.200 r.)
Eloy  (D) :   Ocean  (1977)   11,7 (2.500 r.)
T2  (UK) :   It’ll All Work out in Boomland  (1970)   11,7 (2.200 r.)
Il Balletto di Bronzo  (I) :   Ys  (1972)   11,7 (1.800 r.)
Rick Wakeman  (UK) :   The Six Wives Of Henry VIII  (1973)   11,4 (2.200 r.)


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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Tubular Bells actually clocks in at #209 - a complete travesty - IMO it deserves to be somewhere in the top 25.

[Just go to the top 100 list and change the maximum results to 250.]

Not really. Side One is tremendous and is the meat of the album. Side Two is a notch down for me. I havent read the reviews but I'm guessing a few have said that. Ommadawn is his greatest album and sits proudly at 56.

One of the albums outside the Top 100 that should be in is Rick Wakeman's Six Wives Of Henry VIII. Not even in the Top 250 Shocked Each composition is a masterpiece in its own right and he curated some of the greatest musicians of the time for it. Just look at this.
With:
- Mike Egan / guitar (1,2,5,6)
- Steve Howe / guitar (1)
- Dave Lambert / guitar (3)
- David Cousins / electric banjo (3)
- Chris Squire / bass (1)
- Dave Winter / bass (2,6)
- Chas Cronk / bass (3)
- Les Hurdle / bass (1,5)
- Bill Bruford / drums (1,5)
- Alan White / drums (2,4,6)
- Barry de Souza / drums (3)
- Ray Cooper / percussion (1,5)
- Frank Ricotti / percussion (2,3,6)
- Judy Powell / chorus (1)
- Barry St.John / chorus (1)
- Liza Strike / chorus (1,5)
- Laura Lee / chorus (5)
- Sylvia McNeill / chorus (5)
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ similar to me, only I'm not all that adventurous and am happy with what I like... I really don't suffer from 'FOMO' syndrome.. Smile

I can tell that my biggest problem today is to find some new-to-me albums which I can like as much as very most of those I've got in my collection.
Actually, it's most fruitile for me to search amongst classics.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

One of the albums outside the Top 100 that should be in is Rick Wakeman's Six Wives Of Henry VIII. Not even in the Top 250 Shocked Each composition is a masterpiece in its own right and he curated some of the greatest musicians of the time for it. 

I surely love it and have done it since its release. Thumbs Up


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

One of the albums outside the Top 100 that should be in is Rick Wakeman's Six Wives Of Henry VIII. Not even in the Top 250 Shocked Each composition is a masterpiece in its own right and he curated some of the greatest musicians of the time for it. 


I surely love it and have done it since its release. Thumbs Up



A travesty indeed - it has also been one of my all time favourite albums since its release.
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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

One of the albums outside the Top 100 that should be in is Rick Wakeman's Six Wives Of Henry VIII. Not even in the Top 250 Shocked Each composition is a masterpiece in its own right and he curated some of the greatest musicians of the time for it. 


I surely love it and have done it since its release. Thumbs Up



A travesty indeed - it has also been one of my all time favourite albums since its release.
Not everyone shares this sentiment. I, for one, have always preferred "No Earthly Connection" to "The Six Wives of Henry VIII."
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Back in the day when Six Wives was first released it seemed almost as good as anything that Yes was churning out in the first half of the 70's - and IMO second only to CTTE.
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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Back in the day when Six Wives was first released it seemed almost as good as anything that Yes was churning out in the first half of the 70's - and IMO second only to CTTE.
"The Six Wives of Henry VIII" was released in January 1973, and that was year that later saw the releases of many iconic albums, including "Tales from Topographic Oceans" (December 1973); I, for one, have always preferred the latter.
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