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    Posted: October 06 2024 at 09:16
Dear progressive rock lovers,

I’m asking for your help. I’ve been trying to find a particular melody/song for many days, but without success. The melody can be heard in this YouTube video (in three parts, timestamps: 2:00, 5:04, and 6:58). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js5nZ54oyfQ

There is a high probability that it is French prog band (because of this race video was filmed in France). I believe the melody is likely from the 1970s or the first half of the 1980s.

I’ve already listened dozens of French prog bands but haven’t found the one I’m looking for (sometimes some parts sounded a little bit similar, but it wasn’t the right composition). I would be extremely grateful for any advice or help.

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I'm a bit confused. Is there a song that you once heard but then only heard snippets of in the auto racing documentary? Did you just forget what the song was? Do you know anything about the specific song? Or maybe the music in the docmentary reminds you of it. 

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Half the people in the comments are saying the music was made by Focus, the other half says it's by Alain Goraguer. It does sound very Focus-y but I don't recognize the song myself. Either way, those might be good places to start.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'm a bit confused. Is there a song that you once heard but then only heard snippets of in the auto racing documentary? Did you just forget what the song was? Do you know anything about the specific song? Or maybe the music in the docmentary reminds you of it. 


Thank you for your reply. I first heard this song in this documentary about car racing. Now I'm trying to find the author of this music
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Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

Half the people in the comments are saying the music was made by Focus, the other half says it's by Alain Goraguer. It does sound very Focus-y but I don't recognize the song myself. Either way, those might be good places to start.


Yes, thank you, I carefully read all comments to this documentary video and I started by listening all the albums by the Dutch band Focus and all available melodies by French composer Alain Goraguer. Neither of them have anything similar. It was a false lead. After that, I moved on to listening to French prog-rock bands. But I had no success there either :(
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Sorry, I couldn't resist!!  This is a fine little song, with some excellent guitar playing by Robbie Blunt! 
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It reminds me of Enrico Simonetti, dad of Claudio, the mastermind of Goblin. 
It's not Simonetti, but it sounds very Italian of the 60s to me. 


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It reminds me of Ekseption rather than Focus, but Ekseption did not use guitars after their debut.

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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It reminds me of Enrico Simonetti, dad of Claudio, the mastermind of Goblin. 
It's not Simonetti, but it sounds very Italian of the 60s to me. 


Thanks for your reply.
I understand what you mean. When I listen to the first part of the target music, I also get the feeling that it's very "cinematographic", it sounds like part of a movie soundtrack. But, unfortunately, I checked all available albums by Enrico Simonetti and found nothing. Probably the closest in sound is the soundtrack to the movie/series Gamma. The others are too "orchestral." Just in case, I also checked Claudio's film works, but found nothing as well.
What do you think – should I check again the entire Goblin band discography? Could I have missed something?
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Originally posted by Wombatium Wombatium wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It reminds me of Enrico Simonetti, dad of Claudio, the mastermind of Goblin. 
It's not Simonetti, but it sounds very Italian of the 60s to me. 


Thanks for your reply.
I understand what you mean. When I listen to the first part of the target music, I also get the feeling that it's very "cinematographic", it sounds like part of a movie soundtrack. But, unfortunately, I checked all available albums by Enrico Simonetti and found nothing. Probably the closest in sound is the soundtrack to the movie/series Gamma. The others are too "orchestral." Just in case, I also checked Claudio's film works, but found nothing as well.
What do you think – should I check again the entire Goblin band discography? Could I have missed something?

It's not Goblin.
There are other Italian bands & soundtrack composers, do check that out. One reason i watch 70s Italian movies is because the soundtracks were so good. 

I like the music in that little documentary you posted, I wish you found out what it is. Smile 
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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

It reminds me of Ekseption rather than Focus, but Ekseption did not use guitars after their debut.


You are absolutely right about Ekseption.
Before checking all the French prog bands, I did a bit of research on the Dutch prog scene (due to a false trail with Focus).
Earth and Fire, Supersister, Trace, and so on.
Ekseption was probably the closest in sound. But, unfortunately, they don't have this song :(
Anyway, thank you for the advice
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


I like the music in that little documentary you posted, I wish you found out what it is. Smile 


I really like this music too. Thank you very much for the kind wish :)
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I like it a lot, it sounds like library (soundtrack, TV) music to me. It gives me Karl Heinz Schäfer vibes.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I like it a lot, it sounds like library (soundtrack, TV) music to me. It gives me Karl Heinz Schäfer vibes.


Could you, please, clarify what do you mean by "library music"? Do you mean that these are not three parts of one song, but three different tracks from a soundtrack to one film (connected by a common theme)? 

As for Karl Heinz Schäfer, I agree. This feeling is especially strong in the soundtrack to the film Les gants blancs du diable
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I like it a lot, it sounds like library (soundtrack, TV) music to me. It gives me Karl Heinz Schäfer vibes.


And your avatar give me even more vibes Wink
La Planète sauvage and Alain Goraguer are very close to the target song
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Originally posted by Wombatium Wombatium wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I like it a lot, it sounds like library (soundtrack, TV) music to me. It gives me Karl Heinz Schäfer vibes.


Could you, please, clarify what do you mean by "library music"? Do you mean that these are not three parts of one song, but three different tracks from a soundtrack to one film (connected by a common theme)? 

As for Karl Heinz Schäfer, I agree. This feeling is especially strong in the soundtrack to the film Les gants blancs du diable


I've quoited this from rateyourmusic:

"Library music, also known as stock or production music, is the term for musical compositions that can be licensed to consumers for use in audio, video or audiovisual formats."

I love the album Les gants blancs du diable.


Originally posted by Wombatium Wombatium wrote:

And your avatar give me even more vibes Wink
<span>La Planète sauvage and Alain Goraguer are very close to the target song.


yes, and when I first heard it, Goraguer is the first that came to mind (I saw that that had mentioned before) and I very much associate the music of La planète sauvage with Les gants blancs du diable. I would expect the music to be early 70s and in the some sort of vein as music of the time by Goraguer, Schäfer, Vladimir Cosma, Michel Bernholc, Lalo Schifrin....

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Wombatium Wombatium wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

It reminds me of Enrico Simonetti, dad of Claudio, the mastermind of Goblin. 
It's not Simonetti, but it sounds very Italian of the 60s to me. 


Thanks for your reply.
I understand what you mean. When I listen to the first part of the target music, I also get the feeling that it's very "cinematographic", it sounds like part of a movie soundtrack. But, unfortunately, I checked all available albums by Enrico Simonetti and found nothing. Probably the closest in sound is the soundtrack to the movie/series Gamma. The others are too "orchestral." Just in case, I also checked Claudio's film works, but found nothing as well.
What do you think – should I check again the entire Goblin band discography? Could I have missed something?

It's not Goblin.
There are other Italian bands & soundtrack composers, do check that out. One reason i watch 70s Italian movies is because the soundtracks were so good. 

I like the music in that little documentary you posted, I wish you found out what it is. Smile 

I agree, it's not Goblin. Mine was just a sensation, but there's a number of Italian authors of soundtracks of the 60s (not last Ennio Morricone). I think it may be one of them.
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Sounds like a prog take on parts of Shostakovich 12 symphony. Almost has a Philip glass ring to it with the repetition. Goblin is a good guess

Edited by Valdez - October 08 2024 at 20:03
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I know it's not it but the part at 2 minutes reminds me of the beginning of "la mente vola" by Alphataurus. 
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More than anything else, it reminds me of the early Ange, especially with the guitar sound. I can't recall, however, which tune(s) it would be exactly. If that music belongs to Ange, though, I wouldn't be at all astonished if the band decided to give away some of their otherwise unreleased recordings, particularly for that documentary. After all, the 24 Hours of Le Mans was a huge event back then—much bigger than it is today. Even the 1971 Steve McQueen-starring film "Le Mans" depicted a fictional rendition of the 24 Heures du Mans race.
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