Searching for a melody
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Topic: Searching for a melody
Posted By: Wombatium
Subject: Searching for a melody
Date Posted: October 06 2024 at 09:16
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Dear progressive rock lovers, I’m asking for your help. I’ve been trying to find a particular melody/song for many days, but without success. The melody can be heard in this YouTube video (in three parts, timestamps: 2:00, 5:04, and 6:58). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js5nZ54oyfQ There is a high probability that it is French prog band (because of this race video was filmed in France). I believe the melody is likely from the 1970s or the first half of the 1980s. I’ve already listened dozens of French prog bands but haven’t found the one I’m looking for (sometimes some parts sounded a little bit similar, but it wasn’t the right composition). I would be extremely grateful for any advice or help.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 06 2024 at 10:53
| I'm a bit confused. Is there a song that you once heard but then only heard snippets of in the auto racing documentary? Did you just forget what the song was? Do you know anything about the specific song? Or maybe the music in the docmentary reminds you of it. |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: October 06 2024 at 11:59
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Half the people in the comments are saying the music was made by Focus, the other half says it's by Alain Goraguer. It does sound very Focus-y but I don't recognize the song myself. Either way, those might be good places to start. ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 06 2024 at 14:46
Thank you for your reply. I first heard this song in this documentary about car racing. Now I'm trying to find the author of this music
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AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 06 2024 at 14:53
Yes, thank you, I carefully read all comments to this documentary video and I started by listening all the albums by the Dutch band Focus and all available melodies by French composer Alain Goraguer. Neither of them have anything similar. It was a false lead. After that, I moved on to listening to French prog-rock bands. But I had no success there either :(
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 10:39
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Sorry, I couldn't resist!! This is a fine little song, with some excellent guitar playing by Robbie Blunt! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 07 2024 at 15:03
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It reminds me of Enrico Simonetti, dad of Claudio, the mastermind of Goblin. It's not Simonetti, but it sounds very Italian of the 60s to me.
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 00:43
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It reminds me of https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1321" rel="nofollow - Ekseption rather than Focus, but Ekseption did not use guitars after their debut. ------------- 
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Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 04:41
Thanks for your reply. I understand what you mean. When I listen to the first part of the target music, I also get the feeling that it's very "cinematographic", it sounds like part of a movie soundtrack. But, unfortunately, I checked all available albums by Enrico Simonetti and found nothing. Probably the closest in sound is the soundtrack to the movie/series Gamma. The others are too "orchestral." Just in case, I also checked Claudio's film works, but found nothing as well.
What do you think – should I check again the entire Goblin band discography? Could I have missed something? |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 04:46
It's not Goblin. There are other Italian bands & soundtrack composers, do check that out. One reason i watch 70s Italian movies is because the soundtracks were so good. I like the music in that little documentary you posted, I wish you found out what it is.
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Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 04:54
You are absolutely right about Ekseption.
Before checking all the French prog bands, I did a bit of research on the Dutch prog scene (due to a false trail with Focus). Earth and Fire, Supersister, Trace, and so on. Ekseption was probably the closest in sound. But, unfortunately, they don't have this song :( Anyway, thank you for the advice |
Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 04:59
I really like this music too. Thank you very much for the kind wish :)
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 07:11
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I like it a lot, it sounds like library (soundtrack, TV) music to me. It gives me Karl Heinz Schäfer vibes. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 08:44
Could you, please, clarify what do you mean by "library music"? Do you mean that these are not three parts of one song, but three different tracks from a soundtrack to one film (connected by a common theme)? As for Karl Heinz Schäfer, I agree. This feeling is especially strong in the soundtrack to the film Les gants blancs du diable
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Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 09:06
And your avatar give me even more vibes  La Planète sauvage and Alain Goraguer are very close to the target song
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 09:26
I've quoited this from rateyourmusic: "Library music, also known as stock or production music, is the term for musical compositions that can be licensed to consumers for use in audio, video or audiovisual formats." I love the album Les gants blancs du diable.
yes, and when I first heard it, Goraguer is the first that came to mind (I saw that that had mentioned before) and I very much associate the music of La planète sauvage with Les gants blancs du diable. I would expect the music to be early 70s and in the some sort of vein as music of the time by Goraguer, Schäfer, Vladimir Cosma, Michel Bernholc, Lalo Schifrin.... Great music, great time for racing. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 14:26
I agree, it's not Goblin. Mine was just a sensation, but there's a number of Italian authors of soundtracks of the 60s (not last Ennio Morricone). I think it may be one of them. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 20:02
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Sounds like a prog take on parts of Shostakovich 12 symphony. Almost has a Philip glass ring to it with the repetition. Goblin is a good guess ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024 |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 21:15
| I know it's not it but the part at 2 minutes reminds me of the beginning of "la mente vola" by Alphataurus. |
Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: October 08 2024 at 22:55
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More than anything else, it reminds me of the early Ange, especially with the guitar sound. I can't recall, however, which tune(s) it would be exactly. If that music belongs to Ange, though, I wouldn't be at all astonished if the band decided to give away some of their otherwise unreleased recordings, particularly for that documentary. After all, the 24 Hours of Le Mans was a huge event back then—much bigger than it is today. Even the 1971 Steve McQueen-starring film "Le Mans" depicted a fictional rendition of the 24 Heures du Mans race. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 09 2024 at 02:01
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Reminds me somewhat of Jean-Pierre Massiera's Visitors, but this is more symphonic & less psychedelic than that project. Good luck. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 09 2024 at 08:32
Thank you for the explanation. I didn't know this term before. Let me guess – the music in these libraries was most likely stored on magnetic tapes (reel tapes), right? If you listen closely to the target music, you can hear the distinctive crackling of a needle on a vinyl. This gives me hope that the required song was released on vinyl (and was available for sale, not only for TV's internal usage)
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Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 09 2024 at 08:38
Thanks for your reply. I have checked Goblin discography one more time. It's wrong direction. Could you, please, explain me your ideas about Shostakovich? Unofortunately, I can't hear any intersections with the 12th Symphony. Maybe another symphony of the same author?
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 09 2024 at 08:51
I would think it was commonly stored that way. There is a lot of library music that also has been released on record. Sometimes many years later. It gives me the feel of music made by someone who would be involved with composing for TV shows / documentaries/ movies. And while some are saying Italian, it seems more French to me. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: October 09 2024 at 12:15
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Im gonna guess philip glass early version of Mad Rush by this guy maybe? https://youtu.be/jZxLWNiFMZM?si=kNf0W2pnexw9Noja ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024 |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 09 2024 at 13:54
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It may be a French composer, too. In the 60s hey weren't too different from the Italians. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Wombatium
Date Posted: October 19 2024 at 10:59
I apologies for the delayed response. Yes, you are right. The melody in target song is not just similar to Ange in terms of the guitar sound. Overall, their sound is quite similar in the albums from (approximately) 1977-78. However, unfortunately, I couldn't find the exact melody in Ange's works (I went through their entire discography). In any case, thank you for the suggestion
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