PA the only site to recognize J-R Fusion as Prog?

J R Fusion has obviously been an element in Prog for many years. Greenslade played that particular style often, but they also added in Classical. On all of their studio albums you'll find both styles arranged to fit in a song with lyrics..however if you dropped the tone arm on the Jazz Fusion section you might confuse them with a Fusion band.

Curved Air Phantasmagoria sets an example of Jazz Rock in 3/4 yet the band has mostly classical leanings.

Steve Howe was often jazzy being influenced by Jim Hall. But does it fit into Yes? Yes it does because Rick Wakeman, Chris Squire and Bill Bruford knowing better than to outplay Steve Howe and giving him some space. Certain skilled keyboardists will add in too many notes when a guitar player takes a solo and they wipe them out. They are limiting the guitarist in their soloing. Yes never did that. They granted each other space and it helped them to create beautiful music...The guitar player has 5 fingers to form notes where a pianist has 10 fingers and has a track record of playing over top of other people's solos and not willing to give that guitarist some space.

This occurs often in the Jazz Rock Fusion world of egocentric mechanical gymnastic players who don't care about creating music with melody and often perceive music as a bunch of stunt car racers on a track...literally...and when they hear a fantastic melody they laugh at it because they think it's below them. That's a sickness. It's not music. Improvisation has its place in music ...but if you continue to follow just that one path and always make music about competition then your closing off a love that is unconditional. Nature will not inspire you if your head is swimming in competition with other musicians. It's high school malarkey.







Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - September 23 2024 at 18:13

Logan wrote: I went to the Louvre some years ago and the Venus de Milo was still missing an arm. (just an absurd and 'armless attempt at a joke in case anyone thinks I went too far out on a limb, and missed the point)

Logan wrote: I went to the Louvre some years ago and the Venus de Milo was still missing an arm. (just an absurd and 'armless attempt at a joke in case anyone thinks I went too far out on a limb, and missed the point)

^ Do you think the Louvre has received no functional upgrades throughout the decades? 

^ At AP (or RYM, for that matter) you do not have to participate in the tagging at all, or you can use it just a little ... it is optional. I created AP, and it sometimes surprises me how worked-up regular users (who are not running music websites) get over these things. Not you specifically, but looking at this thread in general.

Edited by MikeEnRegalia - September 23 2024 at 08:23

Music is music. You either like it or not. Same goes with multi-tagging.

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Starshiper wrote: I like that PA doesn't have a multi-tag system since this is now something unique, because now all other music websites have a multi-tag system, and many of those tags people put are meaningless. That makes two of us. I also much prefer PA's unique system of assigning one singular genre tag per artist.

Progarchives is like an old museum located in an old building, and as such is quite unique these days. Should a historic museum be relocated to a new building just because it's "more functional"? Nope. All that's needed is upkeep.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Starshiper wrote:  When I go to the PA database, however, to the entry of a band that is categorised as "symphonic prog," I know that it is prog-rock. Sure, but which of the 30+ Genesis releases are actually symphonic prog? Only a tiny fraction. As a newbie that still leaves you clueless. Same with Miles Davis in JRF, as others have pointed out. The nice, simple one-dimensional label only makes sense to those who are already very familiar with the artist.

Okay, but if that logic is to be followed, what's the point of non-prog albums in the prog-rock database anyway? Then the entries in the database would have to be based on releases, not on bands, because a number of bands left prog-rock at some point in their careers; some of them released only one prog-rock album as their debut prior to changing their style into pop-rock. Or, what jazz artists like Miles Davis or Wayne Shorter do on this site that defines itself as a progressive rock site? There is JMA for them.

Cristi wrote: Starshiper wrote: Cristi wrote: The tags help to describe the music, that's all.  Reviews are the thing that help in today's time of super multi-multiplied multi-tags. "super multi-multiplied multi-tags"?! Really?!  Have a look for instance at Miles Davis's page on JMA and then tell me how it's a bad thing what they've done there.  https://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/artist/miles-davis/?ac=Miles%20davis