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Poll Question: Which of these is your favorite?
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    Posted: July 31 2024 at 17:51
With little to no fanfare on August 1st, 1981, MTV began broadcasting music videos to a very small, unassuming audience. Many pop culture historians would have us believe today that this was an "era-defining moment", when all it probably really did was to increase record company marketing budgets, as every act had to promote the music they recorded with videos for MTV.

At the same time, the music industry was unquestionably changing. New technologies, new formats, new instruments, and new recording equipment would change everything for established recording artists. As someone who was there at the time, I'll never forget how quickly the entire decade of the 1970s was entirely marginalized and dismissed as if it were some ancient stone age. (Cue Brian Lane's infamous quote about "It's prog with the fat trimmed off!")

The choices above are all the first studio albums released by these existing prog artists AFTER August 1, 1981. None will be found on this site's Top 100 Albums rankings, for reasons which are still being argued and debated to this day. Many of these have devoted followings, but at the same time, just as many detractors. So which one is your favorite?   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2024 at 17:57
Discipline doesn't make the Top 100? Wow.

I'm still going with Emerson, Lake & Powell. That's one of the first prog albums I bought after getting into Goblin, Tangerine Dream, and Rush (I wasn't even aware of the prog label back then).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2024 at 19:06
I watched MTV on its first day. Such on oddball collection of videos back then. Mostly little know early new wave and art rock. Bowie might of been the most well known that I remember. Some promotional videos made for Scary Monsters. Buggles of course had the first song aired. I recall Adam and the Ants, Wall of Voodoo, Devo. I first heard Saga on MTV with clips for Don't Be Late and Careful Where You Step.

My vote goes for King Crimson.

Edited by mathman0806 - July 31 2024 at 19:07
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Not exactly on topic but i recently discovered a video of the very first two hours played on MTV. 

Amazing that these videos were cutting edge at the time and look so dated now!






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Rush > Pink Floyd >= Yes
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Rush - Signals
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote progaardvark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2024 at 04:27
King Crimson's Discipline. I'm inside a cesium atom making gnome bubbles.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2024 at 04:40
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

King Crimson's Discipline. I'm inside a cesium atom making gnome bubbles.
Same here (and I also voted for Discipline:)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2024 at 04:41
I was going to say I like all of the albums in the poll until I started going down the list and came to King Crimson. Tongue
Anyway, here's my Top 5 list:-

1. YES - 90125
2. Asia - Asia
3. E.L.P. - Emerson, Lake & Powell
4. Mike Oldfield - Five Miles Out
5. Supertramp - Famous Last Words


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - August 01 2024 at 04:42
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Asia

Mr. Gabriel

Yes

The Tulls

Welcome to the middle of the film.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Wyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2024 at 13:13
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I watched MTV on its first day. Such on oddball collection of videos back then. Mostly little know early new wave and art rock. Bowie might of been the most well known that I remember. Some promotional videos made for Scary Monsters. Buggles of course had the first song aired. I recall Adam and the Ants, Wall of Voodoo, Devo. I first heard Saga on MTV with clips for Don't Be Late and Careful Where You Step.

My vote goes for King Crimson.

Among my very earliest memories of BOTH Saga and King Crimson was seeing MTV-broadcast concerts!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Octopus II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2024 at 13:44
Jethro Tull - The Broadsword And The Beast
Emerson, Lake & Powell - Emerson, Lake & Powell
Genesis - Abacab
Supertramp - Famous Last Words
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King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Steve Hacketrt.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2024 at 23:36
The truth is, Rush... but I'll give my vote to the Mike Oldfield, which is a great album

then, Tull come third.

The only album I've not heard here is the Saga, who have never done much for me
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Well, call it pop but my choice can't not be 90125
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2024 at 04:29
Of all the albums on the list , EL and Powell was the only attempt to bring prog back in it's original long song format. Side One was for the headphones, side two was meant to crossover to the current audience with more 'radio friendly' tunes such as Touch and Go and Love Blind. They also do the classical thing on Mars. Cozy wanted to use electronic drums but the record company resisted it. Everything was going against the grain with this album and when the band toured the USA the audiences got smaller the further west they headed. Madison Square Gardens was probably the high point of the tour and eventually a live album came out of that show. It's much better than the poorly produced album which had way too much echo on the vocals. Sadly the line up didn't continue and as soon as Palmer was free of his commitments to Asia the original line reformed and announced a festival date in Germany. That soon fell through and it was maybe 5 years before they properly reformed. In the meantime Emerson and Palmer performed at an Atlantic record celebration bash as 'Emerson and Palmer' along with Robert Berry. There also followed the excrement that was 3 to the power of 3 with said same line up.
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Voted Signals.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2024 at 04:45
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Of all the albums on the list , EL and Powell was the only attempt to bring prog back in it's original long song format.

what do you think of Mike's Taurus II 24:45 (Side 1) and Orabidoo 13:03 (Side 2)? No, Incantations it certainly ain't, but it's both a brave and quality album to release in 1982, esp after Platinum and QE2?
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Mr. Oldfield 😎
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