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    Posted: June 25 2024 at 15:37
Two great Holdsworth tunes. What is your favorite?
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I like both of course, voted Nevermore
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:01
Wicked. Fortunately I can listen to the whole album and appreciate everything as much. Makes not much sense to me to vote for one over the other: they're both excellent. I honestly cannot choose.

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I would rate them both equally, but chose Nevermore. My rotary dial wall phone is a hotspot for Sinatra's knee pads.
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"Nevermore", although it's only 8 minutes long, is a world unto itself. With Holdsworth's intro, Bruford's drums/cymbals, and Jobson's CS-80 symphonic textures, this demonstrates perfectly that a song can have "scope" and be "spacious" without being excessively long. This should win the poll easily.

"Mental Medication" is simply a chord progression to jam over and trade solos with a few really tricky parts. It's nothing to be ashamed of, and brings the performances to a rousing close, yet it's my least favorite song on the album.
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Both are great, but Nevermore just a little bit greater. 
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Love the whole album!. I got the vinyl on Sunday. 
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Nevermore Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2024 at 05:50
Hard choice. Both songs are great. I went with Mental Medication, simply because it was the first of the two that popped up in my mind.
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One of my favorite albums, every track is great. I picked this album up back in 84-85 and it was almost always a complete the listen when I dropped the needle. An all-time Top 20 album for me. Bruford, Holdsworth, Jobson and Wetton were in top form. I will go with Mental Medication today. Ask me next week and I could pick Nevermore.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2024 at 09:22
"Nevermore" from the list. But that's only because Mental Medication to me is the weakest track on UK's debut. Kind of an unfair battle, isn't it? The "In the Dead of Night" medley is imho motherfuсking spectacular, and a much more worthy contender against Nevermore in a poll like this. B)
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^The songs chosen were the two Allan mostly composed. That's why In the Dead of Night is not a choice.

Anyway, my vote goes to Mental Medication which is the highlight of the album for me. Excellent bass playing and a killer violin solo.
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I personally think that Holdsworth, though unarguably a brilliant guitar virtuoso, wasn't really a master songwriter. Yeah, he was able to compose insanely complex technical fusion passages, but his compositions lacked that "comfort" aspect which characterized Wetton-Jobson penned songs in UK. While Holdsworth's songwriting had a jazzy edge and tons of technical subversion-driven showoff moments, it wasn't as rich in the memorable hooks and overall energetic rock & roll sensibilities as the Wetton-Jobson songs. You can easily tell that by listening to Danger Money.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2024 at 10:52
^I have to disagree with your opinion of Allan's songwriting abilities. His solo albums (his best work) aren't about "showoff" moments. The way he played chords was innovative, and he wrote many ballads. He was also one of the few players who embraced guitar synthesizer technology.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2024 at 11:25
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^I have to disagree with your opinion of Allan's songwriting abilities. His solo albums (his best work) aren't about "showoff" moments. The way he played chords was innovative, and he wrote many ballads. He was also one of the few players who embraced guitar synthesizer technology.
Well, I was only considering his input in UK. :)
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Both are great. No vote.
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My vote goes to "Mental Medication."
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