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Topic: Fave Holdsworth UK tune
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Subject: Fave Holdsworth UK tune
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 15:37
Two great Holdsworth tunes. What is your favorite?



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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 15:48
I like both of course, voted Nevermore


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:01
Wicked. Fortunately I can listen to the whole album and appreciate everything as much. Makes not much sense to me to vote for one over the other: they're both excellent. I honestly cannot choose.


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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:11
I would rate them both equally, but chose Nevermore. My rotary dial wall phone is a hotspot for Sinatra's knee pads.

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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:26
"Nevermore", although it's only 8 minutes long, is a world unto itself. With Holdsworth's intro, Bruford's drums/cymbals, and Jobson's CS-80 symphonic textures, this demonstrates perfectly that a song can have "scope" and be "spacious" without being excessively long. This should win the poll easily.

"Mental Medication" is simply a chord progression to jam over and trade solos with a few really tricky parts. It's nothing to be ashamed of, and brings the performances to a rousing close, yet it's my least favorite song on the album.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 17:59
Both are great, but Nevermore just a little bit greater. 

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Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 20:14
Love the whole album!. I got the vinyl on Sunday. 


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 05:43
Nevermore Smile


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 05:50
Hard choice. Both songs are great. I went with Mental Medication, simply because it was the first of the two that popped up in my mind.


Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 08:24
One of my favorite albums, every track is great. I picked this album up back in 84-85 and it was almost always a complete the listen when I dropped the needle. An all-time Top 20 album for me. Bruford, Holdsworth, Jobson and Wetton were in top form. I will go with Mental Medication today. Ask me next week and I could pick Nevermore.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 09:22
"Nevermore" from the list. But that's only because Mental Medication to me is the weakest track on UK's debut. Kind of an unfair battle, isn't it? The "In the Dead of Night" medley is imho motherfuсking spectacular, and a much more worthy contender against Nevermore in a poll like this. B)

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 09:38
^The songs chosen were the two Allan mostly composed. That's why In the Dead of Night is not a choice.

Anyway, my vote goes to Mental Medication which is the highlight of the album for me. Excellent bass playing and a killer violin solo.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 10:26
I personally think that Holdsworth, though unarguably a brilliant guitar virtuoso, wasn't really a master songwriter. Yeah, he was able to compose insanely complex technical fusion passages, but his compositions lacked that "comfort" aspect which characterized Wetton-Jobson penned songs in UK. While Holdsworth's songwriting had a jazzy edge and tons of technical subversion-driven showoff moments, it wasn't as rich in the memorable hooks and overall energetic rock & roll sensibilities as the Wetton-Jobson songs. You can easily tell that by listening to Danger Money.

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 10:52
^I have to disagree with your opinion of Allan's songwriting abilities. His solo albums (his best work) aren't about "showoff" moments. The way he played chords was innovative, and he wrote many ballads. He was also one of the few players who embraced guitar synthesizer technology.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 11:25
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^I have to disagree with your opinion of Allan's songwriting abilities. His solo albums (his best work) aren't about "showoff" moments. The way he played chords was innovative, and he wrote many ballads. He was also one of the few players who embraced guitar synthesizer technology.
Well, I was only considering his input in UK. :)

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 27 2024 at 21:31
Both are great. No vote.


Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: September 30 2024 at 19:24
My vote goes to "Mental Medication."


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 01 2024 at 00:45
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