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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12419 |
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Two great Holdsworth tunes. What is your favorite?
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mellotronwave ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 30 2021 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 11582 |
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I like both of course, voted Nevermore
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Wicked. Fortunately I can listen to the whole album and appreciate everything as much. Makes not much sense to me to vote for one over the other: they're both excellent. I honestly cannot choose.
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52753 |
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I would rate them both equally, but chose Nevermore. My rotary dial wall phone is a hotspot for Sinatra's knee pads.
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Steve Wyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2017 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 2841 |
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"Nevermore", although it's only 8 minutes long, is a world unto itself. With Holdsworth's intro, Bruford's drums/cymbals, and Jobson's CS-80 symphonic textures, this demonstrates perfectly that a song can have "scope" and be "spacious" without being excessively long. This should win the poll easily.
"Mental Medication" is simply a chord progression to jam over and trade solos with a few really tricky parts. It's nothing to be ashamed of, and brings the performances to a rousing close, yet it's my least favorite song on the album.
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Mormegil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2010 Location: NE PA Status: Offline Points: 7726 |
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Both are great, but Nevermore just a little bit greater.
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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Love the whole album!. I got the vinyl on Sunday.
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Octopus II ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 21 2023 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 12492 |
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Nevermore
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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Hard choice. Both songs are great. I went with Mental Medication, simply because it was the first of the two that popped up in my mind.
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Big Sky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 807 |
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One of my favorite albums, every track is great. I picked this album up back in 84-85 and it was almost always a complete the listen when I dropped the needle. An all-time Top 20 album for me. Bruford, Holdsworth, Jobson and Wetton were in top form. I will go with Mental Medication today. Ask me next week and I could pick Nevermore.
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Online Points: 5721 |
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"Nevermore" from the list. But that's only because Mental Medication to me is the weakest track on UK's debut. Kind of an unfair battle, isn't it? The "In the Dead of Night" medley is imho motherfuсking spectacular, and a much more worthy contender against Nevermore in a poll like this. B)
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12419 |
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^The songs chosen were the two Allan mostly composed. That's why In the Dead of Night is not a choice.
Anyway, my vote goes to Mental Medication which is the highlight of the album for me. Excellent bass playing and a killer violin solo. |
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Online Points: 5721 |
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I personally think that Holdsworth, though unarguably a brilliant guitar virtuoso, wasn't really a master songwriter. Yeah, he was able to compose insanely complex technical fusion passages, but his compositions lacked that "comfort" aspect which characterized Wetton-Jobson penned songs in UK. While Holdsworth's songwriting had a jazzy edge and tons of technical subversion-driven showoff moments, it wasn't as rich in the memorable hooks and overall energetic rock & roll sensibilities as the Wetton-Jobson songs. You can easily tell that by listening to Danger Money.
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12419 |
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^I have to disagree with your opinion of Allan's songwriting abilities. His solo albums (his best work) aren't about "showoff" moments. The way he played chords was innovative, and he wrote many ballads. He was also one of the few players who embraced guitar synthesizer technology.
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On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29560 |
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Both are great. No vote.
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Starshiper ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 08 2024 Location: Englantic Status: Offline Points: 2434 |
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My vote goes to "Mental Medication."
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18643 |
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N e v e r m o r Ǝ
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