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Poll Question: Why most prog fans consider Metal (Especially Death ,Thrash and Black)
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    Posted: June 19 2024 at 20:30
Why most prog fans consider Metal (Especially Death ,Thrash and Black), Pop and Alternative Rock are garbage music genres?

Edited by DarksideofAbel - June 21 2024 at 15:47
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Cuz a lot of us are old ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2024 at 23:05
Nonsense. I was into metal before prog rock, roadied for local metal bands as a teen, and though I always appreciated prog, metal was my first love.   I've also always appreciated good pop-- the Police, Prince, Beatles, U2. In fact U2 was among the best live acts I've ever seen.

So your premise is incorrect and presumptuous.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2024 at 23:39
I'm going to agree because you state "most"....which is not defining a % or number. I might prefer saying " a lot".
Just look around this site, most posts about different music genres are hateful especially with pop music. I would say for metal and alternative would not be most, maybe some...

All a play in words but working within the OP post. 
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I agree, but it's not the "metal" content that especially triggers prog snobs. It's the "urban music" and EDM content. Reggaeton, dubstep, techno, deep house, DnB, grime et al.
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Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Why most prog fans consider Metal (Especially Death ,Thrash and Black), Pop and Alternative Rock are garbage music genre?

I don't think it's true or a general opinion. Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Octopus II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2024 at 00:10
I rather like old school rock/metal, Black Sabbath are a particular favourite. Smile
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Metal itself is & was considered a form of progressive rock--   Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, early Ozzy, all progressive types of rock music.   But that's been forgotten or ignored.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2024 at 01:05
^ Seems OP is concentrating on Death ,Thrash and Black metal.....not sure I would call any of those bands that type of metal. It's extremely clear I think, that most prog fans like those bands you list.
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I like some Metal, especially Symphonic and Progressive Metal, but I'm definitely not a fan of Black Metal, Death Metal or Thrash Metal, where many of the repulsive band names are in bad taste and sound like an autopsy report, and I believe, there really is a Death Metal band called Autopsy too. Dead
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr prog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2024 at 02:10
Prog related music is the only stuff that is interesting to me
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Nonsense. I was into metal before prog rock, roadied for local metal bands as a teen, and though I always appreciated prog, metal was my first love.   I've also always appreciated good pop-- the Police, Prince, Beatles, U2. In fact U2 was among the best live acts I've ever seen.

So your premise is incorrect and presumptuous.


Actually, in my case, I'd say prog came first (in 74) and metal second (76)

But there was a side of stuff I disliked back then (and I wasn't the only one) >> everything linked to disco, in which I encompassed funk (sometimes Killer funk). Though a fan of Reggae , not ditto for most punk, new wave & electro-pop.
So yeah, I guess a lot of proggers (and metallers) could be quite snooty at more commercial types of music.

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I agree, but it's not the "metal" content that especially triggers prog snobs. It's the "urban music" and EDM content. Reggaeton, dubstep, techno, deep house, DnB, grime et al.

you may have a point, but to each generation.
I'm not sure the OP was referring to yours or mine

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Metal itself is & was considered a form of progressive rock--   Sabbath, Priest, Maiden, early Ozzy, all progressive types of rock music.   But that's been forgotten or ignored.

well maybe not Ozzy in my caseWink. Either I was too old or he was too dumb with his outrageous (near-primate, IMHO) stuff. I sort of quit metal after DiAno was ousted from Maiden, but it was getting too gimmicky anyways. 

I don't think there were that many frontiers back then. I was also a blues-rock fan, however anything country-sunding was a complete tur-off to me.

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Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Why most prog fans consider Metal (Especially Death ,Thrash and Black), Pop and Alternative Rock are garbage music genre?

The question makes no sense. How do you answer "agree/disagree" to a "why" question?
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I agree with Mike. Looked strange to me too. Big smile

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I like garbure...



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mormegil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2024 at 04:46
Define "most".
What's your source?
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A lot maybe, but not most. Personally, bands like Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Black Sabbath, are among my favorite. The newer metal bands, I would say from the 80s and after, not so much, but certainly don't hate them. I just don't relate to their music very much.
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Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

Why most prog fans consider Metal (Especially Death ,Thrash and Black), Pop and Alternative Rock are garbage music genre?

Alternative Rock is Garbage - and many other bands I like too. Smile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote progaardvark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2024 at 08:16
Not sure I completely understand what's going on here, but I completely disagree that prog fans are haters of metal, pop, and alternative. There have been many conversations on this forum of non-prog and prog-adjacent genres and I think for the most part, most of us have given these genres their due respect. My favorite senate is frosted mini-wheats.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2024 at 09:29
I don't believe that "prog fans are the most music haters". Prog as a form can embrace and create fusions with any style of music. The Prog umbrella is very diverse and its relations are huge. In PA we find artists/bands that fall into pop stylings, metal, alternative... that can be described in any of those ways. David Bowie and Kate Bush are two much loved by many in PA that I would refer to as pop (or art pop), and I generally love their most popular music.

I don't interact with "Proggers" outside of this forum, and I have had some friends into some of it, so my experience is limited. My friends were into diverse music. If you look to General Music Discussions one can see the diversity of appreciation from many into Prog, and considering how diverse Prog can be, this is to be expected by me. Art Pop is a favourite designation of mine, and I love much music both considered alternative and pop that is in and out of PA.

As for metal, i tend to be more into the early classic heavy metal (before metal proper one might say), as well as stoner and doom, but there is much more extreme metal that I enjoy.
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