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Cristi
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A few bands here are not my thing, but I don't want to point them out, why would it matter?
Maybe I do not understand the purpose of this poll.
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Grumpyprogfan
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Logan
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I'm not planning on profiting from this info, at least not financially. I never made a dime from this site. It goes into my mind palace, and I use it for discussion and trying to connect and get to know people better. I don't profit from "What is your favourite?" topics either. I might turn that back on you to ask why does it matter to you that I tell you why I think it matters? And I would appreciate a response to get to know your thinking behind the question better. No pressure, of course. From a nihilist perspective, of which I sometimes have leaned towards, it doesn't matter at all, nothing really matters. Considering that everything will come to an end, when assuming it does, it all can seem and be totally futile. Everything being pointless. The exercise should or need not matter to you. If It mattered enough to me to ask in someones topic, then I would sooner phrase it as "Why is this inquiry of interest to you?" But I would not do so without trying to play along first, but I like to be sport unless it comes into conflict with other concerns, responsibilities, ethical considerations. It's rather sad and makes me feel hollow and it does all feel pointless in a way because I have been trying to express why I'm interested in having conversations about what we like and don't like, the confluences, divergences, connections and disconnections of our tastes since I started posting here. I like polls to be interactive. I don't care about the poll results, I care about reading the posts, I care about people's thoughts, I care about conversations. I care about reading and sharing details. It can be entertaining, it can be enlightening, it can make me feel closer to individuals, and it can be creative in a way when interacting and it gets me to revisit and think about music I care about. That said, much as I want to get to know how and what others think when it comes to a great many things, part of posting here is trying to understand myself better. I think that one can have positive and affable conversations about what we like, don't like, and like less, and I enjoy exploring such things with individuals. What often has mattered to me is trying to come up with approaches to poll inquiries and ideas for topics that are different from the norm. It's something of a creative exercise even if the results are mediocre (hey, I'm constrained by my less than stellar brain). One might ask, why does it matter when it comes to a poll which asks, "Which is your favourite?" I was hoping to have some friendly and informative back and forth discussion with people about what they least connect with from the list. And maybe, just maybe, which is a reason why I hoped for specifics on what people know from the acts, we might find something that might appeal to them. I like threads and polls that feel like a group effort commonly. And threads are only as good as the sum total of the parts (i.e. the posts). If we don't find anything to be appreciated from the lists, that's okay too, but I like topics that help me feel like I'm getting to know people better and it can help me to build empathy. And I know that I like to evaluate and re-evaluate music, and hope that I can find something that appeals even in bands that I don't generally like. Progressive music listeners often try to keep an open-ear and an open-mind. By the way, why I am at PA generally boils down to my teen years. My group of friends and I would share music with each other, experience it and talk about it.. My rose-tinted memory of those times is magical. While I have wanted to recapture that spirit of discovery and discussion at PA, and I have with many people here, with some, especially of the more cynical variety, there will always be too much of a disconnect for us to fall into that kind of warm and encouraging, sympathetic and encouraging being a key word for what matters to me, circle. If I could find try-to-be positive open-minded warm and tolerant people with various similar music interests locally, I would love to meet. Well, I say that, but, while you would not know if you met me, I have bad social anxiety and a part of me dislikes being in the company of others (I can only take being around people in doses as it exhausts this introvert). That said, despite being introverted and non-sociable, I still care about trying to connect with people from an emotional and musical angle, and I find such inquiries have helped with bonding with some even if those perceptions of bonding are ultimately very superficial and just perceptions. Others just seems to have a very different approach and mindset to mine and I think I will never really find a sense of synchronicity with and we will always have to question the intent of each other instead of accepting and enjoying the ride, so to speak. As for what I'm going to do with this information, store it in my mind. What do people commonly do with the information from polls and discussions? If you think there is some nefarious ulterior motive, you got me all wrong. No one should feel like they have to participate in such polls, and I do think that if one does not appreciate such things or want to play along, it's usually best just to ignore them and leave them to those who do. That said, maybe you were really interested to understand my motivation (it matters to you to ask). It's lot of effort to explain and it might not make sense to another. Vive la difference, I guess, to each his or own interests and sense of what matters to them. Part of the perhaps sad or lame enjoyment for me is coming up with list, and trying to think through an idea and present it in the opening post (a minor intellectual exercise). I hope my ideas are out of the box, different from the norm often. To me that is a creative exercise. but the real joy comes with my interactions with people who also seem to appreciate the exercise. That is gratifying to me. I hope some enjoy this, and if just one person enjoyed the exercise (other than me), and maybe had some pleasant conversation, I'm at least happy with those results. Edited by Logan - May 29 2024 at 11:35 |
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Lewian
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Guys! Everybody is free not to take part. What harm can be done?
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Grumpyprogfan
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^Didn't mean to destroy your day, Greg.
If I'm honest, your polls are kind of similar, with feedback from the usual folks. So we know their tastes by now. But, I couldn't do better so carry on. |
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Logan
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^ You didn't destroy my day. It just took a chunk out of my morning to try to explain where I was coming from, and it did confuse me and maybe me feel rather disconsolate waking up to it. I feel we have had a lot of disconnection and misunderstandings and I'm not sure why. I do appreciate sincere explorations of concepts and ideas. I do try to be thorough in response as I appreciate that from others as long as it is cordial.
I'm still unclear on the reasoning behind your questions and as I took the time to answer the questions, I had hoped some effort would be reciprocated. I get what you are saying about knowing my tastes by now, and I know I often cover the usual suspects, but that did not seem to be what your or Cristi's concern was about. Anyway, I think that is time to step away from PA as I guess I am just going though the motions by now. I know my material can be samey, and I'm not the only one, but if my approach has stagnated enough, then I need other creative avenues. Hopefully others will have new material to talk about that does not get discussed much and new approaches to making topics (so much has been done again and again, and it is not easy to be original both in material and approach). A forum needs new blood, new ideas, new points of interest, and new passions to continue to prosper. By the way, this list came from a longer list and it is very same-old, same old when it comes to my tastes in PA (most of what I listen to is not in PA). Amon Düül II Anna Sjalv Tredje Area Art Zoyd Black Country, New Road black midi Brave New World Bubu Camberwell Now Can Cardiacs Ciśnienie Coil Comus Cos Current 93 Dead Can Dance Dom Elephant9 Eskaton Family Faust Geinoh Yamashirogumi Gentle Giant Goblin Godspeed You! Black Emperor Gong Guapo Heldon Hellebore Henry Cow Jan Dukes de Grey Kayo Dot Kikagaku Moyo King Crimson King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard Kosmischer Läufer Magma Matching Mole Message Mr. Bungle National Health North Sea Radio Orchestra Pentangle Picchio dal Pozzo Popol Vuh Pram Radiohead The Residents Secret Chiefs 3 Shub-Niggurath Sigur Rós The Smile Soft Machine Spirogyra Squid Swans Talk Talk Tangerine Dream Thinking Plague This Heat Tortoise Univers Zero Van der Graaf Generator |
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TheGazzardian
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I don't think you should leave, I found this topic entertaining enough. Aren't many places to talk about artists like in your lists.
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Cristi
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Do not step away, nobody is saying you have to do that. It's my bad, it's me who did not understand what's going on in this thread.
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Logan
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^ Okay then, I probably should have spent more time writing a more descriptive original post to clarify my intent and expectations. I know no one is saying I have to do that, but I think I need to do other creative things. I used to like to write fiction, maybe I could try that again. Or maybe I could work more and not just count myself lucky that my engineer wife has a good six figure income, and a good figure to boot. I've been way luckier and well taken care of than I deserve.
I appreciate it. And I guess that is out of the ordinary enough that it led to some questioning of intent (I mention because Will mentioned the same old aspect). I do wish I could be more "understood" when it comes to intent often. I could be more articulate, but often it does not occur to me that I would need to be. There should be room for lots of variety and approaches here and I really would like to see more people coming up with names that has not been covered much before and with new approaches to making polls and topics. I do think some who have taken issue with my topics might be be fine with the 1000th "Yes vs. Genesis, which do you prefer?" kind of poll. Sometimes I make topics because there is a such a lull in the forum when it comes to new topics and I hope to help liven the place up a bit. Even with those who don't appreciate my topics, question them or stay away from them, I hope I sometimes post something in others topics that is appreciated. Edited by Logan - May 29 2024 at 14:30 |
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Grumpyprogfan
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^Your posts are always appreciated, except when you called "Romantic Warrior" d*gsh*t.
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Logan
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Well, I was just upset because I had just stepped in it. Was not the first time I had to clean the Romantic Warrior from the soles of my shoes. I don't recall being that harsh. It does ring a bell, a bell that sounds like a reverberating DUNG!!! (What's brown and sounds like a bell? DUNGGGG!!!) I have mentioned not liking that album -- not that I have listened to it for many years. I much preferred Hymn to the Seventh Galaxy. Now that is a darned fine album. Edited by Logan - May 29 2024 at 15:17 |
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BrufordFreak
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There are several on this list that I have never been able to connect with, much as I've tried:
Can Cardiacs Faust Godspeed You! Black Emperor Black Country, New Road |
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Black Country, New Road - I thought they would eventually click with me, but relistenings only had me going from lukewarm to finding them insufferable. Not really for the musical content, but the vocals and lyrics gets in the way of my enjoyment. I'm actually annoyed. Maybe my experience of listening to them is similar to the music of Radiohead for those who react negatively to Thom Yorke's voice? Anyway, I went optimistically into checking out BC,NR's live album as I knew the guy on vocals had quit the band, but it somehow made me feel the same way. Actually I may even have liked it less. Outside of The Cardiacs, a band I suppose I just don't get, and Current93, a band I don't really know that much about - I love the rest of the bands here. |
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progaardvark
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Greg, by all means don't leave. I have always found your posts engaging and entertaining, plus a way for me to discover more music. There are quite a few bands you and I both like. I don't always contribute to your posts mostly because of time commitments that don't allow me enough time to interact at this conversational level. My visits to the forum tend to be often, but usually brief. Maybe in five or so years after I retire, I can spend more time conversing on a larger scale, provided this site is still here.
Something inside me told me I should respond to the above paragraph because we're probably very close on the personality type scale. I, too, have social anxiety. I don't like crowds. I'm only comfortable in small groups where I don't have to interact a lot. Being around people for a long time exhausts me. I always looked forward to the end of the work day where I could be alone and re-center myself. When I have to be in a large group, I like to blend in the background and find escape routes so that I can discretely disappear from the group when it seemed appropriate to do so. I can play along and look outgoing when I need to, but I find the exercise tiring. My group of friends has always been small, but close-knit, and I tended to hang out with more "geeky" people that were intellectually interesting and also introverts. People wouldn't know this when they met me, but I'm awkwardly shy. I have gotten better at not showing it. I also don't "read" people well and don't pick up on subtle signals or whatever you want to call them. Like you, I'm fortunate to have a wonderful wife and one that understands my introversion. She carries some of my traits in that both of us always look for ways at finding early exits from larger social gatherings. We're together all the time. I feel strongly that we were meant to be together and I consider myself extremely lucky to have her in my life. Prior to our fortunate meeting, I seemed to keep attracting stalkers. Well, maybe not legally stalkers, but obsessive "secret admirer" types. Three different times: one in junior high, one in college, and one after college. The latter one lasted for around 10 years. Being the kind of introvert I am, these were especially difficult for me to deal with. I still don't understand how I attracted these people to me. I believe my wife scared away the last one, even though we were just friends at the time. I don't have any data to support this, but anecdotal evidence seems to suggest (at least to me) that many people that like the music we all share in common here have a tendency of leaning towards being introverts. Some more than others. I'm not saying that extroverts don't also like prog, just that the tendency seems to lean more to the introvert part of the scale. I could be wrong. Perceptions vary. Just know that you're not alone. I'm sure there are others here than can relate to this. Also, sorry for the digression away from the main topic.
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Psychedelic Paul
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I made the mistake of not reading through the intro properly and voted for Tangerine Dream (most liked) instead of Current 93 (least liked).
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Current 93 is the least known by me. I can at least "hear" a track by the all the other artists in my head. I am really not familiar enough with the Residents to consider them. A couple I haven't listened to in a quite while. I will follow up later. I need to think about it.
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I remember being pulled up on here once for calling them 'The' Cardiacs... I'm pleased someone else has too..
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Squid is the only band from the list I've never heard music from (I think). I appreciate a good deal from the others and there is quite a bunch of bands on this list that I like quite a lot. But other than their first two albums, Tangerine Dream generally bore the hell out of me, so they get my vote (and yes, I listened to most of their 70s and 80s works, but I'm not even trying anymore...).
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Greg, it is entirely your prerogative to step away from the forums if they are getting too stressful for you but this community would certainly not be the same without your enthusiasm and curiosity and just your general good guy energy. I always enjoy reading your opinions and voting in your threads even if my new job hasn't left me with as much time to actively engage with them as in the past.
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