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Lumenko 
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Family's "Music in a Doll's House" (1968) is the first fully fledged progressive rock album ever released.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 08:30 |
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Close to it. As much as I like it there are no long instrumental sections, no long songs, no complexity and not much in the way of time changes (except on three x time). If those things I mentioned don't matter then I would say maybe DOFP is.
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 08:59 |
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About Pink Floyd's Animals: and Sheep is not that good of a song
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:07 |
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What's wrong with Sheep?!  Pigs is my least favorite of the three, and Sheep is superb.
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:25 |
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Just a bit of a drab in my opinion, lacks that energy of the other two. It has energy, but not that same energy
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:26 |
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Strange you say that because Sheep is more energetic than Pigs.
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:29 |
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For me, Pigs perfectly encapsulates the feel of the album and has a killer guitar solo (which is a bonus)
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
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Logan
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:49 |
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Adapting the name is more dynamic than static. It's quite electrifying either way. Incidentally, and apologies for any silliness, were tennis player Steffi Graf to guest with Van der Graaf Generator, they could call that project Steffi Graaf Generator. I think the album title could reference one of my favourite VdGG tunes "White Hammer" by calling itself The White Slammer. For a comment more appropriate to the spirit I see in this thread: I think that Bubu's Anabalas is a much more accomplished and satisfying three track album than Yes' Close to the Edge. In fact, although I like title track very much, I'm not that keen on the album Close to the Edge and would give it three stars. |
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richardh
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:58 |
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Re TD I would say the 80's (up to 1986) but then there are some great albums released in the 00's as well. We agree re KC then! |
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:07 |
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Let's see...
More is one of my favorite Pink Floyd albums. Awake is my favorite Dream Theater album. Genesis - ATTW3 is a great album, a favorite of mine. Going for the One is an overrated mess of an album. I enjoy Fates Warning more than Dream Theater these days. David Gilmour's second album About Face is underappreciated, deserves better.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:28 |
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Cristi, if you think GFTO is a messy album then what do you think of Tormato? Even messier? ;)
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Hrychu
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:29 |
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This is probably the boldest hot take I've ever seen on this forum!
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:30 |
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True.
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:44 |
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Of the classic ELP albums (those first 5) Trilogy is the worst
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
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If prog was a nut it would be Walnut.
If prog was a color it would be Purple. If prog was a fish it would be Halibut. If prog was a beer it would be a Double IPA. If prog was a vegetable it would be Brussel Sprouts. |
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:56 |
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For some bizarre reason I've always found it a more satisfying listen and less rambling than The Wall.
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Frank Zappa is the greatest progressive genius to hit rock music.
The Lamb is Genesis’ best album. The Strawberry Alarm Clock was as progressive a band as there was in their time. Steve Hackett has been history’s most consistently high quality representative/proponent of progressive rock music. Mother Focus is a great Focus album. Novella is my favorite Renaissance album. Storia di un minuto is not as good as people make it out to be. Magma are even more impressive live/in concert. Wobbler is a retro prog band. Prog rock of the 21st Century may not be as innovative or “fresh” as musics of the “classic era” (1970s) but I think it is better than that of the 1970s. Miles Davis was never a progressive rock artist, his genius was that he surrounded himself with younger, more experimental/cutting edge artists who had more rock proclivities/tendencies/interests. |
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Frets N Worries
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 11:04 |
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As a love of The Wall and hater of the Final Cut, define 'Less Rambling' Granted, The Wall is by no means perfect. Stuff like 'Vera' and 'Bring the Boys Back Home' could've easily been trimmed.
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 11:20 |
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The Big 6 of Prog should be:
1) Yes 2) Genesis 3) Pink Floyd 4) ELP 5) Rush 6) Kansas They are the best known Prog bands by the general public that listens to classic rock, who all had success releasing actual Prog albums that went on to be certified either Gold, Platinum or Multi-Platinum while headlining tours and filling arenas. King Crimson was ground breaking, but they did not come close to the above bands success. Tull had the success but, I don't think was as Proggy as the above bands. That's my hot take. |
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Cristi
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Posted: November 28 2023 at 11:22 |
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Maybe, but the highs on The Wall are better than the highs on TFC.
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