Your Prog Rock Hot Takes
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Topic: Your Prog Rock Hot Takes
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Subject: Your Prog Rock Hot Takes
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 08:59
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Takes that most people wouldn't agree with. Some of mine: Tales is the Best Yes Album Shine On > Echoes Time and a Word > The Yes Album A Momentary Lapse of Reason is a great record Think of Me with Kindness is the best song Gentle Giant ever did Mike Oldfield's Incantations is a 10/10 Record 'It' is a great album closer Granted, most of these aren't super hot, but I'm sure many of you have some! (I'm looking at you Paul with your lack of VDGG love!)
------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 09:04
I Love both of VDGG's 1970 albums and they're both in my CD collection too.   1970: Van der Graaf Generator - The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other (Eclectic Prog) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNuUilJm-b2csXdNoaBVzfCvJFuEhYIfo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNuUilJm-b2csXdNoaBVzfCvJFuEhYIfo 1970: Van der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am the Only One (Eclectic Prog) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJ5GqrKTN-Elb_BhgPje8Seu8Xr0n4T3w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJ5GqrKTN-Elb_BhgPje8Seu8Xr0n4T3w |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 09:06
And the rest of them?  ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Psychedelic Paul wrote:Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 09:08
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I've had the same 'hot takes' for years now....Mike Oldfields music is boring and trite, and Peter Hammill cant carry a tune but then much of VDGG music is not that tuneful.  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 09:10
The rest of them I can manage without and I wouldn't buy Pawn Hearts even if it was in a charity shop bargain bin.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 11:21
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The Missing Piece by Gentle Giant is superb. Mike Portnoy should not return to Dream Theater. Allan Holdsworth's solo material is better than his work with other bands/artists. Close to the Edge is not the best prog rock album. Todd Rundgren is one of America's greatest composers. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 11:36
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Baker St. Muse is one of Jethro Tull best songs. Steve Hackett's music is better than Genesis. King Crimson is the ultimate progressive band.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 11:45
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^There are people who don't like Baker St. Muse??!?! ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 11:53
He's not saying people don't like the song, just that he thinks it's one of their best.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 12:05
I know, I just thought it was widely considered one of their best, didn't know that was a hot take ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 12:20
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Triumvirat are the greatest prog rock band. The best thing about them is their unique sound. The Missing Piece is a fantastic album by Gentle Giant. No More Love is the best album by Wallenstein, better than what came before or after it by the band.
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Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 12:38
Beat me to the punch on Triumvirat...Jurgen Fritz's solo's are some of the best of the classic Prog rock era...
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 13:22
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IMHO: Tales is the second best Yes album, after Relayer. Both are 10/10. Momentary Lapse of Reason is a good album, but not a great one. Incantations is indeed 10/10. 'It' is a great closer but only if you pay attention to the lyrics of the whole story arc. Otherwise, it is merely a good closer. Although we all have our favorite songs on the album, you have to take it as a whole to understand what is going on.  ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 13:28
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^I agree about 'It' and Incantations Another hot take, The Best song from TFTO is 'The Remembering' ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 13:37
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In the wake of poseidon is more interesting than the one before it. Larks tongues is the best King Crimson album. Yes lost their way after Jon Anderson left the band in 2004. There never really was a prog resurgence (at least not a major one).
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Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 13:42
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Another… Ambrosia’s “Somewhere I Never Traveled” is a more diverse,
progressive album than their first (which was a pretty great album) ... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 14:11
I agree, I don't think this is a hot take.
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 14:11
Is ... is that a hot take? Fly from Here was ok but certainly no Drama 2. And despite trying them all a few times, I cannot bring to mind anything from any album after.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 14:30
I'm not even sure what a Hot Take is, but one thing I do know is I much prefer Fly from Here over Drama.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 14:46
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Hot Take = Unpopular Opinion ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 15:17
Oh, okay. I have no shortage of unpopular opinions when it comes to the music of YES and Van der Graaf Generator.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 15:19
^Keep em coming  ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 15:35
Unpopular opinion: Mirror to the Sky is the best YES album. Popular opinion: Open Your Eyes is the worst YES album.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 15:50
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My favorite PFM song is a synth pop track from 1984. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 15:54
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Minstrel in the Gallery is Tull's Best Album ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Joel Julian Music
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:06
^^ Relayer is my favourite but I think Tales is a strong contender. I also prefer Time and a Word to the Yes Album. I haven't listened to Echoes in a long time, but I would pick Shine over it from memory. Think of Me with Kindness is a wonderful song - the best? Not for me. My hottest takes off the top of my head: - I hope this isn't blasphemy but IQ and Galahad don't appeal to me (Not had an exhaustive listen, but I do keep dipping back in) - Folklore is overrated as a BBT album - Yessongs version of Fragile tracks >>>>> Fragile - I prefer Phil Collins era Genesis (with the exception of Selling England), but I prefer Peter Gabriel solo to Collins solo - Flower Kings' Flower Power should be one disc long and it should be called Garden of Dreams - Falling into Infinity >>> Six Degrees and Octavarium ------------- https://vamoosery.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp https://open.spotify.com/artist/0xMy7EHlvs3FgcRiBR99DB?si=-oZvC34MQhGt3CMCuFMXgg" rel="nofollow - Spotify |
Posted By: Joel Julian Music
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:07
Agree! I love it. ------------- https://vamoosery.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp https://open.spotify.com/artist/0xMy7EHlvs3FgcRiBR99DB?si=-oZvC34MQhGt3CMCuFMXgg" rel="nofollow - Spotify |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:17
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Subterranea is a mid-tier album. Too Long. Could've used some editing ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:20
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Six Wives Of Henry VIII is the best instrumental prog album Supertramp were a full on prog band Tangerine Dream made better albums after the 70's Eloy were the best prog band between 1973 and 1982 'Clone bands' is not a thing Alternative music is not prog King Crimson didn't invent prog rock |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:29
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Not sure how unpopular this is, but Heavy Horses > Songs from the Wood ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:30
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Hot take, or at least pretty warm: Magma never bettered its 1970 debut, and it's the peak of Magma. But MDK is more quotable (as a cold take). Cool take: Had Christian Vander guested on an album with Peter Hammill and friends, Vander Graaf Generator would have been a cool name. Luke-warm take: Had Christian Vander teamed up on a film with Mark Hamill as his uncle Peter Hammill's brother, Darth Vander, it would have been cool. Darth Vander: "Luke, Kobaïa is de Hündïn, kreühn köhrmahn iss de hündïn..." Luke Skywalker: "Noooooooooo!" |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:37
both are very highly rated in the Tull canon I'm waiting for someone to say War Child is their best album
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 16:42
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^Oh no, I STRONGLY dislike that album. Bored me to tears. Same with The Final Cut (Floyd's worst album by a MILE) ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 17:01
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^War Child is a great album! IQ gets too much praise, and Peter Nicholls singing is like fingernails on a chalkboard. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 17:05
| It's okay to be passionate for a band (too much praise is never a bad thing) |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 17:40
No, King Crimson didn't invent prog because no one band or artist did. It's only a clone band if a band sets out to try to sound as much as a band as possible. I think Unifaun might be the only band who qualifies in that regard (as a Genesis clone although I never actually heard them). What was the best decade for TD then? The 80s? I won't comment on the others.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 18:01
Comment received, the Eagles are one of the greatest bands of all time. And never made a bad song (not Prog, even they had a couple proggy moments here and there 'Journey of the Sorcerer') In terms of Prog.. Starless and Buble Black over LTIA, and Islands over Lizard ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 19:17
I've seen some comments from some fans saying it lacks inspiration. To me, it's a great piece of music, full of inspiration and exciting.
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Posted By: Hugh Manatee
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 19:31
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Everyone should have the same taste in music as me. ------------- I should have been a pair of ragged claws Scuttling across the floors of uncertain seas |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 21:09
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Desolation Rose is The Flower Kings' best album. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 23:10
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Well... see... I think Rush get more credit than they deserve in the prog acolyte circle - it's nothing but washed metal production and relentless riffage; when they tried to prog they sounded trite and uninspired. Thanks to Rush, the following decades of 'prog' metal became 'prog' by numbers; where's the prog if everything sounds the same?! I don't deny any of them being superb musicians, but technicality doesn't imply originality or evocativeness.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 27 2023 at 23:19
| For me, I rather dislike Gabriel as a singer, and I prefer Phil Collin singing. I'm not fond of John Wetton singing either. I prefer the drumming of Chris Maitland in Coma Divine than that of Gavin Harrison in all his Porcupine Tree albums. I like The Division Bell better than Dark Side of the Moon. I think Roger Waters is a good singer. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 00:07
Perhaps. Maybe I'm biased but I think the spelling of "Van der Graaf Generator" is more appealing than the correct spelling "Van de Graaff Generator". ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 00:25
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I considered the username ChristianVanderGraaf for this forum actually. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 00:26
That is not the correct spelling
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 00:38
I disagree about Rush being "trite and uninspired". Constantly?! I don't think so. They have some albums more inspired and creative than others, like any other band, but "trite"? No way. Also, Rush was not the only inspiration for what would become progressive metal. Even in progressive metal, there is a diversity, everything sounding the same is an exaggeration.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 00:55
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 01:11
| Just because they use vintage instruments doesn't mean Wobbler is that amazing (they're alright). |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 01:47
I love Wobbler because of their arrangements, songwriting, passionate vocals, and incredible instrumental performance. :P The fact they use vintage instruments is something I don't care about at all tbh. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 03:52
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The ConstruKction of Light is King Crimson's best album. The neighboring solar system is complaining about the smell. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 03:54
That is a unique opinion.
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:01
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'The Final Cut is a better album than 'The Wall'. ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:03
better how?
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Posted By: Lumenko
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:08
| King Crimson's debut album is actually their best. Nothing that King Crimson recorded later surpassed Greg Lake's wonderful singing and Peter Sinfield's surrealistic fantasy. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:15
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A is Jethro Tull's best album. I have been reported for having a loaded diaper and I'm full of carbohydrates. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:15
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Not only Discipline but also Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair are excellent albums and actually better than the debut (ignoring for the moment its historical impact and innovation factor - I can't really criticise that album but I'm a very big fan of the early 80s trilogy). |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:18
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Stand Up and Heavy Horses are the two JTull albums I've listened to the most.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:19
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Van Der Graaf Geberator deserve to be in the 'Big Six of Prog' more than Rush ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:27
Rush is not in the so called big 6 of prog.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:27
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^Oh really? Good! ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:28
Either way, they deserve to be in there ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:54
At least it's shorter ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 04:59
| Modern prog is better than 70's prog. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 05:05
Or maybe we should stop classifying bands like that, or in tiers etc. Just like the big 4 of thrash, it's irrelevant, does not help in any way. Also the "big" here means popularity.
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 05:20
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'Love Beach' is a great album, and the cover artwork is amazing!
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Posted By: Lumenko
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 05:27
| Dream Theater is the greatest progressive act in American music history and the only American prog band on par with the British "Big Four". |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 05:32
British Big 4? What's that? Greatest compared to which bands? Also what criteria do you have in mind for such a statement? I love some DT, but "the greatest progressive act in American music history" ?!
 I don't know about that... |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 05:35
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^Happy the Man over DT ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 05:37
there's also Kansas, and a lot of JRF.
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Posted By: Lumenko
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 05:56
| Contemporary Scandinavian progressive music is extremely overrated. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 06:39
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Jeff Lynne's sunglasses are a portal into a world where beans talk and buildings are made out of fruit. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 06:53
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Your Prog Hot Takes thread is a meaningful depository of intellectual credibility. (That's how we play this game...right?) ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 06:56
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^It seems so, either way, it's fun to see what others think about something you may like ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 06:57
Nothing compares to Bono's sunglasses though. |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 07:06
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Never understood the hate for U2, i love em ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 07:13
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Giger Lenz Marron are the best jazz rock group from the 70s. Genesis album Trespass is their greatest work; even better than what came after it by the band. Former Dzyan and GLM guitarist the late Eddy Marron was enormously under-rated, and did not get the acclaim he deserved. Eloy's best album was Inside. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 07:14
You need to develop a bit why you think so. I don't see it how it's "extremely overrated". I don't think it's even overrated.
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Posted By: Lumenko
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 07:26
| Porcupine Tree is not prog but alt.rock band. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 07:41
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H.R. Giger's Brain Salad Surgery album cover is a self portrait. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 08:18
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Posted By: Lumenko
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 08:19
| Family's "Music in a Doll's House" (1968) is the first fully fledged progressive rock album ever released. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 08:30
Close to it. As much as I like it there are no long instrumental sections, no long songs, no complexity and not much in the way of time changes (except on three x time). If those things I mentioned don't matter then I would say maybe DOFP is.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 08:59
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About Pink Floyd's Animals: and Sheep is not that good of a song ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:07
What's wrong with Sheep?! Pigs is my least favorite of the three, and Sheep is superb.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:25
Just a bit of a drab in my opinion, lacks that energy of the other two. It has energy, but not that same energy ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:26
Strange you say that because Sheep is more energetic than Pigs.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:29
For me, Pigs perfectly encapsulates the feel of the album and has a killer guitar solo (which is a bonus) ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:49
Adapting the name is more dynamic than static. It's quite electrifying either way. Incidentally, and apologies for any silliness, were tennis player Steffi Graf to guest with Van der Graaf Generator, they could call that project Steffi Graaf Generator. I think the album title could reference one of my favourite VdGG tunes "White Hammer" by calling itself The White Slammer. For a comment more appropriate to the spirit I see in this thread: I think that Bubu's Anabalas is a much more accomplished and satisfying three track album than Yes' Close to the Edge. In fact, although I like title track very much, I'm not that keen on the album Close to the Edge and would give it three stars. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 09:58
Re TD I would say the 80's (up to 1986) but then there are some great albums released in the 00's as well. We agree re KC then! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:07
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Let's see... More is one of my favorite Pink Floyd albums. Awake is my favorite Dream Theater album. Genesis - ATTW3 is a great album, a favorite of mine. Going for the One is an overrated mess of an album. I enjoy Fates Warning more than Dream Theater these days. David Gilmour's second album About Face is underappreciated, deserves better.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:28
| Cristi, if you think GFTO is a messy album then what do you think of Tormato? Even messier? ;) |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:29
This is probably the boldest hot take I've ever seen on this forum! ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:30
True.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:44
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Of the classic ELP albums (those first 5) Trilogy is the worst ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:54
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If prog was a nut it would be Walnut. If prog was a color it would be Purple. If prog was a fish it would be Halibut. If prog was a beer it would be a Double IPA. If prog was a vegetable it would be Brussel Sprouts. |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 10:56
For some bizarre reason I've always found it a more satisfying listen and less rambling than The Wall. ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 11:03
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Frank Zappa is the greatest progressive genius to hit rock music. The Lamb is Genesis’ best album. The Strawberry Alarm Clock was as progressive a band as there was in their time. Steve Hackett has been history’s most consistently high quality representative/proponent of progressive rock music. Mother Focus is a great Focus album. Novella is my favorite Renaissance album. Storia di un minuto is not as good as people make it out to be. Magma are even more impressive live/in concert. Wobbler is a retro prog band. Prog rock of the 21st Century may not be as innovative or “fresh” as musics of the “classic era” (1970s) but I think it is better than that of the 1970s. Miles Davis was never a progressive rock artist, his genius was that he surrounded himself with younger, more experimental/cutting edge artists who had more rock proclivities/tendencies/interests. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 11:04
As a love of The Wall and hater of the Final Cut, define 'Less Rambling' Granted, The Wall is by no means perfect. Stuff like 'Vera' and 'Bring the Boys Back Home' could've easily been trimmed. ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 11:20
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The Big 6 of Prog should be: 1) Yes 2) Genesis 3) Pink Floyd 4) ELP 5) Rush 6) Kansas They are the best known Prog bands by the general public that listens to classic rock, who all had success releasing actual Prog albums that went on to be certified either Gold, Platinum or Multi-Platinum while headlining tours and filling arenas. King Crimson was ground breaking, but they did not come close to the above bands success. Tull had the success but, I don't think was as Proggy as the above bands. That's my hot take. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2023 at 11:22
Maybe, but the highs on The Wall are better than the highs on TFC.
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